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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:15 PM Original message |
Climate change could lead to global food crisis, scientists warn |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's happened before. |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. This was DESIGNED by the Globalist...'Controlling Food Production' |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. The operative word is not "could" but "is" leading to global food crisis |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Nonsense |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Many crops are failing due to extreme heat and drought. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. There is always drought somewhernce |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. For once, I agree with you. For some reason, someone's pushing |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The link though - they're "reviewing" their stats & methods. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. But utilization is ever-increasing - stock-to-use is at all-time low: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. stocks have been drawn down because of policy changes |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. "Surging utilization is likely to absorb most of the anticipated gain in world 2007 production" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
56. What is the source of this surging utilization? n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:57 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. China: wheat |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Actually, perfect sense |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Need to be careful |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I know republicon homelanders like Limbaugh & allied propagandists hate fact-based reality |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If you like facts |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Here's the most recent pronouncement from the UN - global climate IS a factor |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. How do you explain a record harvest then? |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Global warming changes the distribution of precipitation, leading to mega-droughts and monsoons... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Where is your evidence? |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Happy facts about desertification: |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Nice try |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You're suggesting global warming will improve the situation? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yes |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Here's what the UN Convention to Combat Desertification says: |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Shifting productive lands towards the poles? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Fair enough |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
58. There are numerous reasons yields have increased a small degree |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 05:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I moused around that website and their data |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. From 2006 FAO report: |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "You are so, RIGHT. Climate change is just a lib-rul Apocalyptic fantasy. Smirk." - Rush Limbaugh |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Why would you doubt that climate change will cause crop failures? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I don't doubt it |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. See my post #27. n/t |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Except that soils aren't uniformly fertile across the planet |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Indeed, and the warming itself is probably bad for most crops: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Your evidence? As opposed to the evidence from literally thousands of people smarter than you? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. He's right though. Last year's harvests were big. Why the |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Wrong. It's a combination of factors. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Your document is 5 years old |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. yes, i remember the world-wide famine of '03. n/t |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not just climate change, but oil and natural gas prices too. |
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khaos (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. ..and neofeudalism is born |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is a Very Big Deal |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. May lead??? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. Yeah, heck, there are a lot more people to feed than there used to be too ... nt |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
21. k & r |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. By 2050, US will no longer be able to meet our own demand for wheat |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Predicting yields in 2050 |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. According to the World Wildlife Fund, by 2050 all rain forests will be gone |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I'm not sure, but I think the really suckiest part of that is that all the |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes, watching beloved species go extinct at an accelerating rate will be very hard... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I find that to be the suckiest part too |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Those are heartbreakingly beautiful photos, Lorien |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Notice as the patriarchy has pummeled the earth for resources that . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. Pollution is also working against us as Global Warming becomes .... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. That's a huge "no shit Sherlock". n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
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TriggerGal (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
59. Don't complain about it ... DO something about it ... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
63. Price of oil has a lot to do with the global food crises also. |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. It has everything to do with it...and the WTO free trade structure |
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stcfarms (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
67. Food crisis |
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