McCain erases Obama 10-point national lead

[FreeStateDemocrat]

Source: AP/MSNBC


Poll: Presumptive GOP nominee now tied with both Democratic contenders
updated 2:04 p.m. ET, Thurs., April. 10, 2008

WASHINGTON - Republican Sen. John McCain has erased Sen. Barack Obama's 10-point advantage in a head-to-head matchup, leaving him essentially tied with both Democratic candidates in an Associated Press-Ipsos national poll released Thursday.

The survey showed the extended Democratic primary campaign creating divisions among supporters of Obama and rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and suggests a tight race for the presidency in November no matter which Democrat becomes the nominee.

McCain is benefiting from a bounce since he clinched the GOP nomination a month ago. The four-term Arizona senator has moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates, particularly Obama.

An AP-Ipsos poll taken in late February had Obama leading McCain 51-41 percent. The current survey, conducted April 7-9, had them at 45 percent each. McCain leads Obama among men, whites, Southerners, married women and independents.

Clinton led McCain, 48-43 percent, in February. The latest survey showed the New York senator with 48 percent support to McCain's 45 percent. Factoring in the poll's margin of error of 3.1 percentage points, Clinton and McCain are statistically tied.







Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24051361

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Paging Al Gore!

[Squatch]

1. ...

[Nitrogenica]

2. We haven't even begun to dismantle the McCain campaign.

[fascisthunter]

3. sure he did

[smiley_glad_hands]

4. Storyline for another "close" GE: Dems lost because they took too long.

She needs to drop out now. WTF lets just play right into the repugs hands. She can't win, why linger? She is only hurting the party and the eventual nominee.

[Squatch]

McCain is campaigning to be the next POTUS

Obama and Clinton are campaigning to be the next Democratic nominee.

A number of my military friends, who had previously expressed interest in Obama, are starting to say "fuck it" and are going to go with McCain.

[smiley_glad_hands]

7. A number of my military friends were never for Hill or McSame.

Hilliary is paving the way for another 4 years of W. She can't win, why linger other than help mcsame?

[PaDem]

12. it's about her, and not the country..........

hard to believe there are many that don't see it.

[barb162]

24. Is Obama's campaign all about him?

It's hard to believe so many people don't see it. He's one arrogant dude.

[merwin]

13. Yes, blame it on Hillary.

[xioaping]

16. Yes, blame it on Hillary

I agree with you.

[natrat]

17. hillary is a crook if one hasn't noticed by now

[barb162]

21. Ridiculous. n/t

[barb162]

20. Many, many primary races take a long time. This is nothing unusual at all.

If you're so concerned about time, tell Obama to drop out for the good of the party.

[PSPS]

5. Polls this early are meaningless

However, it's funny to see the MSM spin this as a "tie" simply because McSame lags by a value "within the margin of error." Had it been the other way around, the headline would read "McCain Leads in Polls!!!!11!!"

But the MSM will fabricate anything they have to in order to make this a horse race for two reasons:

1. They manufacture interest, thus getting more money for advertising.

2. They can sell more political ads to the campaigns ("You better make that million dollar ad buy because your competition is pulling ahead!!11!!"). Political advertising is the best for the MSM because it's all paid for in cash in advance.

[bemildred]

8. Not only that, you can say whatever you like without fear of being corrected by events. nt

[xioaping]

18. But delagate counts are not.

Clinton should quit. She is hurting her country by her selfishness.

[hollowdweller]

6. I think the extended primary is helping.

I think getting all the dirty stuff out early and the public getting tired of it will neutralize it all.

However all the stuff that comes out about Mc Cain in the GE will be new news.

Plus on the issues along McCain sucks.

Very few people want "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss"

[elocs]

9. Remember, remember the way things were.

From: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DF1F3DF934A25755C0A96E948260

Poll Gives Large Lead To Dukakis Over Bush


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 17, 1988

LEAD: Gov. Michael S. Dukakis held a 15-point lead over Vice President Bush in an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll released yesterday, largely on the strength of overwhelming support for Mr. Dukakis among women.

Gov. Michael S. Dukakis held a 15-point lead over Vice President Bush in an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll released yesterday, largely on the strength of overwhelming support for Mr. Dukakis among women.

Mr. Dukakis was supported by 49 percent of the registered voters in the poll, as against 34 percent for Mr. Bush, NBC News reported. Among men the split was 46 percent to 40 percent for Mr. Dukakis, but among women his margin was 52 percent to 28 percent.

The national survey of 2,014 adults was conducted June 9-12. Its result was similar to that of a Gallup poll, conducted June 10-12, that found a 14-point Dukakis lead. Two other polls early in June put the Massachusetts Governor's lead in single digits; others in May had Mr. Dukakis's lead as great as 16 points.

Now how did that ever turn out? It ain't over till it's over. General election polls don't mean too much so early, especially when the Republicans have a candidate and the Democrats do not.

[AndyTiedye]

22. Can You Cite a Presidential Election Where the DEMOCRAT Came From Behind to Win?

Why is it that ALL of the examples people cite to say that "early polls are meaningless"
show the Repiglickins coming from behind to "win". Yeah. They do it all the time.
It really helps when you own the news, the churches, and the voting machinez.

If you want to cheer us up, try citing an example where the Democratic Presidential nominee
comes from behind to win, or goes from a tie to a landslide.

This has not occurred in my lifetime, but I'm only 56, so I missed this by a few years:

[elocs]

26. That in no way disproves that early poll numbers are not a lock for the end result. n/t

[AndyTiedye]

28. No, But They're Awfully Discouraging!

And citing previous elections where we were doing great in the polls at this point and still lost really isn't helping! :cry:

[Parche]

10. Karl Rove At Work

There is no way Mccain can beat any Dem, unless they Diebold the votes at midnight on election day...:grr: :grr:

:hi:

[scarface2004]

11. lies, damn lies. and statistics.

makane sucks so bad...this poll is so full of crap!

[santamargarita]

14. BULLSHIT!

Never believe anything that comes from the fascist media!
I haven't watched their crap in over 7 years!

[xioaping]

15. Thanks HRC. McCain erases Obama National lead

Get over it. Get on with it.

[and-justice-for-all]

19. I dont give polls much clout...

they are too easily manipulated.

[EnemyOfTheocracy]

23. what more do you need hilary?

lightining to strike you?
GET OUT OF THE RACE AND GIVE UP THE DREAM!
you can still run as mcain's VP in the general so it will all be ok.
just get out of this party your work is done.
maybe if john mcain wins the dust-farting, relic will croak and you can be the president.
maybe that was your intention all along.

[barb162]

25. Obama should get out of the race.

"The four-term Arizona senator has moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates, particularly Obama."

Notice those last two words? Democrats have a better chance with HRC.

[darue]

27. could this be beacuse a lot of likely dem voters are refusing to speak to the polls?

I don't think I'd sit through a phone poll at this point myself