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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:25 PM
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As other staples soar, potatoes break new ground
Source: Reuters

As wheat and rice prices surge, the humble potato -- long derided as a boring tuber prone to making you fat -- is being rediscovered as a nutritious crop that could cheaply feed an increasingly hungry world.

Potatoes, which are native to Peru, can be grown at almost any elevation or climate: from the barren, frigid slopes of the Andes Mountains to the tropical flatlands of Asia. They require very little water, mature in as little as 50 days, and can yield between two and four times more food per hectare than wheat or rice.

"The shocks to the food supply are very real and that means we could potentially be moving into a reality where there is not enough food to feed the world," said Pamela Anderson, director of the International Potato Center in Lima (CIP), a non-profit scientific group researching the potato family to promote food security.

Like others, she says the potato is part of the solution.

The potato has potential as an antidote to hunger caused by higher food prices, a population that is growing by one billion people each decade, climbing costs for fertilizer and diesel, and more cropland being sown for biofuel production.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/inDepthNews/idUSN0830529220080415?feedType=RSS&feedName=inDepthNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:29 PM
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1. And they taste awesome with garlic.
Garlic mashed potatoes, roasted potatoes with garlic and herbs, potato and roasted garlic soup, garlic fries, etc.

I'll get somebody to wipe up the drool puddle. :blush:
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:11 PM
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17. Eating GMO potatoes or rice is russian roulette
take care of yourself.
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Jeff_The_Man Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:01 AM
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24. I agree!
So good!!!
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:29 PM
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2. Terrible for your Triglycerides
But makes a great Vodka.

I consume neither.


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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:49 PM
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3. Nice quote from the article:
They also have one-fourth of the calories of bread and, when boiled, have more protein than corn and nearly twice the calcium, according to the Potato Center. They contain vitamin C, iron, potassium and zinc.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:12 PM
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5. And they are not as bad for your teeth as grains. nt
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Jeff_The_Man Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:02 AM
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25. How are grains bad for your teeth?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:22 AM
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31. do the grains get stuck in our teeth?
I've never heard that either, Jeff :o
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:14 AM
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38. The starches are stickier and harder to get off the enamel.
Or so I have read. I do know that the Irish, back in the old days when they lived on potatoes and milk, were known for their excellent teeth relative to their British masters.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:19 PM
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8. when boiled? how about when baked?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:08 PM
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4. More groundbreaking potato news:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:18 PM
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6. okay. I think I just decided to double the potato patch when the garden goes in. nt
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:40 PM
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42. do you grow them in the ground or in a barrel?
i have clay soil so they never get big in the ground, have to grow them in a barrel

other than that, they are very little trouble
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:17 PM
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45. I think you can grow them in hay
I've never really tried it, but have read about it here and there--try googling for info.

Potatoes are one of my main crops. I love them and love growing them--it's so much fun to dig them up in the fall, like buried treasure.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:23 PM
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46. I'm going to try both..

I've never grown them before :shrug:

soil is great here, so I think they'll do okay both ways
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:06 AM
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48. I'm going to try them in tire towers this summer
Basically, you put down a tire, put your seed potatoes in the center, and fill it with soil and compost. Add a 3 ft long PVC pipe vertically into the center of the tire with holes drilled in it so that you can water all the way to the bottom later. When the sprouts are 8" tall, you add another tire and re-bury. By doing this, you're denying the stem sunlight and forcing it to grow far taller than it usually would, and it should set tubers all up the stem (or so I've read). After 3 tires, just let it grow as it normally would and fill up the tire tower with tubers. Come fall, just push the whole thing over.

If this works out as well as the books say it should, I'm gonna need more tires.

BTW, I highly recommend Yukon Gold's. They've become my favorite all-around potato.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:19 PM
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7. sweet potatoes are an excellent choice-but can't be shipped into CA-have call AG dept
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 10:29 PM by fed-up
to find a grower IN California

farmer BF will be planting a few thousand this spring for the farmer's market

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_potato

The sweet potato (Ipomoea batatas), commonly called a yam in parts of the United States, is a crop plant whose large, starchy, sweet tasting tuberous roots are an important root vegetable. The young leaves and shoots are sometimes eaten as greens. The sweet potato is only distantly related to the potato (Solanum tuberosum). It is even more distantly related to the true yam (Dioscorea species), which is native to Africa and Asia.

The genus Ipomoea that contains the sweet potato also includes several garden flowers called morning glories, though that term is not usually extended to Ipomoea batatas. Some cultivars of Ipomoea batatas are grown as ornamental plants.
This plant is a herbaceous perennial vine, bearing alternate heart-shaped or palmately lobed leaves and medium-sized sympetalous flowers. The edible tuberous root is long and tapered, with a smooth skin whose color ranges between red, purple, brown and white. Its flesh ranges from white through yellow, orange, and purple.

Origin and distribution
Sweet potatoes are native to the tropical parts of the Americas, and were domesticated there at least 5000 years ago. <1> <2> They spread very early throughout the region, including the Caribbean. They were also known before western exploration in Polynesia. How exactly they arrived there is the subject of a fierce debate which involves archaeological, linguistic and genetic evidence.
Sweet potatoes are now cultivated throughout tropical and warm temperate regions wherever there is sufficient water to support their growth.

According to 2004 FAO statistics world production is 127,000,000 tons <3>. The majority comes from China with a production of 105,000,000 tonnes from 49,000 km². About half of the Chinese crop is used for livestock feed <4>.
Per-capita production is greatest in countries where sweet potatoes are a staple of human consumption, led by the Solomon Islands at 160 kg per person per year, Burundi at 130 kg and Uganda at 100 kg.

In New Zealand, sweet potato is known by its M?ori name, k?mara. It was a staple food for M?ori before European contact. Today, it is still very popular, although less popular than regular potatoes. There are about 85 commercial k?mara growers, with 1,220 hectares producing 20,000 tonnes of k?mara annually.

In the U.S., North Carolina, the leading state in sweet potato production, provided 38.5% of the 2007 U.S. production of sweet potatoes. California, Louisiana, and Mississippi compete closely with each other in production. Louisiana has been a long-time major producer, once second only to North Carolina, and closely followed by California until the latter began surpassing it in 2002. In 2007, California produced 23%, Louisiana 15.9%, and Mississippi 19% of the U.S. total. <5> <6>

Opelousas, Louisiana's Yambilee has been celebrated every October since 1946. The Frenchmen who established the first settlement at Opelousas in 1760 discovered the native Attakapas, Alabama, Choctaw, and Opelousas Indian Tribes eating sweet potatoes. The sweet potato became a favorite food item of the French and Spanish settlers and thus continued a long history of cultivation in Louisiana.<7>
Mississippi is also a major sweet potato producing state, with about 150 farmers presently growing sweet potatoes on approximately 8,200 acres and contributing $19 million dollars to the state's economy. Mississippi's top five sweet potato producing counties are Calhoun, Chickasaw, Pontotoc, Yalobusha, and Panola. The National Sweet Potato Festival is held annually the entire first week in November in Vardaman (Calhoun County), which proclaims itself as "The Sweet Potato Capital".

Cultivation
The plant does not enjoy frost. It grows best at an average temperature of 24 °C (75 °F), abundant sunshine and warm nights. Annual rainfalls of 750-1000 mm are considered most suitable, with a minimum of 500 mm in the growing season. The crop is sensitive to drought at the tuber initiation stage 50-60 days after planting and is not tolerant to water-logging, as it may cause tuber rots and reduce growth of storage roots if aeration is poor (Ahn, 1993).

Depending on the cultivar and conditions, tuberous roots mature in two to nine months. With care, early-maturing cultivars can be grown as an annual summer crop in temperate areas, such as the northern USA. Sweet potatoes rarely flower when the daylight is longer than 11 hours, as is normal outside of the tropics. They are mostly propagated by stem or root cuttings or by adventitious roots called "slips" that grow out from the tuberous roots during storage. True seeds are used for breeding only.

Under optimal conditions of 85 to 90 % relative humidity at 13 to 16 °C (55 to 61 °F), sweet potatoes can keep for six months. Colder temperatures injure the roots.

They grow well in many farming conditions and have few natural enemies; pesticides are rarely needed. Sweet potatoes are grown on a variety of soils, but well-drained light and medium textured soils with a pH range of 4.5-7.0 are more favourable for the plant (Woolfe, 1992; Ahn, 1993). They can be grown in poor soils with little fertilizer. However, sweet potatoes are very sensitive to aluminium toxicity and will die about 6 weeks after planting if lime is not applied at planting in this type of soil (Woolfe, 1992). Because they are sown by vine cuttings rather than seeds, sweet potatoes are relatively easy to plant. Because the rapidly growing vines shade out weeds, little weeding is needed, and farmers can devote time to other crops. In the tropics the crop can be maintained in the ground and harvested as needed for market or home consumption. In temperate regions sweet potatoes are most often grown on larger farms and are harvested before frosts set in.
China is the largest grower of sweet potatoes; providing about 80% of the world's supply, 130 million tons were produced in one year (in 1990; about half that of common potatoes). Historically, most of China's sweet potatoes were grown for human consumption, but now most (60%) are grown to feed pigs. The rest are grown for human food and for other products. Some are grown for export, mainly to Japan. China grows over 100 varieties of sweet potato.

After introduction there, sweet potatoes very early became popular in the islands of the Pacific ocean, from Japan to Polynesia. One reason is that they were a reliable crop in cases of crop failure of other staple foods due to typhoon flooding. They are featured in many favorite dishes in Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines , and other island nations. Indonesia, Vietnam, India, and some other Asian countries are also large sweet potato growers. Uganda (the third largest grower after Indonesia), Rwanda, and some other African countries also grow a large crop which is an important part of their peoples' diets. North and South America, the original home of the sweet potato, together grow less than three percent of the world's supply. Europe has only a very small sweet potato production, mostly in Portugal. In the Caribbean, a variety of the sweet potato called the boniato is very popular. Interestingly, the flesh of the boniato is cream-colored, rather than the more popular orange hue seen in other varieties. Boniatos aren't as sweet and moist as other sweet potatoes, but many people prefer their fluffier consistency and more delicate flavor. Boniatos have been grown throughout the subtropical world for centuries, but became an important commercial crop in Florida in recent years.

Sweet potatoes were an important part of the diet in the United States for most of its history, especially in the Southeast. In recent years however they have become less popular. The average per capita consumption of sweet potatoes in the United States is only about 1.5-2 kg (4 lbs) per year, down from 13 kg (31 lb) in 1920. Southerner Kent Wrench writes: "The Sweet Potato became associated with hard times in the minds of our ancestors and when they became affluent enough to change their menu, the potato was served less often."
New Zealanders grow enough k?mara to provide each person with 7kg (15.4 lbs) a year, and also import substantially more than this from China.

Nutrition and health benefits

Besides simple starches, sweet potatoes are rich in complex carbohydrates, dietary fiber, beta carotene (a vitamin A equivalent nutrient), vitamin C, and vitamin B6.

In 1992, the Center for Science in the Public Interest compared the nutritional value of sweet potatoes to other vegetables. Considering fiber content, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitamins A and C, iron, and calcium, the sweet potato ranked highest in nutritional value. According to these criteria, sweet potatoes earned 184 points, 100 points over the next on the list, the common potato.(NCSPC)

Sweet potato varieties with dark orange flesh have more beta carotene than those with light colored flesh and their increased cultivation is being encouraged in Africa where Vitamin A deficiency is a serious health problem. Despite the name "sweet", it may be a beneficial food for diabetics, as preliminary studies on animals have revealed that it helps to stabilize blood sugar levels and to lower insulin resistance.<1> Some Americans, including television personality Oprah Winfrey, are advocating increased consumption of sweet potatoes both for their health benefits and because of their importance in traditional Southern cuisine.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:21 PM
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9. It is the one thing
I can't seem to grow here in Fl. It is hot, it rains and they rot in the ground.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:32 PM
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12. potatoes are easy to grow in containers-maybe you could use an umbrella? or
http://centralfloridagarden.blogspot.com/2007/09/sweet-potatoes-and-onions.html

http://www.netpamj.com/groundcover.htm

Sally Scalera

Brevard County Horticulture Extension Agent
3695 Lake Drive -- Cocoa FL 32926 -- 321-633-1702

Ground cover produces food, too!

June 12, 2004

Every now and then you find a plant that accomplishes two things (at one time) in the landscape. Many ornamental plants also attract wildlife like butterflies, birds and hummingbirds. Some gardeners will only grow plants if they produce food but, as with citrus, they may also produce fragrant blooms. I have in mind today a very attractive ground cover that also produces food. he ground cover that I am thinking of is sweet potatoes (Ipomoea batatas).

When thinking of nutrition, many people already realize how nutritious sweet potatoes are. Sweet potatoes are packed with four times the U.S. Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of vitamin A and half the RDA of vitamin C. These are one of the healthiest vegetables you can harvest!

Even if you don't eat the skin of your sweet potato it still has a significant amount of copper, folic acid and fiber. The closest vegetables (nutritionally) to the sweet potatoes - and they are still far behind in overall nutritional value - are carrots, spinach and collard greens.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:28 PM
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18. Sweet potatoes
I have no problem with. In fact I have them coming up in a lot of places in my yard. Same with peanuts. It is regular potatoes that I want so badly to grow and have no luck with. Thanks for the info though, I enjoyed reading it.
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Jeff_The_Man Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:02 AM
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26. I love sweet potatos!!!
Especially with maple sauce over them
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:56 PM
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21. Maybe this will help
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/HS183

They seem to do well in the winter and spring.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:39 AM
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33. Thanks!
this is great. Just what I need. I will try again in the fall. Thanks again!
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:43 PM
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43. potatoes are planted jan/feb in louisiana where i live
if you are planting your potatoes in florida at a time of year when it gets hot, i think you are planting at the wrong season?

you can plant sweet potatoes in hot weather

grow your regular irish type potatoes in cool weather and maybe in a container if you have a clay soil -- that's my idea
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:46 AM
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47. Thanks for the tip. n/t
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:24 PM
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10. Two words:
Winged bean.

Four more words:

Biofuels are ultimately counterproductive.

Thoughts?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:29 PM
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11. Only if you get them from food crops
Cellulosic biofuels from non-food material is the way to go here.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:47 PM
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14. Absolutely, but there is a cost-benefit analysis to be made.
Cellulosic biofuels show a great deal of promise insofar as liter-per-acre yields compared to maize-based or soya-based biofuel production, but the essential problem remains:

As arable land is ever-more devoted to biofuel production, the production of crops intended for and/or ultimately sold for the purpose of processing as foodstuffs decreases exponentially, commensurate with the demand for fuel.

Food prices then skyrocket, to the point of mass famine, due to the vagarities inherent to globalized food production and distribution, and as fuel becomes ever more important than food, more and more people starve to death.

Sucking petroleum out of the ground has screwed us all. If our nation had put the kind of effort into renewable/viable energy that it has into death, destruction, ill-will, or historically, space exploration, this crisis could have been averted before it ever was.

As it is, we're all royally boned, and our entire world is worse off for our shortsightedness.

I just hope that humanity can see itself though this rough patch. Because in my view, that outcome is by no means assured...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:53 AM
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23. Cellulosic biofuels would not directly compete with farmland
The idea is to use stuff like forest products waste and switchgress, and maybe algae getting CO2 shots from smokestacks. This isn't prime farmland stuff.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:40 PM
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13. Kick
Interesting subject for a Florida home veggie gardener.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:49 PM
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15. The potato was so important in feeding the poor of Europe that a Polish nobleman erected a statue...
...in honor of the humble potato. Incredibly simple to cultivate, needing only a spade, families could be well nourished on potatos, cabbages, and milk from a cow.

This New World import ultimately fueled a population explosion among the peasantry in Europe and in Ireland -- but when the great blight struck, potato crops rotted to slime, and the Irish in particular starved and died in great numbers.

What had been a population explosion across the Atlantic ultimately became waves of mass migrations from Europe and Ireland to the New World.

The 21st century moral of this story -- if there is one -- is that in the exceptionally overcrowded world of today we can only pray that while the poor are being provided the means to feed themselves, they will also be provided the means to limit births. The article does point out that we are adding a billion new mouths to feed every decade now.

Hekate
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:23 AM
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39. Darn right it's easy to cultivate
Put it in the ground and forget about it. I discovered potatoes last year. Other vegetables I have to watch over -- rabbits get them -- but not the potato. And they taste SOOO good when they're fresh.
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SteinbachMB Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:53 PM
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16. I love this article.
And I love taters. A world with more potatoes is a better world: ask the Irish.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:28 PM
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19. How about HEMP? Excellent source of almost everything the planet needs
It can be grown almost anywhere - makes a superior fuel oil, paper, biodiesel, food oil (seeds), does not harm the land (no pesticides needed), makes great compost (oh, and it makes great rope too).

The growing and utilization of hemp would free up massive amts of farmland that is now growing corn for ethanol.... we could get back to growing FOOD.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:48 PM
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20. I credit hemp jeans & jacket
for having avoided skin grafting after taking my old honda magna to the road at around 35mph. I mean, yeah it trashed them, but I got surprisingly little road rash.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:06 AM
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27. A friends brother credits his hemp pants w saving him.
His Leather jacket gave away and he did need skin grafts. The pants took the brunt of the fall and he ended up w/ only 'road rash'.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:46 AM
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34. Are you kidding me?
Don't you know that hemp is kind of related to another plant that can GET YOU HIGH???? How dare you suggest we sanction the growing of something that is kind of related to something else that can get you high (and is not alcohol or caffeine)? For God's sake, think of the children! Why do you hate America?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:43 AM
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22. My Irish husband and I ate potatoes every day. I get the habit
from my South American heritage. Just before he died, he lost the will to eat, but still would manage to down some mashed potatoes or potato soup if he could eat nothing else. I still eat them every day. They are nutritious and contrary to popular belief they don't make you fat. It's all the butter and other sauces people put on them that does that. They are also easy to store and can be kept for months before they go bad. It's a good solution for a third world country.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:20 AM
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29. It's a good solution for a third world country.
and we're quickly becoming one...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:19 AM
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28. the anti-carb crowd can fuck themselves
POTATOES ARE AWESOME
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:21 AM
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30. can't eat them -- too many carbs
Unfortunately, because I like them a lot. No more potatoes for me -- the blood sugar goes sky high.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:45 PM
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44. same with my husband, most frustrating EOM
,
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:24 AM
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32. Potatoes, Pears, Peas & Pot....The four "P's". - Nothing better!
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:47 AM by LaPera
As for the other "P" - Protein, well, we'll just have to make do.....Potato bugs anyone?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 AM
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35. As a potato fanatic, I say "Bring it on"!
I like em' baked, boiled, broiled, fried, even raw. Yum!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 AM
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36. the spud is my bud
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:16 AM
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37. And they winter well, transport well, store well.
Fantastic things. Yummy too.

Great with cheese.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:04 AM
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40. Potatoes are my favorite food.
Granted, this is not good news, but ... If I have to be condemned to only one food, I could ask for worse things than a tater.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:38 PM
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41. Dan Quayle. nt
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