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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:50 PM
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Wal-Mart to log guns sold, then used in crimes
Source: MSNBC/AP

Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest seller of firearms, announced Monday it will toughen rules for gun sales, from storing video of purchases to creating an internal log of which guns they sell that are later used in crimes.

J.P. Suarez, the chief compliance officer for Wal-Mart Stores Inc., appeared with outspoken gun control advocate Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York to announce the changes at a gathering of Bloomberg’s group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

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Creating a record and alert system to record when a gun sold at Wal-Mart is later used in a crime. If the purchaser of that gun later tries to buy another gun at Wal-Mart, the system would alert the sales clerk of the prior buy and could refuse to make the sale.

Retaining the recorded images of gun sales in case law enforcement wants to view them later as part of an investigation.

Expanding background checks of employees who handle guns and expanding inventory controls.


Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24114145/
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:13 PM
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1. Wow -- since the NRA hates accountability, when does the Wal-Mart boycott begin?
:popcorn:
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:25 PM
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2. I am curious
how many wal mart guns are used in crimes. I guess I thought most used in crimes were bought on the street illegally.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:32 PM
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3. But they weren't just manufactured on the street
Those illegally purchased or stolen on the street had to come from somewhere, initially.
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sergeiAK Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:38 PM
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4. Walmart only sells rifles and shotguns, too -nt
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:37 AM
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12. And even then...
only about 1/3 of the stores even sells firearms.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:52 PM
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5. "internal log"-why not make it public-or send it to Michael Moore??? nt
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:08 AM
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6. Wow....
good on Wal-Mart.

Didn't see this coming at all. But it begs to ask- why doesn't something like this exist already on a federal level?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:23 AM
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7. Because the NRA has been fighting it tooth-and-nail
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:08 AM
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10. It already does (BATFE). Wal-Mart is just going to keep a copy of BATFE trace requests.
The paper trail that allows guns to be traced was set up by the Gun Control Act of 1968.
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dger11 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:36 AM
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8. Big City Bloomberg has his hands all over this
Anything to spite that rural/small town Wal-Mart shopper. But hey, at least there's no D after his name.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:48 AM
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9. NRA says it's a PR stunt.
I have to agree wirh them.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:29 AM
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11. Guess the criminals will have to go elsewhere...
for their Ruger 10/22's and Marlin lever actions.

The "agreement" is political posturing by Blowberg.

Most of the actual terms of the agreement are pretty much moot since they're already part of federal law or practices/policies that are already in place or just smart business sense (except for #3 which is just plain laughable)...




The 10 points of the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership are:

1. Videotaping the Point of Sale for All Firearms Transactions. Participating
retailers will videotape the point-of-sale of all firearms transactions and maintain
videos for 6 months to deter illegal purchases and monitor employees.

2. Computerized Crime Gun Trace Log and Alert System. Mayors Against Illegal
Guns will develop a computerized system that participating retailers will implement
over time to log crime gun traces relating to the retailer. Once the program is in
place, if a customer who has a prior trace at that retailer attempts to purchase a
firearm, the sale will be electronically flagged. The retailer would have discretion to
proceed with the sale or stop the sale.

3. Purchaser Declaration. For sales flagged by the trace alert system, participating
retailers will ask purchasers to fill out a declaration indicating that they meet the legal
requirement to purchase the firearm.

4. Deterring Fake IDs. Participating retailers will only accept valid federal- or state-issued
picture IDs as primary identification. Retailers will utilize additional ID
checking mechanisms.

5. Consistent Visible Signage Consistent Visible Signage. Participating retailers
will post signage created by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership to alert
customers of their legal responsibilities at the point-of-sale.

6. Employee Background Checks Employee Background Checks. Participating
retailers will conduct criminal background checks for all employees selling or
handling firearms.

7. Employee Responsibility Training. Participating retailers will participate in an
employee responsibility training program focused on deterring illegal purchasers.
The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership will create an online training system
based on Wal-Mart’s training program.

8. Inventory Checking. Participating retailers will conduct daily and quarterly audits.
Guidelines will be based on Wal-Mart’s existing audit procedures.

9. No Sales Without Background Check Results. Participating retailers would
prohibit sales based on “default proceeds,” which are permitted by law when the
background check has not returned a result within 3 days.

10. Securing Firearms. Participating retailers will maintain firearms kept in
customer accessible areas in locked cases or locked to racks.


http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/walmartguns.pdf

Hmmmm...

I wonder when the grand opening will be?....


Wal-Mart, the world’s largest retailer, had previously tried to establish a store in New York City but failed.


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