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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:56 AM
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Pro-immigrant message draws fire from Tancredo
Source: Rocky mountain news

Rep. Tom Tancredo blasted the pro-immigrant message of visiting Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday, accusing the pontiff of using "faith-based marketing" to boost foreign-born attendance at parishes in the United States.

"I suspect the pope's immigration comments may have less to do with spreading the gospel than they do about recruiting new members of the church," said Tancredo, a former Catholic who now attends an Evangelical Presbyterian Church.



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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:01 AM
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1. Can he please be deported? n/t
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:53 PM
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16. I wonder since he's first generation Italian Amer. who brought his parents over? What a hater.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:03 AM
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2. No compassion in Tom's life
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:06 AM
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3. Tom Tancredo is useful to us
He may encourage a few conservatives to stay home rather than vote for McAmnesty.
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Texano78704 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:10 AM
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5. Perhaps...
Or more likely Juan McCain will change (and is) his position to pick up the Tancredo hate vote.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:37 AM
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9. and to other groups


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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:06 AM
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4. "faith-based marketing"?
Like anti-gay marriage, pro-life, anti-stem cell type of marketing? :shrug:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:14 AM
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6. Well on this one I'm with the Pope. I find it hard to understand how we can dehumanize the
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:17 AM by Mountainman
illegal immigrants. All the righteousness I hear from the anti immigrant folks seems to me to be based in xenophobia. People are reacting to the cultural changes and I can understand that, but change is inevitable and the changes are temporary.

All immigrant groups were treated this way when lived in their ghettos. It is natural for them to stay with their own kind and bring their customs and language with them. But succeeding generations tend to meld into something new that hasn't been here before.

As to depressed wages, I agree that has taken place, but not all of it can be blamed on illegals. The employers have been on the side of lower wages ever since the conservative movement had taken hold of our country. Union busting, global trade, and many other things have led to the problems we face.

The most important idea is that sending the illegals home will never happen. To constantly call for that is not being honest and realistic.

The better idea is to form strong coalitions with all working class people to make the changes we all want. Divided we have much less power and our time is spent on the immigration issue and not on all the other things we need to be working on.

I am for stricter enforcement of the border but also for such things as working with our neighbors to make the need to leave less of a factor.

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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:23 AM
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7. Immigration reform must start in Mexico
Corrupt government and greedy (mostly American) corporations fuel the exodus from South American countries. If given a real choice between earning a liveable wage at home or leaving family, country and friends to earn a living in Fascist America, I'm confident 90% would choose the former.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:29 AM
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8. I agree, but when you try that you are labeled a Marxist or enemy of the
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:32 AM by Mountainman
United States. The other America is turning more left so that more people can share in the wealth. That scares the hell out of us.

My wife's aunt lives in Venezuela. She is well off but is leaving to live in the US permanently. Hugo is making changes she can't live with.

My brother is a Catholic Priest and he preaches liberation theology. That was what we fought against with Reagan. Land reform and all that.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:40 AM
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10. But had the pontiff given an anti-abortion address...
You could have bet the farm that Tancredo would NOT have accused him of using faith-based marketing to condemn those who supprt a woman's right to make decisions about her own body.
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nbcouch Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:56 AM
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11. Well, of course!
Tancredo's a little nazi, and we all know how nazis feel about the Cat'lics.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:22 PM
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12. Tancredo is such a buffoon.
Hey dumb ass, these "immigrants" are aleady Catholic, you f*cking stupid fascist pig. They don't cross the borders with "no religious background". Ever been to a Latin American country? Ever been outside of your own heavy barb wired compound?

Honest to God, it's people like Tancredo that make me embarrassed to admit I'm an American.

Stick your head back in the sand and go to sleep.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:58 PM
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14. If Tancredo's head was in the sand
he wouldn't be such an embarrassment. Sadly, his head is stuck someplace darker and stinkier. And that is sickeningly obvious every time he pulls it out long enough to "share" what he finds there.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:28 PM
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13. Yes, Tancredo is that stupid. nt
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:29 PM
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15. Paging Bill Donohue...Bill Donohue to the podum please...
The Catholic League doesn't let an insult by anybody get by them, even from a Republicsn.
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