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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:25 PM
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PA exit polls: Whites, blue-collar voters stick with Clinton
Source: YN

WASHINGTON - Working-class white voters rallied around Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday as she kept her candidacy alive with a victory in Pennsylvania's presidential primary. Barack Obama won among Democrats who had newly flocked to the party for the day's showdown and scored even stronger than usual with blacks.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423/ap_on_el_pr/primary_exit_poll;_ylt=AoNMCtwBIMKo.x48Tf302cSs0NUE



WOW, They are scared of a black man.

I wonder if these same people voted Bush twice?

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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:26 PM
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1. Go white people!
Yeah! Keep the dream alive!

:eyes:
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:23 AM
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20. The dream being what?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:28 PM
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2. by your own logic then....somebody is afraid of a white woman?? both views are baloney nt
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:48 PM
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9. The governor said it's "okay" to be racist...
The governor of Pennsylvania said that white voters would not vote for a black candidate. And the Clintons smiled to themselves and said nothing. The governor in essence said it's okay to vote for the white woman because you don't like blacks. Pennsylvania was not a surprise to anyone who remembered his comment. The suprise is that anyone who is not a racist would continue to support her. The Clintons have not played the race card. But they have had others play it for them.

Pennsylvania is now part of the Deep South - no doubt the blue collar workers and the rest of the Clinton supporters in Pennsylvania whistle "Dixie" every chance they get.

Her campaign has convinced me that I was wrong when I thought no one could possibly be worse than George W Bush. Hillary Clinton would be.

Her "9/11" ad just underscored how low she will go to pander her way to the nomination. And of course many of the truly ignorant people in Pennsylvania went "oh, you know, Barack Obama is a Muslim."

I feel sorry for anyone who would vote for someone who would run such an ad and further fuel the rumor her own campaign started.

Barack Obama is not a terrorist. Hillary Clinton on the other hand is.

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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:09 PM
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37. In essence?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 05:09 PM by Ronnie
What does that mean? You get to make stuff up? And do you conclude, in essence, that anyone who votes for Hillary Clinton is stupid and a racist? And conversely, do you conclude, that the 92% of African Americans who voted for Mr. Obama did so for reasons other than race? Is that the essence of your post?
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:28 PM
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3. I don't get it. Do they have the net in PA?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:41 PM
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5. Apparently they have restrictions on certain sites...
not to mention that all the non-MSM news sources must be in the top tiers of the cable offerings.

I can't 'splain it either.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:29 PM
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4. What a stunningly stupid commentary.
The real Democrats don't want him. The Dems-for-a-Day want someone who won't require them to actually do anything, like think or fight or work long hours to get one sentence in a bill changed.

We're Democrats. Granted how few of you are interested in actual democratic process, I really do wonder what you are.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:42 PM
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6. What do you call someone who's NOT a complete ass?
That's what we are.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 AM
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10. People who disapprove of interracial relationships go overwhelmingly for Clinton.
Those are your voters. Your peeps. Your homies.

Embrace them.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 AM
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12. this is as stupid as aquarts "real Democrats" post
please, all of you knock this crap off - you sound like freepers
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:38 AM
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19. What the hell is happening around here?
I used to just think that all that talk about the Democrats falling apart was just a bunch of MSM garbage. And now... whether it's Clinton or Obama who gets the nomination, I actually concerned that here, at least, a sizeable chunk might actually refuse to support the nominee if it's not their candidate.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:16 AM
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23. they've fallen for media-induced garbage
they have lost sight of who the enemy is - simply put, they're behaving like a bunch of FOX NEWS-watching freepers :puke:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:16 AM
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24. dup
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 02:17 AM by Skittles
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:24 PM
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34. Keep calling Hillary supporters racist idiots
and see how that works out
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:22 PM
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33. reasons why Obama can't get Dems to support him:
1) your post
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:08 AM
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11. wtf?
"the real Democrats" ?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:46 PM
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7. Only Philly has it's shit together - it went strong for Obama. The rest of PA is insane. -eom
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:10 AM
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13. listen to yourself
wtf!!!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:20 AM
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14. Sorry, I think the Clinton War & Impeachment Machine is the worst thing to happen to Our Party.
If I liked the way Hillary votes, I'd be a Republican.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:28 AM
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15. I don't like her stance on the war either
but I don't trash all of her fans for it
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:30 AM
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16. Do they not enable it? Allow it to continue? Promote her continuance & excusal of it?
Just who, then, stands up and says it's WRONG?

I do.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:31 AM
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17. but you're assuming Obama has no faults
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:31 AM by Skittles
I haven't seen him doing a heck of a lot to stop the war.......some of us see the faults in both of them
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:34 AM
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18. His faults do not include sending 4000+ Americans to their deaths in an illegal war.
And causing the deaths of untold Iraqis.

His faults do not include the threat of OBLITERATING Iran.

A Grand Canyon's worth of difference for those who care about such things. Like me.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:14 AM
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22. I care about such things
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 02:22 AM by Skittles
In fact, any support of IWR was a deal-breaker for me - I just don't think voters have to goose-step to one candidate
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:19 AM
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28. I guess you have conveniently left your principles behind since then.
How funny that you both use a Nazi analogy AND support the warmongering candidate.

Very telling.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:59 PM
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38. Who did you vote for in 2004?
?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:48 PM
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8. How do they know how white blue collar workers voted?
I have voted in every presidential election since 1972 and never once did a poll worker ask me my occupation.
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:25 AM
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21. Now I begin to worry...
I worry that Clinton was right. He can not win. We pay a lot of PC lip service to how much the country has changed and it's becoming obvious to me now that it really hasn't. Laws have changed so you can't just treat people any kind of old way and not expect consequences, sure. But attitudes? *Just Shakes his head*

I'm a black man and disabled, and despite that I'm educated, a small business man and someone that works hard and pushes for a bright future. Before this I kinda thought I represented the American dream. What you could achieve if you really wanted to. It was something to take some pride in. Now I sit here, a grown man, with my feelings hurt.

It's not that Barack is losing, it's that he's losing in decent part because this country doesn't trust someone that looks like him. A good portion of this country considers him alien. And if they think that about him.... All I can say is it kinda hurts.

Slowly, but surely, I'm starting to see just what America REALLY thinks of me.

*Throws his hands up and walks off....*
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:36 PM
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35. I think that Obama's words in San Francisco could be interpreted
as insulting to many outside large cities and some in them, too. I know that's not the popular take on those words here, but I think that the negative interp is reasonable, unfortunately. Who's going to vote for someone who insults them?

He also refuses the common signals of patrioitism, like the pin and the hand over his heart. He wife badly misspoke. Rev. Wright was a problem. Even people who want better health care, better jobs and a way out of Iraq, a war that some of their sons and daughters are fighting, want to know that the candidate they're voting for loves the country, just like they do, warts and all.

If Obama had taken the pin given to him by the disabled vet, worn it, and said "I love my country, too, but we can do better," I think that he would have reassured some nervous voters.

He'll have to do that in the fall if he wants to beat McCain. Perhaps he'll change his presentation some for N.C. and Indiana. It couldn't hurt.
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Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:44 AM
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25. "WOW, They are scared of a black man."
That's a stupid comment. Blacks voted over 90% for Obama. Why don't you say "Are they scared of a white woman?" Double standard? Hypocracy? Be honest!
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:27 AM
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26. Whites went for Clinton 60-40
Not that far from an even split. And based on that you are saying they are "scared of a black man"? Those figures show no such thing. What was the percentage of blacks voting for Obama again?? I'll tell you, in case you missed it: A staggering 89%. With your rationale, they are scared of a white woman. How's that?

If 9 out of 10 white voters would go for Clinton, a lot of Obama supporters would scream racism all over the place. So what does 9 out of 10 blacks going for Obama constitute, I humbly ask?

BLACKS are engaging in race-based voting, not whites. They are going all out for Obama because of his skin color, totally in opposition to MLK's words about content of character being what should matter. It is obvious that whites have progressed past the ugly old habit of voting according to race to a larger extent than the black population. Maybe you should've given that some thought before trying to imply the opposite.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:50 AM
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27. I'm tired of this guy always deciding who our President will be...


Go USA! Let's nuke them Eyeraneeuns!

The USA depicted in Idiocracy is already here I'm afraid.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:16 AM
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29. The Reagan Democrats Are Gonna Be SOOOO Unhappy Come November!
Good! They deserve far worse than to be on the losing side of an election. Their fatuousness lost us our future, our economy, and our Constitution.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:22 AM
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30. The only headline about the election in LBN and you put in a retarded comment
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:26 AM
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31. Not the only headline.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:37 AM
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32. Just how stupid are you? Keep alienating everyone who might see things differently than you!
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