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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:00 AM
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New Mexico governor to meet with Chávez regarding FARC hostages
Source: El Universal - opposition newspaper

Caracas, Wednesday April 23 , 2008

New Mexico governor to meet with Chávez regarding FARC hostages

Bill Richardson, New Mexico governor and former nominate to the White House for the Democratic Party, will land in Venezuela next Friday to discuss with President Hugo Chávez the issue of the US hostages held by the rebel Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC).

During a press conference held on Wednesday in Santa Fe, United States, Richardson said that the relatives of the three hostages asked for his mediation. The high ranking officer is coordinating his mission with the Department of State; nonetheless, he has insisted on saying that his visit is not on an official basis, Efe reported.

"Let us see if Chávez can be a middleman and help. Talking to the FARC is not easy," said Richardson.

During his stay in Caracas, the governor will meet also with US Ambassador Patrick Duddy.




Read more: http://english.eluniversal.com/2008/04/23/en_pol_art_new-mexico-governor_23A1534721.shtml
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:25 AM
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1. This isn't LBN. The trip has been planned and publicized for some time.
Here's another article on the subject in English, from Reuters, dated 4 April:

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0445994420080404?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

    By Sue Pleming

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Seasoned negotiator Bill Richardson plans to visit Venezuela next month to discuss the fate of three American hostages held by rebels in Colombia, said a U.S. official on Friday.

    Richardson, the New Mexico governor, was in Colombia last week for talks with President Alvaro Uribe on the U.S. defense contractors held since 2003.

    State Department official Tom Shannon, the top U.S. diplomat for Latin America, told Reuters he had spoken to Richardson, who planned to visit Venezuela next month to see if he could help secure the Americans' release.

    "Governor Richardson is a skilled negotiator with a lot of experience in this field and I am sure he has a lot to offer in terms of understanding possible resolutions of the hostage situation," said Shannon in an interview with Reuters as part of a Latin American summit series....The three U.S. defense contractors being held by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, are Marc Gonsalves, Thomas Howes and Keith Stansell. They were on an anti-narcotics mission in February 2003 when their aircraft crashed and they were captured by rebels....

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:45 AM
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3. I had read about it then, too. I assumed since El Universal has it today, it means
the trip is imminent.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:25 AM
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2. Pardon, doubleclick.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 03:26 AM by MADem
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:13 AM
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4. This article indicates it's NEWS: New Mexico governor heading to Venezuela
New Mexico governor heading to Venezuela
By BARRY MASSEY Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 04/23/2008 10:37:25 AM MDT


SANTA FE, N.M.—New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson is heading off on another diplomatic rescue mission.

The Democratic governor will meet Friday with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to seek his help in securing the release of American hostages held by rebel forces in Colombia.

The Americans have been held hostage by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, since 2003. Their families asked Richardson to intervene.

The former U.N. ambassador and energy secretary during the Clinton administration visited Colombia last month and met with the country's president, Alvaro Uribe.

More:
http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_9026734


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:16 AM
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5. Governor plans humanitarian trip to Venezuela
Posted at: 04/23/2008 05:23:14 PM

Updated at: 04/23/2008 07:50:05 PM

By: Jeremy Jojola KOB-TV, and Joshua Panas KOB.com
(New Mexico)

Governor plans humanitarian trip to Venezuela

Governor Bill Richardson says he will travel to meet with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez this weekend. And on that trip, the governor hopes to rescue three Americans being held by a Colombian rebel army.

The governor says the trip is a humanitarian mission that has nothing to do with foreign relations.

He said that he will ask the Venezuelan president to help broker the release of American hostages kidnapped by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.

The governor believes Chavez can use his good relationship with the rebel army to help free the American hostages.

More:
http://kob.com/article/stories/S422500.shtml?cat=520

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:22 AM
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6. Richardson is a good man for this job.
I hope whichever Democrat ends up in the WH that there's room for this guy in the admin.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:35 PM
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8. Nope, he's burned his bridges with the Clintons. He's acting for Obama.
And this could mean that the Corporate Rulers have decided to permit at least an interim "liberal" regime here. Things aren't working out well for them in South America. Bushite policy has been a colossal failure. Paraguay just went leftist. Paraguay! Time to re-group and assay the corporate profiteering landscape. A liberal black U.S. president might cool some tempers in South America. They are very mad at us right now. This recent thing with the U.S./Colombia bombing Ecuador, and now trying to call the presidents of Ecuador and Venezuela "terorist-lovers," has been the last straw. See my post below. It appears to me that a decision has been made at Corporate Headquarters (Dubai? The moon? I dunno. Somewhere.), in favor of Obama as the best bet to cool off the potential rebellion here, and the one that has long been in progress in South America; also, to consolidate war profiteer gains in Iraq, and back off a bit in the Middle East. Otherwise, we would not be seeing Jimmy Carter in the Middle East, and Richardson (who defected to Obama, from the Clintons) visiting Hugo Chavez!

Funny thing, they've all been calling Chavez a "dictator"--when he isn't at all. Now they need Chavez to calm things down, and deal with the real article--tyrant, dictator, fascist murderer of union leaders and others--Bush's bad boy (and some are saying "psycho") in Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:12 PM
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7. This is the most fascinating bit of news I've seen in many moons.
And it's worth trying to read the entrails for what is really going on.

1. The first hostage negotiation was a set up by the Bushites and their highly corrupt operative, Uribe, to create a diplomatic disaster for Chavez. Uribe asked Chavez to negotiate with the FARC for hostage releases, then, on the eve of Chavez's first success (the release of the first two hostages), Uribe abruptly announced that he was withdrawing his permission and had the Colombian military bomb the location of the hostages as they were brought out of the jungle, driving them back on a 20 mile hike, back into captivity. I think Donald Rumsfeld may have been orchestrating this. For one thing, there appears to have been a rehearsal, some months prior, whereby a mysterious, as yet unidentified paramilitary group stalked a FARC camp where hostages were present, attacked it and deliberately shot and killed all the hostages. (The Colombian/Bushite line was that hostages were killed in a "crossfire" situation by an unknown armed group, but FARC said it wasn't "crossfire"--the hostages were targeted.) I figure this was Blackwater. Further, Rumsfeld's Washington Post op-ed ("The smart way to defeat tyrants like Chavez") was published the very weekend that this first hostage release was to occur (12/1/07), and mentions it in the first paragraph (saying that Chavez's help "is not welcome in Colombia"--but it had been welcome days before, so what I smell here is utter treachery, with perhaps a phone call from Rumsfeld to Uribe saying, "pull the plug now"). Miraculously, those two hostages were not killed. Chavez got them out a few weeks later, and proceeded to get four more hostages released--a diplomatic triumph for Chavez--amidst more treachery by Uribe.

2. Having failed to create a disaster for Chavez, the Bushites went to Plan B: How to draw Venezuela and Ecuador (both members of OPEC, with lots of oil, ergo targets for destabilization and overthrow) into a shooting war with U.S. surrogate Colombia. This plot unfolded in March. Colombia, using U.S. surveillance and ten 500 lb. U.S. "smart bombs" (and likely U.S. aircraft and personnel) bombed a FARC camp inside the Ecuadoran border, then sent troops over the border to shoot any survivors. Bodies were found in their pajamas shot in the back. Their main target was Raul Reyes, the chief FARC hostage negotiator, who was in very advanced negotiations with the presidents of France and Ecuador (and including the presidents of Venezuela and probably Argentina, and others) for the release of high profile hostage Ingrid Betancourt (Colombian/French citizen, former presidential candidate in Colombia) and other hostages. Reyes had sought a safe haven on the Ecuador side of the border, for the release of these hostages. Colombia/U.S. forces blew him away, along with more than 20 other people (including an Ecuadoran citizen and several visiting Mexican students apparently present to participate in the humanitarian mission). And they did so without the consent of the president of Ecuador.

3. The president of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, was furious. He broke off diplomatic relations with Colombia, and sent Ecuadoran military battalions to reinforce his border with Colombia. I should mention here that all parties involved in these hostage negotiations considered them the preliminary to a peaceful settlement of Colombia's 40+ year civil war between the leftist guerrillas (FARC) and Colombian fascists (now armed with $5.5 BILLION in U.S.-Bush military aid). This civil war has been disturbing Ecuador's and Venezuela's border areas for many years (deaths of soldiers and small farmers, drugs/weapons trafficking by both fascists and leftists, pesticide spraying by Colombian/U.S. "war on drugs" forces, etc.). It is in Ecuador's and Venezuela's interest to see this war ended. That is likely why Chavez initially agreed to try to get FARC to release its hostages. When the U.S./Colombia violated Ecuador's sovereignty to kill Raul Reyes, Chavez (whom Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, a week later called "the great peacemaker") rushed Venezuelan troops to reinforce his border as well--apparently to reassure Correa that he was not alone in facing U.S.-Colombia aggression, and then talked Correa out of retaliating in kind. He smelled a war trap (that's my read on it). The matter went to the Rio Group (all Latin American-U.S. not a member) and the OAS. Uribe was pressured to issue an apology and a promise never to violate international law again. The Latin American countries were unanimous in condemning the violation of Ecuador's sovereignty. The U.S. was the only holdout (at the OAS).

4. Having failed to draw Ecuador and Venezuela into a shooting war, the Bushites went to Plan C: The mystery computer. Uribe soon claimed that he had a laptop computer (then computers) seized from the bomb site, that implicated Correa and Chavez as "terrorist-lovers": Chavez giving money to the FARC; FARC giving money to Correa's presidential campaign; FARC seeking uranium for a "dirty bomb"; political leftists all over the map of Latin America colluding with the FARC, in Costa Rica, in Peru--utterly ridiculous, wild charges--based on Colombian interpretation of phrases in Raul Reyes' email correspondence, very suspect evidence that was more than likely cooked up in Rumsfeld's "Office of Special Plans in Exile" (from the Pentagon) or some other Bushite shop. It became very clear, with these Uribe charges against Chavez and Correa, that the entire hostage negotiation scheme had been set up from the beginning to slander and discredit the presidents of Venezuela and Ecuador, and draw them into hostilities--and to target anybody else they wanted to sully. Uribe fed lists of leftists' names to Interpol, which began harrying leftist groups in other countries. (--so like the crazy McCarthyite period in the U.S.--"I have LISTS!").

5. All of this was occurring in the midst of the U.S. Congress' consideration of the Colombian "free trade" deal, and amidst revelations of Colombian government collusion and coverup of the slaughter of thousands of union leaders, small peasant farmers, political leftists, human rights workers and journalists, by Colombian military and paramilitary forces with close ties to Uribe. Uribe himself just came under investigation (he is accused of being present at a meeting where one massacre was planned), as have some 60 of his political cohorts (including Uribe relatives).

6. Richardson went down to Colombia and met with Uribe about a month ago. I can't recall for sure if this was before or after he defected from Clinton and endorsed Obama. I'm pretty sure it was just before. And it worried me at the time. What was he up to, and on whose behalf? Was he trying to get this terrible Colombian "free trade" deal pushed through Congress, on Bush's behalf? On Clinton's? On Monsanto's? On Occidental Petroleum's? On behalf of major drug/weapons cartels? More recently, it was revealed that Clinton's chief political strategist, Mark Penn, has been acting as a paid agent of the Colombian government, to push the "free trade" deal. Clinton had said she opposed the "free trade" deal (it is strongly opposed by many labor unions and pro-labor Congress members), but her hiring of Penn gives that the lie. She cannot have been unaware of it. If she was, she is utterly incompetent, and I don't believe that about her. Hypocrite, yes. Clueless, no. So she was playing a double game. (Her campaign had meanwhile colluded with officials in Canada to slander Obama about NAFTA--that his aides had secretly told Canada not to be worried about Obama's public anti-NAFTA statements, but it turned out that that is not what his aides said; in context, they said that Canada wasn't the concern--Canadian "free trade" was okay; i.e., "free trade" with countries like Colombia where union leaders get murdered was the problem, not Canada. In short, Clinton-Penn were using a Karl Rove tactic, pre-emptively slandering an opponent for sins that you yourself are committing. As to both Canada and Colombia, it was the Clinton campaign that was being duplicitous).

7. Then Richardson endorsed Obama (making the Clintons very angry). Now Richardson is on a mission--presumably on Obama's behalf--to get U.S. hostages released by the FARC. He visited Uribe again. He's now visiting Chavez. (Did Uribe spurn his effort? Or was it evident that Uribe simply has no ability any more to negotiate with the FARC, given his treachery over the last five months--his scheming with Rumsfeld and/or other Bushites to turn everything into blood and mayhem, his targeting of Raul Reyes, FARC's peace negotiator, his bombing of hostages' locations, his possible collusion in the "crossfire" shootout, his lies about FARC (the "dirty bomb" thing, etc.), and his slanders against the PEACE-MAKERS--Correa and Chavez. How can FARC trust anything he says? And Uribe is furthermore up against it, himself--accused of colluding with mass murderers and death squads, and his whole career (first as Meddelin Cartel, now as Bush Cartel) resting on the Colombian "free trade" deal. He may be in the process of being dumped by the money powers in Colombia (and here?), and suffering psychosis (Rafael Correa recently called him a "psychotic"). Richardson was maybe testing the waters, trying to see what's what with Uribe, saw that there was no hope for progress (whatever that may mean to him) with Uribe. So he's going to see Chavez.

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So, what to make of all of this? Does Obama want a "free trade" deal with Colombia, but has to get their act cleaned up first? I think that's likely. A peace settlement of Colombia's civil war and a new government in Colombia would be the best of all solutions. The money powers here are anxious to profit off of corporate biofuel production in Colombia, which is ultimately why the peasant farmers are being brutally driven from the land. Oil, major illicit drugs/weapons trafficking, and boondoggle "war on drugs" profiteering, are also at issue. Colombia has oil (in FARC territory). And, of course, so do Venezuela and Ecuador (who are understandably anti-Bush, but not necessarily anti-U.S., if the U.S. would just stop trying to overthrow their democratic governments). Virtualy the entire continent of South America has been swept by a peaceful, democratic, social justice revolution. A leftist candidate for president, Fernando Lugo, just swept away 60 years of corrupt, rightwing, pro-Bush government in Paraguay. It is obvious to anyone who is not hogtied to past global corporate predator policy that these vibrant new democratic governments cannot be overthrown, and must be bargained with.

That's the most positive read on it. I don't particularly trust Richardson. I will never forget that it was Richardson who stopped the recount in New Mexico in 2004, that might have exposed the stolen election. I think he, like many corporate Democrats, may not be genuinely elected themselves, and may be complicit in the demise of our own democracy. But there is almost no one in the current Democratic leadership with clean hands. And we can't expect a revolution to happen here overnight. What are they up to in South America? Are they merely cooking up a cosmetic change--with the kind of promises that Bill Clinton made in his 1992 campaign, that he wouldn't sign NAFTA without labor and environmental protections (and then quickly broke that promise)? Will it just be more rape and ruin for South America, with a nicer face? Can we expect genuine reform from Obama--or just more "neo-liberalism" in disguise--or something in between, something that could eventually lead to genuine reform, here, better relations elsewhere, and some kind of hemispheric peace treaty/common market that promotes prosperity and fairness for everyone?

Like I said, it's like reading entrails. So much is happening out of sight of the American people, behind the scenes, beclouded with corporate news monopoly propaganda and disinformation. We can only guess about decisions that will determine our future and South America's. This is not acceptable, but it is the reality. Our own democracy is in tatters. We are ruled by global corporate predators and war profiteers, no matter which party is in power doing their bidding. Obama may be somewhat freer of these shackles than Clinton, but we should not have any illusions about who these corporate predators will PERMIT into our White House. They call the shots, not us. They may be split right now, with a segment of the Corporate Powers facing several new realities--the diminishing returns from warmongering, China's blockade of an attack on Iran (also the U.S. military balking at it), and South America's new direction away from U.S corporate rule toward independence and self-determination. But Obama cannot act independently, in our interest. It is simply not possible here, as yet.

And it still remains a question mark whether or not the American people can elect this friendlier face of capitalism and empire, if the Corporate Rulers are intent on bringing the fascist boot down on us, with a McBush junta (or something not quite so bad, a Clinton junta) (--or some more Byzantine scenario, of a "liberal" taking the blame for Bushite-created disasters, over the next four years, then they bring in Hitler II?). We do not have public control of our election results. We lost that with the fast-tracking of the "trade secret" code electronic voting systems all over the country (during the 2002 to 2004 period), with the code controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations, with virtually no audit/recount controls. We lack essential sovereign control over our fate, until we change that and restore transparent vote counting. But it may be that the Corporate Rulers are getting a bit worried about us, and our potential for rebellion. Obama's supporters are way out in front of their candidate, as to their passionate desire for reform. They are a Corporate nightmare. Obama himself is not. He is a "win-win" corporate P.R. kind of guy, with a lot of charisma. But if the Corporates go with him, it may give us some breathing room--and give a lot of oppressed people some breathing room--to work toward creating a better democracy here, and a better world.

This Richardson mission gives me some hope that the Corporate Rulers have already made their decision, that they have to back off a bit, with the fascist boots. The Bushite thing is not working. The American people and others are too resistant to it (and too onto it). They have essentially "lost" South America, and have risked all-out rebellion here. They need to put us northerners back to sleep. They may think an Obama presidency will do that. And I really, really don't think Richardson would be visiting Hugo Chavez--or Jimmy Carter visiting Hamas--without permission of the global corporate predator powers who control our government.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:18 PM
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9. New Mexico governor visits Venezuela
Published Saturday, April 26, 2008
New Mexico governor visits Venezuela

By RACHEL JONES
Associated Press Writer

CARACAS, Venezuela - New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson turned to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Saturday for help in pressing for the release of three Americans held hostage by Colombian rebels.

The Democratic governor, who was scheduled to meet with Chavez at the presidential palace, said after arriving on Friday night that he would discuss ways to advance a proposed swap of hostages for imprisoned guerrillas.

"I think President Chavez can help and can play a role in this issue," Richardson said.

The governor, who has previously served as a diplomatic troubleshooter to help free Americans in other countries, said he visited Venezuela at the request of hostages' families.

"I'm not an official envoy of the United States," he said.

Three U.S. defense contractors - Marc Gonsalves, Thomas Howes and Keith Stansell - have been held by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, since their plane went down in rebel-held jungles in February 2003.

The FARC has proposed to exchange high-value hostages for imprisoned members of the group, but the guerrillas and Colombia's U.S.-allied government have long been deadlocked over the terms.

More:
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20080426/API/804261342
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:26 PM
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10. Let's hope Colombian/US forces don't invade New Mexico
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:41 PM
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11. Really. They just might. lol
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:54 PM
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12. The shadow cabinet at work again.
The beginning of the next administration. I like the move, a few flight levels above the traffic. We've been in the dirt for such a long time.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:35 PM
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13. Chavez Is Unsure He Can Help Richardson Free U.S. Hostages
By Daniel Cancel

April 26 (Bloomberg) -- ...

``All sides need to be committed to finding a solution,'' Chavez said today in comments broadcast by state television before the meeting. ``I'm going to listen to the governor of New Mexico and hopefully we can help. I can't go to the Colombian jungle myself to rescue them'' ...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=ae6NNgHha0tM&refer=latin_america
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:37 PM
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14. New Mexico governor looks to Venezuela's Chavez for help freeing Americans
... "He's coming with the mission of trying to help in the rescue of those three Americans who are in the hands of the FARC," Chavez said in a speech, referring to the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia ...

The Spanish-speaking former U.S. presidential candidate and energy secretary said he was visiting Venezuela at the request of the hostages' families.

Three U.S. defence contractors - Marc Gonsalves, Thomas Howes and Keith Stansell - have been held by the FARC since their plane went down in rebel-held jungles in February 2003 ...

Chavez called the hostage issue "an internal Colombian problem" ...

http://www.brandonsun.com/story.php?story_id=100643
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