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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:42 PM
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Obama decides to appear on Fox Sunday Morning
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 07:44 PM by hwmnbn
Source: Fox News

Our exclusive guest this week:
• Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Democratic presidential candidate

The "Obama Watch" will finally stop this weekend when Senator Barack Obama sits down with us for an exclusive "FOX News Sunday" interview.

After a double-digit loss in Pennsylvania, how will the Senator gain back momentum in the remaining contests? While he is ahead in pledged delegates, Senator Clinton is counting on the support of the superdelegates. With such a long Democratic primary season, how does Senator Obama feel this is affecting his party and does he see the contest continuing all the way to the Democratic convention? We'll ask this and much more when we sit down with Senator Obama, only on "FOX News Sunday."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352513,00.html



IMO, this is a bad idea.

I've always thought marginalizing Fox News was a necessary step to counter thr RW noise machine.

Now Barack decides to rescind his "fuck you, FoxNews" stance and appear. I expect an ambush. It will be worse than the ABC debate.

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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:44 PM
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1. LOLS again the "double digit" talking point.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 PM
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17. 9.2 is two digits. A nine, a decimal point, and a two. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 PM by IanDB1
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:31 AM
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41. Thanks for explaining that. I'm not up to speed on this 'new math'.
Fox math. :eyes:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:44 PM
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2. Yeah, I'm not too thrilled to read this
There's zero chance it won't be a totally biased and loaded interview. So what's the point?
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:57 PM
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7. Good question. The average Fox viewer won't vote for him
no mater what he says. Maybe he wants to show them he isn't afraid of them. Should he be?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:07 PM
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10. I don't know. I'd like to think they're becoming increasingly
irrelevant. Which is why I'd like to see all Democrats boycott Fox.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 PM
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15. yup - I't like campaigning on Mars
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:37 PM
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30. Fox is on in the airport,the bank , cafes and anywhere
that people can't change the channel of the Rethug owners.

So, people can be in the bank and have open minds.

I say, go for it Obama!

Speak to the audinece and call them out on their crap.
And Sen. Obama, don't forget to do the "brush off" when they say something stupid.

It will be "our little code" so that we will know and they will know you are on to their dirty tricks!

Fired Up and Brushing Um Off!
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AvaMae Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:53 AM
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39. Fox is on in the airport, the bank....
Yes...I routinely call the front desk to ask why other news channels are not available in the rooms...

I agree with Obama's appearance... shows he's not afraid, not excluding the possibility they
are willing to work with him.

And..if think with the death of the Bush Junta, the removal of most of the republican enabelers in
Congress, Fox has to become a news channel, or go compete with Jerry Springer.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:37 AM
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52. Murdoch pays off business to show his propaganda
You cannot escape it. Fox Radio broadcasts at Ralphs markets, it's on the TV wherever I go, in fact one of the deli owners that shows it tells me that Fox gives his $500 a month to show it. the Ralphs manager also says that Fox pays them to pipe their lies over the speakers.

Obama's first action as president MUST reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and Equal time provisions that the FCC junked under Reagan.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:08 PM
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11. Not afraid, but aware....
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:47 PM
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3. I can predict very heavy editing.
When it airs he will sound like he escaped from a psychiatric hospital.Big mistake to go there.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 PM
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20. Here's an example
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:55 PM by Canuckistanian
Obama:

"Hey, I realize that there are some who say that we can't defend ourselves against an enemy who's well-entrenched and that our mission is ill-advised. But we have a responsibility to withdraw gracefully from this conflict without making a bad situation worse. I support this view"

Fox News:

Breaking news!!
Obama says "we can't defend ourselves", "our mission is ill-advised", further adding, "I support this view."
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:48 PM
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4. Why are they still calling it a double digit loss? Didn't the final numbers come in lower than that?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:31 PM
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43. Yah, but it is Fox. I think it is mandatory for them to lie (n/t)
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:50 PM
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5. makes him look desperate.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 07:55 PM by ryanmuegge
doesn't it?

i wish he'd keep his original stance, too. and you just goddamn know that fox is going to say, "he only came on fox now because his situation is more desperate. he's a punk who doesn't stick to his word," or something along those lines. basically, they'll ask him really tough questions about wedge nonsense like pasturbation-gate, flag-gate, and biter-gate AND call him a flip-flopping opportunist.

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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:56 PM
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6. Here's some more fucking spin...
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/24/obama-countdown-clock-set-to-ring-with-appearance-this-week-on-fox-news-sunday/

FOX News Sunday host Chris Wallace said the decision to launch a “count-up” clock may have helped encourage Obama’s decision to be a guest.

“We started the clock a month ago at 730 days. This Sunday it will be up to 772 days and the conversation about Obama coming on got a lot more serious after we started the count down, or the count up,” Wallace said.

He added that an Obama campaign aide had called the clock “obnoxious” when it first aired on March 16, 2008.

“It may have been obnoxious but it was also effective,” Wallace said.

...snip...

Wallace said if Obama had won Pennsylvania, he may not have accepted the invitation.

“If he had won he’d probably on a Caribbean island this weekend. The fact that he’s going to be on Sunday television and on FOX News may be an indication he figures he has to reach out to working-class Democrats, moderates and conservative Democrats and FOX News is a good place to do it,” he said.



They're already putting him on the defensive intimating he's desperate after Pennsylvania. Or he succumbed to the Fox News ObamaWatch tactic.

You know with tomorrow night's Rev. Wright interview, they'll be all over it again. But this time with Obama's active participation.

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AvaMae Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 07:59 PM
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8. Obama decides to appear..


So write them and tell them its not a double digit loss...

Flood them with complaints about their reporting...
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:05 PM
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9. They know already.....
They do it on purpose. Complaints mean nothing to them. They are the propaganda arm of the RNC, it's their job to spin RW bullshit. They may be susceptible to ratings, but having Obama on is a ratings winner.

His appearance lends credibility to this network. THAT is the mistake.



BTW, Welcome to DU, AvaMae :hi:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:11 PM
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12. Where's that "mistake" thread? This is a mistake.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:17 PM
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14. At least the interview will be with
Chris Wallace.
Wasn't it Wallace who chewed out the 'Fox and Friends' early morning folk for too much Obama bashing?
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:12 PM
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26. He backed off afterwards...
said he shouldn't have done it.

Nope, this is a big get for Wallace. He'll make his bones with Murdoch if he can fuck up Obama.

This will be a big test for Barack, I guess his campaign has a good reason to do this now. But I can't think of one right now.




Hey, I'll be watching. Maybe Obama will surprise everyone and do some offense, maybe go all "Big Dog" Clinton on 'em.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:36 PM
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46. Yeah that nutjob.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:14 PM
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13. Yep. I miss Edwards. nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:21 PM
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16. Obama had better go Jon Stewart on their asses, or I'm gonna be pissed. n/t
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:33 PM
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18. I don't agree with it but you know that most of Fox viewers are old
and some of those old Viewers may not necessarily be ideologues some may just be misinformed, Barack may be hoping he can win over some of those old voters and cut into Hillary and McCain's advantage with them.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:03 PM
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23. Fox viewers regardless of age are...
necessarilly ill informed. I predict there'll be nothing but "gotcha" questions. If Obama messes up even a bit or gets defensive, it'll be on tape, to be replayed in an endless loop. Fox will have their soundbite and his ass.

Fox viewers will NEVER, I repeat NEVER, vote for Obama. They are dittoheads that need TV pictures to assimilate the RW talking points. Fox viewers are the repug base. THERE ARE NO MODERATE REPUGS to win over. End of story.



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KansasElector Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #18
32. Generalities & Stereotypes
This thread is so full of generalities and stereotypes. Many of the people I work with have different views than me. However, I would not categorize them as being misinformed or ignorant. Quite often we cordially "agree to disagree" - but we do so usually after an extensive discussion of the issues free of playground name-calling and other pedantic behavior.

He's making a wise move by going on a news network that has more viewers than any other cable news network.

Granted, it may not be a cakewalk - but he should know that going into it. His staff should prepare him for what questions to expect and he should have answers ready for them.

For someone that is running for the highest office in the land, he should not demonstrate fear of a media outlet.

Given his lackluster performance in the most recent debate, this is an opportunity for him to show he can handle tough questions in a potentially hostile environment.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:05 PM
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34. If you watch Fox News exclusively...
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 11:20 PM by hwmnbn
you are misinformed, uninformed, and by definition, ignorant. I can prove it with specifics if you'd like.

It's nice you and your co-workers can "agree to disagree." But in my world, someone usually makes the more compelling argument about an issue. Usually it's the person who has a better grasp of the facts relevant to those extensive discussions.

I contend if you require facts, Fox is the LAST place to find them. They deal in opinion and spin, primarily RW republican talking points. They couch that spin as "news." Their viewers either don't notice or don't care.

Again the point is not to fear this media outlet, it's to de-legitimize their agenda.

Obama doesn't need Fox. The republicans need Fox.



We'll probably wind up agreeing to disagree about Obama's appearance there. LOL


BTW, Welcome to DU! :hi:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. You mean the debate that was A Clintonian "hit job" down to the perfect lighting for Wes and Chelsea
in the audience. :crazy: DAMN! Obama had to relent because Chris Wallace is a persistent beastie. :shrug:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #18
44. I don't think any Democrats should go any any Fox shows or do any iterviews with them (n/t)
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:40 PM
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19. Very bad move
His responses will be chopped up to make the worst possible soundbites
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:00 PM
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21. Not appearing won't stop anyone. By appearing he can clear up fallacies well before the GE.
Good for Obama. Take the fight to'em. Pin them down on their own territory. That takes courage.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:24 PM
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29. Except for the fact that Obama....
does not control the filming or editing. He has no say about the final product. Therein lies the power to shape the interview, not just report it. Fox is not in the news business, they are in the opinion business, big difference.

HE HAS TO TRUST Fox News to be fair and balanced in its presentation of the interview.

How has THAT worked out for dems lately?
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:22 PM
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33. Uh, he'll probably have a live interview which is crucial.
Sure, they may pull any negative clips out and use them, but he still will have had the full live interview.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:12 PM
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36. Nope, it's being taped Saturday night....
and shown Sunday morning. Lot of time to shape it.

Obama will pre-tape his appearance on Saturday from Marion, Ind., to appear on local FOX affiliate stations on Sunday morning. “FOX News Sunday” airs on FOX News Channel at 2 p.m. ET Sundays.


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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #21
48. Hillary has appeared on Fox
a few times and I don't think it has hurt her any.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:04 PM
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50. She's also cozied up to Rupert Murdoch...
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 07:08 PM by hwmnbn
who's thrown her a fundraiser. She's also kissed and made up with Richard Mellon Scaife who bankrolled the Whitewater and Lewinsky investigations, and whose media outlets villified the Clintons throughought the 90's.

Her campaign chair, Terry McCauliffe, praised Fox News on the air for being "fair and balanced" and now they're using that soundbite as a commercial.

Either Hillary has a short memory, a very forgiving heart, or I see a fucking sell-out here.

So no, it has helped her with some repugs, but when push comes to shove, they'll stab her in the back. Guaranteed.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:02 PM
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22. Hillary has dragged him down into the mud with her.
No-win situation. To Hil and all of her supporters, thanks for President mcCain. May every vile piece of filth thrown at you over the last 15 years be revisited 10 times over
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:09 PM
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24. It's a shame he feels he has to pander to the same low-life filth tha Hil's courting
Her strategy of trying to get his supporters to stay home might just work.
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H8fascistcons Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:10 PM
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25. Bad Move...
Nothing good can come from this, I won't watch the hatchet job on Obama. Fox Nazi news has a little trick they like to do, they will read something disparaging against the guest and then go to break without the guest getting a chance to respond until after the commericals...
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:13 PM
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27. I think it's a good idea
Let the freepers know the earth is not flat.

What a great opportunity.

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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:23 PM
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28. I
hope he walks out there and just knocks the shit outta wallace with a good right cross.

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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:52 PM
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31. Many right-wingers I know like Obama and will vote for him
but Clinton attacks on him and media spin have made some of them drift to McCain. These are people that hate Hillary without specific reason and lap up everything they are fed by the media, particularly FOX.

Obama's appearance on FOX will only work if he kicks ass. If he survives the inevitable ambush, right-wingers may learn to love a decent man - if they have the ability to love or the ability to recognize decency when they see it.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. WTF? You are wrong. Obama is only relenting because Chris Wallace won't stop hounding him.
The thought that ANY right wingers like Obama is BUNK on it's surface.

Too. Much. HRC. Koolaid. :(
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:30 PM
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38. I think you're wrong about....
Chris Wallace and his "pressure." Fox is having less and less influence along with the RW radio blowhards. The 2006 election was the first sign of that. Obama could've continued the boycott and not missed a beat.

There must be a reason his campaign wants him to appear. I don't know what that reason is. Maybe we'll find out after the interview.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 AM
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40. K&R to the GP.
And for the record--- it's a mistake. Fox News is totally beyond redemption.

Nothing good can come of it- NOTHING.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:41 AM
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42. And we badmouth a Republican candidate for appearing at a pro Hitler Rally..
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:42 AM by Winterblues
What is the difference? Fascists are fascists and by appearing on their network you do nothing but give them credibility..I think it is a bad move for Democracy.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:37 PM
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45. Sorry.... I won't be watching.
I'd love a swing at that little prick Chris Wallace. He'll never be a Mike Wallace.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:50 PM
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47. Ooooh, this is gonna piss Billo off!
Billo has been clamering, make that begging, even attending an Obama rally in order to interview Obama on/for his show...and then Obama finally agrees to go on Fox and goes to.... Wallace. I hope Billo goes deranged falafel king on his show tonight, it'd be pretty funny to see.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:38 PM
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49. I hate Faux noise, but I do not fear them...
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 07:39 PM by and-justice-for-all
and I think that is what Obama is doing, he knos how vial they are but if they are going to give him air time great. But their spin will be absurd I am sure.
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DemKing Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:32 AM
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51. Hahahaha FOX NEWS Got Smoked by Obama!
Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Obama smoked Chris Wallace! I have seen this now a bunch of times, when everyone is supposed to be afraid of big bad wolf of Fox News.

... and every time when you go on there, answer their questions, Fox News gets smoked! They promote this HUGE Battle and every time Fox News has lost!

Obama didn't even have to do it like Bill Clinton did, which was another smoking but in a different way, Obama just answered all their questions.

Can now Fox News finally be considered a joke! 24/7 Obama Coverage... all these Impodent White Men "Reporters" saying IF they had a chance to ask him this or that... They had ALL their questions ready and what happened - he answered them all with a smile on his face. Calm and Cool.

ALL these "Fox News vs. " Hyped events and in EVERY SINGLE ONE Fox News has lost!

The Infomercial doesn't work when you get the direct answer back ..... now have your Impotent White Man Spin it for months. Now the Old White Sheep will need their Impotent Leaders to tell them what they should think

What a Joke! 24/7 and they couldn't even make Obama even slightly sweat.
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