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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:58 PM
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Bush wants aid for religious schools
Source: delaware online

President Bush sees two major problems with inner-city education: Children trapped in low-performing public schools can’t afford to go anywhere else, and religious schools are closing because they lack students.


Bush wants to address both problems by offering low-income parents federal aid to send their children to religious and other private schools he says provide academic hope.

At a White House Summit today called Inner-City Children and Faith-Based Schools, he renewed his call for spending $300 million on “Pell Grants for Kids,” a voucher program fashioned after the popular federal Pell subsidies available to college students.

“In neighborhoods where some people say children simply can’t learn, the faith-based schools are proving the naysayers wrong,” Bush said. “One way to make sure you don’t lose schools is you have people that are able to afford the education sustain the cash flow of these valuable American assets.”




Read more: http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080424/NEWS/80424060/1006



Bush is still at it...here, there and everywhere. I just wish he WOULD GO AWAY and leave us all alone for God's Sake!

No matter how bad things were before he came on the scene, they are 100,000,000 times worse since he's been decider-an-thief.





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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:01 PM
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1. Mr. President...
Fuck off, your constitution shredding horror show of a presidency is almost over, just sit there quietly and try not to fuck up anything else!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:03 PM
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2. wait just a dang minute here..if religious schools are closing and they are PRIVATE
and PRIVATE is better than gubment...they are closing because they are NO GOOD....so now boosh wants to pimp up the religious schools with taxpayer money?? how come religions are free from taxes, regulation and given taxpayer funds, and banks are too big to fail and given taxpayer money, and halliburton and it's ilk are all fed taxpayer money..the ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PAID TAXPAYER MONEY ARE TAXPAYERS!!
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:27 PM
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6. He's always said "It's our money" right?
But ya' know he's a consistant liar don't you?

Great analogy BTW! Now I'm really, really, really, really depressed ;~)
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:33 PM
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8. sorry to get you downer than you already were...and yes LIAR he is a LIAR
as Al Franken used to say!!
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:42 PM
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10. Love Frankin's humor!
Thanks for the laugh!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:45 PM
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11. oh gawd..can't get nuff of them LOL kitties...they are indeed hillarious!
I too lol'd
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:43 AM
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28. Jesus Camp needs Ammo.....
Talibornagain and Future Blackwater employees
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:16 PM
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3. klazy
Private schools are too expensive for nearly everyone.

Public schools are mostly in bad shape because of
politics and standardized testing.

This is how elitists like Bush want it. They don't
want public schools to succeed. They want them
privatized and run like corporations.

The whole thing makes me wanna puke.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:16 PM
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4. are they including the madrases?
:sarcasm:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:27 PM
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7. Bush wants US to fund madrassas!
:evilgrin:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:26 PM
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5. Let's not get in a hurry: educators should first tell us how Bush's NCLB has worked out
After all, that is his major education initiative, and a careful assessment may yield valuable information about the quality of his policy ideas

:evilgrin:
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:36 PM
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9. Good idea, but that isn't the Con's plan
Their plan is to dumbdown and put all our children in servitude...like fighting terrorism for the corporations.

Read Bob Herbert's column...
Roughly a third of all American high school students drop out. Another third graduate but are not prepared for the next stage of life — either productive work or some form of post-secondary education.

When two-thirds of all teenagers old enough to graduate from high school are incapable of mastering college-level work, the nation is doing something awfully wrong.

Mr. Golston noted that the performance of American students, when compared with their peers in other countries, tends to grow increasingly dismal as they move through the higher grades:

“In math and science, for example, our fourth graders are among the top students globally. By roughly eighth grade, they’re in the middle of the pack. And by the 12th grade, U.S. students are scoring generally near the bottom of all industrialized countries.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/opinion/22herbert.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:47 AM
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16. By 12th grade, a lot of Europeans are in apprenticeships
or completing trade school in order to enter into the job market. We require all children to attend academic schools through the 12th grade. That is unrealistic.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:58 AM
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30. He could be listening to 'educators' in the field
like he does his generals!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:00 AM
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12. let them PRAY FOR DELIVERANCE instead of sticking everyone else nt
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:03 AM
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13. No, No. NO.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:47 AM
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17. Yea ... I wonder what McSaim thinks about this idea
Probably will go along with it don't you think?

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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 AM
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19. Sure he will.
Do you doubt it? That is a scary pic of him. Brrrrr. :scared:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:33 AM
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14. But screw public education-Our tax dollars to go instead to republican religious schools? Privatize
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 AM by LaPera
our schools for the rich to make money and educate only their kids with decent educations!

Keep the poor dumb & voting republican, so they never know their rights!

Republican "think tanks" solutions.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:50 AM
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20. Actually, this is an effort to lower teachers' pay.
On average, private schools pay much less than public schools do -- and don't offer good benefits like the pensions that public schools provide. So, the push toward private schools is actually a push toward lower salaries for teachers. There is always a money angle, always some sort of exploitation scheme, some sort of advantage for the rich in every Bush proposal.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:55 AM
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21. And to break the teahers union....Union busting republicans! Nurse's union up next!
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:58 AM by LaPera
Blame the outrageous health care in the nurses.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:44 AM
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15. How about improving their situation by raising the wages
and improving the job market for their parents?
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:08 AM
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24. You would think that would be logical
:rofl: But what is EVER logical with this bunch of republiCon theives?
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:48 AM
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18. so Bush supports more welfare
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:49 AM by Charlie Brown
as long as it's used for church-schools, and not for food, heating, and bare necessities.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:00 AM
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23. As long as it's religious & corporate (subsidies) "welfare"!
Anything but help for the people with our tax dollars.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:11 AM
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25. Separation of Church and State? The Constitution means nothing to these fascist.
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 01:12 AM by GreenTea
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:59 AM
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22. It's amazing, I thought Repubs hated socialism?
Sucking off the public teat is a no-no? Or is it really this simple: socialism is okay as long as it's for something they approve of?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:30 AM
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26. the key phrase here isn't religious- it's "and other private schools"
it's just another of many ways they've come up with to loot the u.s. treasury for their cronies.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:25 AM
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27. No public money for religion!
Every religious private school I went to had abusive administrations whose irresponsible acts are still affecting me today, some 40 years later. If you are poor, DO NOT send your child to a PRIVATE school, they will SPIT on your child's life, in a civil rights sense, and harm them forevermore.

Because of my experiences in private schools, today I'm now totally against "compulsory education"!

Dear future Democrats. UNDO public funding of Bush's "faith-based" programs!
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:51 AM
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29. So now Bush is opposed to a parent's right to home school their children in religious belief
...instead, he wants them to be recruited by the faith-based agenda of HIS choice. We all know he only provides money for "religious" schools of faiths he favors. . .

Maybe he should just use tax money to open Montessori schools. . .
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:03 PM
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31. cash flow for cronies -- another Bush earmark
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:18 PM
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32. Well, maybe he should pray harder to his invisible friend in the sky
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:58 PM
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33. obviously he did not read the Constitution..
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 01:59 PM by and-justice-for-all
oh, wait..my bad, he did and now he wipes his ass with it.

In neighborhoods where some people say children simply can’t learn, the faith-based schools are proving the naysayers wrong,” Bush said

Remember kids, Bush says a lot of things that are not true. He also breaks the law on a daily bases.
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