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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:05 PM
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Gov. Richardson meets Chavez over hostages
Source: Reuters

The governor state of New Mexico met on Saturday with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in an effort to restart talks with neighboring Colombia to secure the release of hostages held by leftist rebels.

Chavez this year helped free six hostages held for years by the Marxist FARC rebels in Colombia's four-decade old civil war, but talks have sputtered amid continued bickering between Chavez and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.

"I've had a good meeting with President Chavez ... (he) has told me that he is willing to help in this situation," Gov. Bill Richardson told reporters after the meeting.

"Many times in a conflict like this we forget the human side, that human beings are being held hostage."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080427/pl_nm/venezuela_hostages_richardson_dc
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:10 PM
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1. K and R
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:09 AM
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2.  Richardson says Chavez can help with US hostages in Colombia
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080427/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_hostages

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is "ready to help re-engage in negotiations" for the release of three American hostages held captive by rebels in Colombia, a visiting U.S. governor said late Saturday.

Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that he plans to put forward a proposal for the release of the three U.S. defense contractors in the coming weeks and that Chavez is willing to work with him as a "primary mediator."

The Democratic governor met with Chavez on Saturday night to discuss the issue. The president did not release any statements following the meeting.

(snip)
Richardson, a former U.S. presidential candidate and energy secretary, said he was visiting Venezuela not as an official envoy but at the request of the hostages' families.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:24 AM
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9. Ex-UN envoy Richardson optimistic about hostage talks
Ex-UN envoy Richardson optimistic about hostage talks
4 hours ago

CARACAS (AFP) — Former US envoy to the United Nations Bill Richardson has expressed optimism about prospects for renewing diplomatic efforts aimed at securing the release of hostages held by leftist Colombian rebels.

Richardson, who is currently governor of the southwestern US state of New Mexico, made the statement after meeting with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez at his palace.

"I felt that my meeting with President Chavez, which was nearly an hour and a half, was very positive," Richardson told reporters after he emerged late Saturday from Miraflores Palace.

He said he was optimistic about the possibility of resuming negotiations on reaching a humanitarian agreement on the hostages.

More:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j31vix9YKv6EGnNAqwpDHgHbD5Eg

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:38 AM
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3. K&R
Great story.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:52 AM
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4. No doubt, the right wing will come out blazing, calling Richardson a terrorist or something...
I mean, how can Richardson meet with another country's leader, especially one that puts our boy king in a hissy fit? This has been a bad week for democracy what with Pres Carter and now Gov Richardson-- we don't want to set a horrible precedent of talking to others... something as crazy as peace and cooperation might occur...
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:58 AM
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5. I love how governors and former presidents
Are the ones negotiating peace in this world, while the head elected official reaps the profits of his oil war.

Richardson has shown outstanding courage and ability in dealing with worldly affairs, outside of New Mexico. Ah...Obama/Richardson...
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:42 AM
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18. Jesse Jackson was successful doing this back in the '80 & 90's
but was roundly criticized for it. (Oh, please, don't accuse me of playing the "race card" again.)


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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:24 AM
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6. Let's see...
...we've got Carter in the Middle East, and Richardson down there covering South America.

Hmmm, I wonder what's Sam Nunn's doing these days?

- Hey, Condi relax! We've got it covered....

K&R!!!
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:34 PM
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19. Sam Nunn? The Creator Of DADT?
...DINO that better NOT be chosen for any presidential ticket (or cabinet post)!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:12 PM
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20. Yeah well....
...I had brain-fart. Sorry. It happens. DADT sucks big-time, but its too late to edit it. {sigh}

Of course Nunn did vote against the Gulf War, so I guess that's something. I was grasping at straws to come up with a name. Its one of the after-effects of the meds (antihistimines) I have to take in the spring for my allergies. Keeps me awake for days.

- From now on I'll wait until I've have at least 4 hours sleep before posting!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:27 AM
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7. Presidential contenders used to buff up their diplomatic credentials before they ran.
I wonder if Richardson is preparing for a VP run soon...

This is definitely the kind of diplomacy that Obama would support.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:40 AM
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8. I would love Richardson as VP.
But I would also love him as Secretary of State. I wouldn't mind someone like Biden as VP. He seems to come from a few demographics that Obama is weak on, being old and white. I think Biden would have more credibility with Obama's weaknesses, plus it could be seen as a positive that Obama and Biden are coming together after the "well spoken" controversy earlier.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:53 PM
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17. I'll take him as VP or Sec of State.
I am impressed every time I hear him speak.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:29 AM
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11. Impossible. Too much non-whiteness on one ticket. They would never win.
Like Bill Maher said: "Obama needs the whitest white man as his running mate in order to win."
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:27 AM
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12. Preferably a southern or mid-western white man or woman
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:17 PM
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15. Maybe Hillary will be available?
;)

(Actually, that would be too much non-white non-male.)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:16 AM
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10. NY Times: Chávez Agrees to Help U.S. Official Negotiate for FARC Captives
April 27, 2008
Chávez Agrees to Help U.S. Official Negotiate for FARC Captives
By SIMON ROMERO

CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chávez agreed Saturday night to help Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, a seasoned diplomat, try to win the release of three American military contractors held by Colombia’s largest rebel group, Mr. Richardson said.

In an interview after the two men met, Mr. Richardson said that Mr. Chávez, who in recent months attempted his own mediation with the Marxist-inspired Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, welcomed Mr. Richardson’s efforts to contact the rebels.

“I’m cautiously optimistic that we can re-engage the hostage negotiation process,” said Mr. Richardson, a former United States ambassador to the United Nations, who has previously won the release of captives held in Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and Sudan.

The meeting itself was exceptional, marking a rare personal encounter between and a prominent American official and Mr. Chávez, following a sharp deterioration of political relations between the Bush administration and Venezuela’s government.

The two men met for 90 minutes at Mr. Chávez’s office in the presidential palace here. Mr. Richardson said he had told Mr. Chávez that he traveled to Caracas exclusively to discuss the hostage issue. Mr. Richardson made a similar trip last month to Bogotá to meet with the Colombian president, Álvaro Uribe.

Mr. Richardson also asked Mr. Chávez to have his senior diplomats meet with the American ambassador, Patrick Duddy, in an attempt to improve ties between their countries. Mr. Chávez instructed his foreign minister, Nicolás Maduro, to arrange such a meeting, according to an official briefed on the discussion who requested anonymity because of the delicacy of relations between the United States and Venezuela.

During the meeting, Mr. Richardson gave two baseball mementos to Mr. Chávez: a vintage card featuring Luis Aparicio, a Venezuelan shortstop who won renown in professional baseball in the United States, and a baseball signed by three legendary American players, Mickey Mantle, Duke Snider and Willie Mays.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/world/americas/27chavez.html?_r=1&ex=1367035200&en=b904e2d10053c890&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Why did the editor try to play down who's in Venezuela to see Chavez? Isn't this a little ODD? "Chávez Agrees to Help U.S. Official Negotiate for FARC Captives" :wtf:

It's BYGOD New Mexico Democratic Governor Bill Richardson, you tool!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:52 PM
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16. Yup, there's a lot of sly disinformation in the NYT article.
Starting in paragraph 2:

"In an interview after the two men met, Mr. Richardson said that Mr. Chávez, who in recent months attempted his own mediation with the Marxist-inspired Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, welcomed Mr. Richardson’s efforts to contact the rebels." - NYT

Bush's boy Uribe ASKED Chavez to try to negotiate hostage releases. This likely occurred at a meeting in which Uribe was obliged to apologize to Chavez for the assassination plot against Chavez hatched in Uribe's government. It was a four hour meeting. Chavez then proceeded to contact the FARC and begin hostage negotiations--but Uribe started sabotaging him at every turn--obviously with his strings being pulled in Washington. I think now it was a set-up of Chavez from the beginning (probably designed by Donald Rumsfeld*), to hand Chavez a diplomatic disaster (with dead hostages). After asking Chavez to do this, when it was well advanced, and the first two hostages were on their way to freedom, Uribe suddenly pulled the plug, and bombed the hostages'location, driving them back on a 20 mile hike into the jungle. (Same weekend that Rumsfeld published his op-ed, "The Smart Way to Defeat Tyrants Like Chavez."*). This is how thngs went all the way to the near war that Colombia tried to start with Ecuador (and Venezuela) last month, by blowing away the camp of the chief FARC hostage negotiator, just inside Ecuador's border, killing him and 24 others, using ten 500 lb. U.S. "smart bombs" and U.S. surveillance (and likely U.S. aircraft and personnel).

Chavez ultimately got six hostages out safely, and they were released with no conditions--before the U.S./Colombia blew the FARC negotiator away--trying to fulfill his promises to the hostages families (after Uribe initially enticed him into it). To say that Chavez did this on "his own" is to entirely mischaracterize what happened.

A further little psyops in that paragraph is their throwing the word "Marxist" in it, in the part about Chavez, not about Richardson. It's sneaky, and in my opinion deliberate.

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"Mr. Richardson made a similar trip last month to Bogotá to meet with the Colombian president, Álvaro Uribe." --NYT

They don't say one word, and apparently didn't ask any questions about, what happened at that meeting! Big black hole in the article. My guess is that Uribe told him to fuck off, cuz he's got BIG PALS in Washington, and my other guess is that Uribe is getting dumped by his BIG PALS or by the global corporate predators who pull their strings, cuz he's failed at everything they told him to do, including cleaning up his image in order to push the Colombian '"free trade" deal through Congress. Just in the last month or so, protesters against the rightwing paramilitary death squads that are closely tied to Uribe, got murdered for exercising their civil rights in Colombia. The place has become Murder, Inc., when it comes to union leaders, political leftists, small peasant farmers, human rights workers and journalists.

The NYT gives not the slightest hint about what is really going on in the Andes region--with Uribe, with his death squads, with the 40+ year Colombian civil war (fascist war on the poor), with the hostage situation, with fascist/Bushite plots, with Venezuela, with Ecuador, which brings me to my third point--Richardson's request that the Chavez government meet with the U.S. (Bushite) ambassador...

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"Mr. Richardson also asked Mr. Chávez to have his senior diplomats meet with the American ambassador, Patrick Duddy, in an attempt to improve ties between their countries. Mr. Chávez instructed his foreign minister, Nicolás Maduro, to arrange such a meeting, according to an official briefed on the discussion who requested anonymity because of the delicacy of relations between the United States and Venezuela." --NYT

Why are relations so-o-o bad between the Chavez government and the U.S. Embassy? Cuz the U.S. Embassy has been running black ops, psyops and all manner of dirty tricks, destabilization plots, assassination plots, war plots, massive funding of rightwing groups, and probably drugs/weapons trafficking out of the Embassy--to topple the democratically elected Chavez government and install a fascist like Uribe who will do the Bush Cartel's bidding. This minimalist writing by the NYT--where they tell you NOTHING--is ridiculous. They're very chatty when they're running Bush/CIA "talking points" against Chavez and absurdly terse-lipped when it comes to Uribe, or POSITIVE news about Chavez.

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One last thought: Chavez and Richardson met for an hour and half. I don't believe they spent all that time talking about the hostages. This meeting may signal a sea-change in U.S. policy--possibly initiated by some of the corporations and financial interests who are being aced out of South America by the election of leftists everywhere--even in Paraguay (last Sunday). Maybe they've finally realized that the political landscape has unalterably changed, and all their dirty schemes have failed to prevent that. It may also be a mission from Obama, who is more than likely going to be the next President of the United States, and this may signal a sea change HERE--maybe not the tidal wave there, but something--maybe the global corporate predators who are running things here have decided to back off a bit on the full-on fascist state they had planned to impose, with their rigged, 'trade secret' code voting machines, and their "Alice in Wonderland" corporate news monopolies?

Did I say "Fuck you, NYT!" Let that be my final thought on their coverage of South America and the Middle East (and the voting machines!).




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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:59 AM
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13. if the FARC captives are CIA leave them there.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:28 PM
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14. K&R Condi is secretary of war doing the bidness of MIC.
Good Lord, we're in a mess.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:06 PM
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21.  Governor: Venezuela's Chavez willing to 're-engage' in negotiations to free US hostages

Governor: Venezuela's Chavez willing to 're-engage' in negotiations to free US hostages

The Associated Press

Monday, April 28, 2008
ALBUQUERQUE: Gov. Bill Richardson, back from his latest trip on behalf of U.S. hostages, says Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is ready to help restart negotiations for the release of three Americans held for five years by Colombian rebels.

"This is a very difficult negotiation because you're dealing with a rebel group that's out in the jungle," the governor told a brief news conference Sunday on his return to New Mexico. "You don't know where they are. You don't know what they want."

The governor said he saw hope for the three U.S. defense contractors — Marc Gonsalves, Thomas Howes and Keith Stansell — who have been held by the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, since their plane went down in rebel-held jungles in February 2003.

He said, however, negotiations would take time.

Richardson told The Associated Press after Saturday night's meeting with Chavez that it was "very productive." He did not divulge any specifics on how they plan to move forward.

More:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/28/america/NA-GEN-Venezuela-US-Hostages.php
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