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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:40 AM
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Iraq mass graves yield 100 bodies
Source: Reuters

BAGHDAD, April 27 (Reuters) - Iraqi security forces have found more than 100 bodies in two mass graves, military officials said on Sunday.

Fifty bodies were found in a mass grave in central Iraq on Sunday, a military source in the area said, and another team said it had discovered more than 50 bodies in a grave south of Baghdad on April 17.

The grave found on Sunday was in the village of al-Guba, 80 km (50 miles) north of Baghdad, in the troubled Diyala province, where al Qaeda Sunni Arab militants have regrouped after being driven out of other parts of the country.

Most of the bodies had their hands bound and gunshot wounds in the head. Some were decomposed, according to the military source, who declined to be named.

A senior security spokesman in Baghdad, Major-General Qassim Moussawi, said police and Iraqi military had uncovered 51 bodies in a grave on April 17 in Mahmudiya, a town 30 km (20 miles) south of Baghdad.



Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L27261344.htm
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:46 AM
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1. Nobody notices this shit while its going on? They don't know about it
until somebody stumbles on these mass graves?

Talk about oblivious.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:19 AM
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2. My bet. The Ministrey of the Interior. Or James Steele. From The Shock Doctrine
In the early days of the occupation, the Green Zone had played host to ecomonic shock therapists from Poland and Russia; now it became a magnet for a different breed of shock therapists, those specializing in the darker arts of suppressing resistance movements. The private security companies padded their ranks with veterans of the dirty wars in Colombia, South Africa and Nepal. According to journalist Jeremy Scahill, Blackwater and other private security firms hired more than seven hundred Chilean troops-many of them special forces operators-for Iraq deployment, some of whom had trained under Pinochet.

One of the highest ranking shock specialists was the US commander James Steele, who arrived in Iraq in May 2003. Steele had been a key figure in Central America's right-wing crusades, where he had served as chief adviser to several Salvadoran army battalions accused of being death squads. More recently, he had been a vice president at Enron and had orginally gone to Iraq as an energy consultant, but when the resistance rose up, he switched back to his old persona, becoming Bremer's chief security advisor. Steel was eventually directed to bring to Iraq what unnamed sources at the Pentagon were chilling calling "the Salvador option"

The Bush team had failed to shock Iraqis into obedience either with Shock and Awe or with economic shock therapy. Now the shock tactics became more personal using the Kurbark interrogation manual's unmistakeable formula for inducing regression.

Many of the important prisoners were taken to a secured area near the Baghdad International Airport, run by a military task force and the CIA. Accessible only by special ID and kept hidden from the Red Cross, the facility was so clandestine that even high-level military officials were denied entry. To maintain its cover it repeatedly changed names-from Task Force 20 to 121 to 6-26 to Task Force 145.

Prisoners were held in a small generic building, designed to create the textbook Kurbark conditions, including sensory deprivation. The building was divided into five areas; a medical exam room, a "soft room" that looked like a living room for co-operative prisoners, a red room, a blue room and the much-feared black room-a small cell with every surface painted black and speakers in all four corners.

The existence of the secret facility became public only when a sergeant who worked there, using a pseudonym Jeff Perry, approached Human Rights Watch to describe this strange place. Compared with with the bedlam of Abu Ghraib, with it's untrained guards mostly making it up as they went along, the CIA's airport facility was spookily ordered and clinical. According to Perry, when interrogators wanted to use "harsh tactics" against prisoners in the black room, they went to a computer terminal and printed out a form that was a kind of torture menu. "It was all already typed out for you," Perry recalled "environmental controls, hot and cold, you know, strobe lights, music, so forth. Working dogs...you would just check what you want to use off." When they completed the forms, the interrogators took them to a superior officer for authorization. "I never saw a sheet that wasn't signed."
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:53 AM
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4. If it's in their computer then of course they would approve it.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:26 AM
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3. SO those were fresh graves a year ago ?
What do the forensics reveal ? No mention of that in the article, only a hint of;

...al Qaeda Sunni Arab militants have regrouped after being driven out of other parts of the country.

Most of the bodies had their hands bound and gunshot wounds in the head. Some were decomposed, according to the military source, who declined to be named.


they return to the scene of the crime to execute those who pointed out the graves.
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