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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:43 PM
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Dad's video of run-down barracks sparks military response
Source: CNN

The U.S. military is promising action to address conditions in a barracks at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, after a soldier's father posted images on YouTube showing a building that he said "should be condemned."

"This is embarrassing. It's disgusting. It makes me mad as hell," Ed Frawley said of the building where his son, Sgt. Jeff Frawley, had to live upon his return this month from a 15-month deployment to Afghanistan.

Frawley said Monday that Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Dick Cody called him to say he shares Frawley's anger and that "there's no excuse." Cody said he would not want his own sons or any troops to return to such conditions, Frawley said.

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Paint -- which Frawley said is lead-based -- is chipping. Ceiling tiles are missing. A broken drain pipe allows sewer gas into the building, while another one has tissues stuffed into it in an apparent effort to stop the gas from coming in.

Photos from the communal bathroom show some of the most disgusting images. In one, a soldier stands in a sink to avoid what Frawley describes as 3 inches of sewage water that filled the floor when toilets overflowed.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/28/barracks.bragg/index.html




A soldier battles overflowing sewage in the Fort Bragg barracks shortly after coming home from Afghanistan.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:46 PM
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1. We're fighting them over there, so we don't have to maintain our buildings over here? n/t
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:48 PM
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3. We must be using the same contractors we used in Iraq
More than a year after the Parsons Corporation, the American contracting giant, promised Congress that it would fix the disastrous plumbing and shoddy construction in barracks the company built at the Baghdad police academy, the ceilings are still stained with excrement, parts of the structures are crumbling and sections of the buildings are unusable because the toilets are filthy and nonfunctioning.

The project, where United States inspectors found giant cracks snaking through newly built walls and human waste dripping from ceilings, became one of the most visible examples of a $45 billion American reconstruction program that is widely seen as a failure.

The project also became an argument for the value of government oversight when, in response to the inspectors' findings, a Parsons executive told Congress in September 2006 that the company would fix the problems at no cost to the United States. Parsons now says that it did so, directing an Iraqi subcontractor to correct deficiencies at no additional charge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/05/us-contractor-leaves-ir_n_71300.html
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:41 AM
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36. Ahh,, Parsons -
that's a name I haven't had to deal with in a while. Last I heard, they were indeed trying to get some no-bid construction contracts in Iraq listing Kellogg, Brown and Root as their sub-contractor.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:48 PM
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2. Maybe they should house the top brass in there
betcha the conditions will change quickly.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:56 PM
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4. I'd still like to know what happened to all those soldiers
wasting away in mold-infested barracks while recovering from devastating wounds across the street from Walter Reed Hospital.

Did they ever come up with a plan to make sure those soldiers were taken care of properly?

I did 8-1/2 years Active Duty Army and 9 years in the Army Reserves. I'm a veteran of the first Gulf War and it pisses me off to know that these soldiers are being jerked around and screwed out of their medical benefits by a C-in-C who would rather continue to give tax cuts to the rich rather than take of the people that do this nation's bidding!
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:04 PM
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5. Here's the YouTube video
Barracks for Charlie CO 2/508 82n Airborne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46vYZFU1Dew

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:05 PM
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6. strange...it seems like the bigger the pentagon budget is
the more the quality in our military facilities/equipment resemble russia's
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:39 PM
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7. Maybe the Pentagon will just bomb the place.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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8. Dad's video of run-down barracks sparks military response
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:56 PM by maddezmom
Source: CNN

CNN) -- The U.S. military is promising action to address conditions in a barracks at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, after a soldier's father posted images on YouTube showing a building that he said "should be condemned."


A soldier battles overflowing sewage in the Fort Bragg barracks shortly after coming home from Afghanistan.

1 of 2 "This is embarrassing. It's disgusting. It makes me mad as hell," Ed Frawley said of the building where his son, Sgt. Jeff Frawley, had to live upon his return this month from a 15-month deployment to Afghanistan.

Frawley said Monday that Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Dick Cody called him to say he shares Frawley's anger and that "there's no excuse." Cody said he would not want his own sons or any troops to return to such conditions, Frawley said.

Frawley's 10-minute video shows still photos from throughout the building, which appears to be falling apart and filled with mold and rust.

Paint -- which Frawley said is lead-based -- is chipping. Ceiling tiles are missing. A broken drain pipe allows sewer gas into the building, while another one has tissues stuffed into it in an apparent effort to stop the gas from coming in.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/28/barracks.bragg/index.html



http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/28/barracks.bragg/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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9. Their response will probably be to confiscate all cameras
and punish any soldier whose family posts video like this.

BTW -- what does the military do with the hundreds of billions of dollars they steal from taxpayers?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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10. Yet another example of chickenhawk Republicons screwing our soldiers
What is is with republicons. They mince around with their flag lapel pins, made in China -- and they screw our sons and daughters in uniform, and our veterans.

Ptooey on the republicon chickenhawk Administration.
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tsdraegeth Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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11. .
It is absolutely disgusting that after fighting so hard to bring freedom, peace, relaxation, and sanitary conditions to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, our soldiers should have to live somewhere that is dirty or filthy, let alone dangerous. We must immediately take action to protect them from this inhumane treatment that they did nothing to deserve.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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12. Oh so that's why we're over there...
to bring them freedom.... snarf
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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13. Write your candidate
Either one of them would love to get some press on this and do some good in the process.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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14. After fighting so hard to WHAT????!!
Holy shit, WTF are you smoking???!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:33 PM
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43. He didn't say *successfully* fighting for 'em... (nt)
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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15. "freedom, peace, relaxation, and sanitary conditions to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan"
In what parallel Universe do you live ?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:52 AM
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45. Hah.
Edited on Sat May-03-08 01:55 AM by quantessd
In your fucked up mind you think people at DU hate the troops.
Just look at what John McCain has in mind for the troops. His actions speak louder than words, and his actions in Congress say the American soldiers are disposable.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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16. K&R
That's truly disgusting! :grr:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:40 PM
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17. K&R. This is disgusting. Billions of dollars to kill, but returning soldiers have to live
in conditions worse than when they were in Iraq!??!

I wish I could say what I really think Bush and his henchmen deserve.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:42 PM
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18. give it another kick
I duped :hi:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:55 PM
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20. Sure.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:48 PM
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19. The bathrooms in my kids' elementary schools looked like that too
WTF is wrong with this country? Can't we take care of the most basic business?
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:18 PM
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21. The Defense Department is calling Halliburton right this moment.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:40 AM
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35. Yes Halliburton will call Roto-Rooter Asap
And bill defense in a Cost Plus Manner

LOL
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:27 PM
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22. Maybe some of the funds they are attempting to get for the war is going to this fort ?
What do you think?
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:44 PM
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23. Probably needs a new drainfield too.eom
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:19 PM
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24. Seems to me this would be pretty good fodder
in an election, especially in being in N.Carolina.


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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:35 PM
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25. Jesus H Christ
Just when you think it couldn't get any worse...WTF, where is the media (again!!!!!!)????
There is a special hell for these neocons who did this to OUR Country and take things to this level. Makes me SICK!
K & R to keep it at the top
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:58 PM
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26. Where is our media
Dragging a black pastor through the mud! Or covering kids from the polygamists in Texas.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:03 PM
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27. I know, I know...
I know what they are covering...I am just so fucking weary of it all.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:42 PM
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29. They're playing tennis with the war-enriched republicon Mercenary Armies
While our regular Armed Forces are neglected.

What's wrong with this picture?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:33 PM
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39. Sorry, they're all busy chuckling and applauding at the Correspondents' Dinner
Don't want our camera moths to stray too far from the Beltway flame, now do we?

:mad:
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:06 PM
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28. Hey, it's the Army, they're supposed to be TOUGH!!!
Yes, it's :sarcasm:

You had to ask? :D
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:43 PM
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30. "They have the slowest contractors in the world," this says. I wonder
which Bush/Cheney cronies got paid to not to this job?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:46 PM
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31. The father said they went for 8 weeks in Afghanistan without a shower.
No doubt back home it'll be longer than that before they'll want to use the showers in this building.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:57 AM
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32. Low-rank facilities officers will have their careers terminated, but the top brass
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:12 AM by bean fidhleir
will be fine

(edit) It turns out that their facilities head is a civilian. I wonder whether he's connected to Halliburton/KBR. I also wonder whether he'll skate and his boss, the garrison commander colonel, will take the rap instead.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:30 AM
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33. I don't care if the "facilities head" is a civilian, it's the
garrison commander's responsibility to take care of his subordinates. He should be fried!
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:53 AM
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34. The colonel should take a hit, certainly. My question is whether
the civilian is connected and will thus escape any consequences.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:03 PM
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41. There is very little justice in this world, the question i ask
myself is: Does it really matter?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:10 AM
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37. This was featured on CNN Headline News yesterday.
I saw it about 10 or 11 am Pacific Time.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:08 PM
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38. Support the troops
The top brass and the boy cic,shadup,you furnish you three hots and a cot,what more do you want.?
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:50 PM
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40. Talliburton's values in action
gotta love those patriotic neocons:mad:
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:12 PM
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42. Check out this comment left at youtube:
"...Just heard from someone at Bragg that Charlie company was PUNISHED FOR REPORTING these conditions by having their leave cut and being forced to use the lost days of leave cleaning the barracks again.

If I HAD been planning on voting Republican, THIS would be enough to change my mind."
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:18 PM
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44. Here's hoping that the miltitary doesn't take it out on his son.
Don't be surprised if he's re-deployed by the end of the week!

:eyes:
rocknation
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:45 AM
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46. Seems like annual event, rundown barrack stories, outrage, soldiers punished, no further action. nt
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