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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:07 PM
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Hillary Clinton's aides prepare to concede
Source: Telegraph UK Washington Bureau

Howard Dean, the Democratic National Committee chairman, said the nomination would be decided this week: "We don't want to go to the convention, have a big fight at the convention, and lose the presidency."


Hillary Clinton's aides prepare to concede

By Toby Harnden in Washington Last Updated: 11:46PM BST 01/06/2008

Senior advisers to Senator Hillary Clinton have prepared the ground for her to abandon her 2008 presidential ambitions within days and not dispute the Democratic nomination all the way to the party convention in August.

Although she won by a wide margin over Barack Obama in yesterday’s Puerto Rico primary - with 85 per cent of the vote in, she was leading by 36 percentage points - the former First Lady made no mention in her victory speech of taking her fight beyond this week.

Instead, she made a final appeal to some 178 uncommitted super-delegates” - party officials whose convention votes are not tied to the primaries - that she would be the stronger general election candidate against John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

...Last week, Mrs Clinton said she expected undecided super-delegates to make up their mind quickly after Tuesday. Her rapidly fading hopes rested on her being able to persuade 90 per cent of them to overturn Mr Obama's delegate lead because of her contention that she would be the stronger candidate against Mr McCain.
Mr Obama indicated on Saturday night that he thought Mrs Clinton, in consultation with her husband Bill, would concede this week so that the party could unite against Mr McCain.

...more at the link





Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/democrats/2062606/US-Elections-Clinton-aides-prepare-the-way-for-her-to-concede.html
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:09 PM
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1. Oh my, what are her crazed followers going to do when she drops out and gets behind Obama?
I really don't think they're ready, I think they're going to go nuts and attack her.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:12 PM
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5. Both candidates have been taking the high road for some time. Please let's follow suit.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:14 PM
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6. I'm glad you limited it to candidates and not her spouse, or her
top aides. I like the whole idea of truth coming through.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:05 PM
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18. not to mention
Obama's spiritual advisers. O8)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:31 PM
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12. I agree.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:25 PM
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25. Lying about Tuzla and NAFTA is the high road? Race-baiting to harm Obama is the high road?
Are you fucking serious?

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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:19 PM
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29. Continuing to swiftboat Hillary isn't going to unify anybody. ....
Come on, give it a rest, will ya?

:shrug:
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:09 AM
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34. I mean since Indiana / No. Carolina, it feels like aftershocks, not the quake anymore.
I had been so disappointed by Hillary for some time that I avoided hearing her whenever possible. But I did watch her response to IN and NC. It was a little silly that it seemed like a victory speech, when IN was essentially a tie and NC was a trouncing. However, she used language that sounded like Obama's. Was this appropriating his message? No, I interpreted it -- generously, perhaps -- as a gracious step towards unity, like she was open to backing out and letting her devotees switch over to Obama, rather than spitefully moving to McSame. There seemed to be come dogwhistle language in the Kentucky campaign.... They're still keeping a campaign going, but it seems to me that the most of the below-the-belt nonsense of months past is over. Maybe it's gone underground or I'm not hearing it on NPR. But the bile that remains on DU *seems* to be coming from old wounds, not new developments. Aftershocks. Baggage. So if we take everything at face value, with caution, maybe we can work toward unity and that General Election victory that seemed inevitable half a year ago.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:44 PM
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27. That argument is so destroyed before you even posted it... just saying =/
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:40 PM
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22. Was that needed?
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 11:05 PM
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30. have you ever seen "Scanners"?
it'll look like the aftermath of a Gallagher show......
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:10 PM
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36. If Obama picks a woman like Sebelius as his running mate, ...
all will be forgiven. And she's a good Obama supporter.

Of course, it's also said that the same will be true if he picks a male who has supported Hillary; but I wonder about that.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:10 PM
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2. Please..........This has been a marathon.
Everyone's exhausted. Let's move on.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:10 PM
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3. Please let that happen so we can get on with trouncing McSames ass instead...
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 06:12 PM by LakeSamish706
of beating up on each other...

We need to take this White House back so that we can get this country turned around and back in a positive direction.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:11 PM
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4. I hope this is true....
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:15 PM
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7. I'm going to say that this time I do believe she will bow out this week.
There was something in her voice at the end of her speech in Puerto Rico that made me take notice.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:19 PM
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8. I think she will also.
I guess we'll see?
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:20 PM
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9. I really hope so too! N/T
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:27 PM
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10. Welcome
:hi:
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:41 PM
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15. Thank you MzMolly! N/T
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:31 PM
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13. You will pardon me if I don't trust her words...
Only her actions,
I want to see what she does after wednesday

In her speech she talked about PR being able to vote in the GE during her second term

that is not the speech of someone about to quit.
time will tell
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:30 PM
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11. I wonder, I really wonder if when she goes to sleep
at night if she reflects upon all the horrible things she has done in her quest, her obssessive quest to win at all costs no matter how reprehensible or how damaging to her own party and to an opponent in the same party.

Ya think? I don't. I think it more likely she sleeps like a baby.

May she just fade away to Chappaqua, or Arkansas or wherever the hell is her home. May we be spared any more of Hillary Clinton and her running mate Bill.

They have enough money to live out their lives in comfort. Enjoy, Mr and Mrs. Clinton and Chelsea but please just fade out of this political arena. You are not going to be welcomed in too many places after this horrible primary campaign you have launched.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:33 PM
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14. I believe she will do the right thing.
And like a First Lady she will do it honorably. And like many others have commented on this board, she will give Senator Obama the full respect and support him whole heartedly.:thumbsup:
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:46 PM
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16. Maybe they want to go somewhere to get paid...
...somewhere like the Obama campaign.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:55 PM
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17. Our chances in November depend a great deal on Hillary's behavior.


She can actively campaign for the Democratic candidate and quash the harmful delusions of her surrogates, or she can help elect Republicans.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:08 PM
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19. Somehow I don't see her doing that
She has established herself as a vindictive, bitter and destructive candidate. She will carry the grudge beyond this primary, imo. She and Bill will resist and will "fight" to the age of eighty, if either of them live that long.

I believe they are already in the "old' bin , ready to be donated to Good
Will or any other used clothing charity. I also believe that she will be up against a competitor far more savvy than she to challenge a re-election to the Senate successfully.

She has desgraced herself and so has "he" her running mate. Pity that.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:37 PM
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21. I respectfully disagree with you, Malva. She loves this country.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:33 PM
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38. She already said, on camera, that McSame's the better candidate.
We don't have to wait to see who supportive she'll be.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:21 PM
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20. i'll believe it when i see it.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:45 PM
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23. Does this mean there IS a God?
If I have to hear her grating, whining voice on television or
radio one more time, I will jump off the nearest bridge.

Her tirades actually annoy me even more than the shrub's endless
twisting and mangling of the English language.
Is that possible?

BHN
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:15 PM
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24. She can hear the band warming up. Yeah, she knows this number
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 08:18 PM by ohio2007
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:18 PM
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28. i love jimi's version of this song.
thanks for the memories.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:59 AM
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32. I know you'll like this Monte Montgomery ten minute tribute
Save this one ;)
Little Wing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31QQ1gNpAaY

RIP Jimi
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:20 PM
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37. i loved monte thanks
i listened to the sultan of swing also. went to the myspace-he doesn't come anywhere near me. wow he made the guitar speak to me, would love to see him live. thanks again.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:27 PM
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26. Your response is typical in regard to us Hill supporters, so what is there
to say at this point except that Obama is a smart candidate and politician, even if his supporters are NOT...smart that is!
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:34 AM
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31. If we finally have a single candidate that will be up against McCain, I'll have a question...

What is the maximum that I can donate? I will never donate money for one Democratic candidate to use against another.

But I'll scrounge up the maximum for them to use against McCain, and I'm unemployed.

If it's this week, awesome. If it's later, fine. But I sure would like it to be sooner rather than later. McCain has had it way too easy for way too long.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:02 AM
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33. There are 178 SD's left and she needs over 200. Why even bother 'fighting' at this point?
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 08:03 AM by electron_blue
Also,w hat's to prepare to concede. The plug can be pulled immediately.

I guess we should know a lot more by the end of this week.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:10 AM
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35. I will believe her when I hear her words and actions working as a united force against
McCain. All I have seen thus far is a candidate that knew she could not win and has done everything she could do to rally her supporters to be as divisive as possible..that appears to be an ego booster I guess..her idea of a consolation prize. I hope I am wrong about Hillary.
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