Bill Clinton Accuses Obama of Using Priest to Attack Hillary

[katerinasmommy]

Source: Huffington Post

"The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her"

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/bill-clinton-purdhum-a-sl_b_104771.html

[slinkerwink]

1. That doesn't work since Obama personally apologized to Hillary in his phone call to her

on Sunday.

[Pirate Smile]

6. Bill is really helping things a lot. Here is what he said about Obama.

"You know he didn't use a single name, cite a single source in all those things he said. It's just slimy. It's part of the national media's attempt to nail Hillary for Obama. It's the most biased press coverage in history. It's another way of helping Obama. They had all these people standing up in this church cheering, calling Hillary a white racist, and he didn't do anything about it. The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her. So then they saw the movie they thought this is a great ad for John McCain-- maybe I better quit the church. It's all politics. It's all about the bias of the media for Obama. Don't think anything about it."

[Gman]

25. Bill is exactly correct

anyone that denies it is in, denial.

[Pirate Smile]

42. Anyone who thinks Obama would have ever wanted a Priest to get up at Trinity and say that kind of

crap is delusional.

[Blaq Dem]

80. The priest's comment was extremely blatant

Why would Obama want that crap to come out? Unlike Hillary, Obama wanted the primaries to be about the issues. It was her who picked at every little thing that came up. She even dogged him about his bowling.

[primavera]

85. ... or seriously paranoid

Watching this campaign unfold, I've been astonished by how willing the Clinton camp is to believe that Obama has personal control over every word spoken by every person on the planet with respect to Hillary. To hear the Clinton camp talk, you'd think that every critical word ever spoken about their candidate was carefully scripted by Obama. I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but there are lots of Americans who independently reach their own conclusions about Hillary. Btw, this opinion is NOT paid for by the Obama campaign.

[EFerrari]

74. As Hillary's bad copy, he'd know, wouldn't he? n/t

[beac]

39. says Bill as he slimes Obama for Hillary...

I am so O-V-E-R Bill Clinton and his 24-hour pity party.

[timtom]

76. Thank you.

I was hoping to find a post like this.

Now I don't have to compose one. Yours says it for me.

[HatoriHanzo88]

79. He is both right and a hypocrite.

Bill has a good point here in the corruption of the relationship between politics and the media. It seems to me that Obama, though he is a favoured candidate of mine, seems to cast a blind eye to the corruption that goes in his favour, but is outraged otherwise.

However, the same can be said for Hillary, so it is pointless in Bill coming out and making such accusations because to people who know anything about Clinton; hes gonna look a hypocrite.

Two words: Karl Rove. I read a pro Clinton article in British newspaper The Times not so long ago written by Karl Rove, and they seemed to tie together quite nicely. Not to mention her hypocrisy in being a former Wal-Mart lawyer, whilst claiming to represent the working class sections of America.

I quite like Bill Clinton, even though he is a liar and a murderer for denying what happened in Waco, and denying his fun times with Lewinsky, I still think he has been one of the best things to come out of politics in the United States sinse the days of FDR.

His wife, on the other hand, is not.

[papau]

83. that does work because of the history of Obama using David to send out smears of Hillary

[Bake]

84. Easy to apologize once the damage is done.

Some things are easier to get forgiveness for, than permission for.

Bake

[saigon68]

2. WOW

[keep_it_real]

3. Bill is such a liar

[Blaq Dem]

81. He's sexually repressed

Long time without sex? He has "needs" too.

[TwilightGardener]

4. What a fucker he is. I believe every word they say about him, starting now.

Guess what Bill, the world found out that you still can't keep it in your pants, you fucking overrated lecherous piece of shit.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Take him off the field

He has become a total embarassment.

[babylonsister]

7. The big dawg is sure getting his targets mixed up; is he

berating Todd Purdum or Obama? Hard to tell... And isn't Mayhill Fowler the person who inspired 'Bittergate'?

[katerinasmommy]

10. Oh its about Obama

Read the entire thing in context

[babylonsister]

11. I realize that, but he started off on Todd and then

'inserted' Obama in the middle of it. I guess it's de rigeur for Bill to blame everything on Obama.

[katerinasmommy]

15. Yeah I guess he was pissed

He started getting things mixed up in there

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

50. Billary is totally confused by the sniper fire and the corkscrewing

He thought he was in Bosnia

talking about Jessie Jackson and how he ran a good race like Senator Obama

and he is over-tired and sleep deprived

and that Obama guy does look a lot like those news guys

it is so confusing when you have to sort through so much experience to be ready on day one

give poor Bill a break

[ErinBerin84]

8. does anyone find it strange

that this is another piece by MAYHILL FOWLER? Lol. I'm not saying it was a set up and Clinton of course wouldn't have said those things to her until he really wanted to, but...it's like she is a Republican operative or something trying to encourage division in the Democratic party. It makes me sad that Bill would say this, when the General election primary board is trying to forge some sort of unity, slowly but surely.

[DJ13]

9. "Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime.."

You mean like Carville, Begala, Ickes, Wasserman Schultz, Ferraro (do I need to keep going?).......

[Pirate Smile]

56. Who gave that little speech about putting on your pads and sometimes you get clipped and you don't

whine about it? Oh, yeah, Bill. Plus this didn't even come from Obama. It hurt Obama and he didn't even say it. It was in no way helpful to Obama.

[godai]

12. The Comeback Kids just can't accept losing.

He can't accept that they have been outmaneuvered thoughout the campaign. Old style politics with a new generation of politicians didn't work this time. Hopefully it also won't work in the GE.

[C_U_L8R]

13. Besides the priest was just lifting Amy Poehler's act from SNL

both were kinda funny

[ErinBerin84]

14. plus, if this story gets more media coverage

"Mayhill" (god, just stay out of our lives, Fowler), is posting audio soon- doesn't it just focus more attention on the vanity fair article? It's like he can't have a measured response to anything. It would have been much better politically if he just said that the article consisted of so many ineuendo and falsehoods, that it's not even worth dignifying with a response, except to say that it was a lapse in journalistic integrity. He just gets so angry in these interviews.

[Pirate Smile]

16. Just imagine Obama and Clinton on a ticket with Bill's fury at Obama going off sporadically.

Ugggghhhh.

[beac]

40. Him-bo eruptions!

;)

[Orrex]

17. Next he'll accuse Obama of a guided missal attack

"The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her"

Father Slimer. That's a good one!

[DRoseDARs]

18. I'm surprised you didn't go for the obvious sniper fire joke...

...I wouldn't put it past Hillary, though. ;)

God, let this shit end tomorrow. McCain's ass is ready and rarin' to get pwned in the General Election.

[Orrex]

20. I've been holding onto that "missal" pun for years

Hell, I might just wind up voting for Clinton, out of my gratitude at finally getting to use the joke!




Well, probably not...

[katerinasmommy]

21. I'm surprised someone hasn't said

"I gotcher guided missle right here" It IS Bill we are talking about

[Pirate Smile]

19. Anderson Cooper just read the comments - including the more extended attack on Obama - on

the air at the beginning of 360 - it is "Breaking News". I also know that audio is supposed to be coming out.

[grytpype]

22. Thank GOD this is all going to be over tomorrow!

[MannyGoldstein]

23. Bill Clinton Is Human Refuse

Seriously - the first President to institute torture as national policy. No moral depth is too deep for him to plumb.

Not a word out of his head is truthful, except by accident.

[Vattel]

24. well, to be faIr to Bill,

the Obama campaign did get the media to slime Hillary with respect to the RFK remarks. And there was that memo in South Carolina. I think Bill is justifiably pissed.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

48. Just plain wrong. Not even close

You are making a Hila-Speak Bosnian argument. The facts prove otherwise. Facts are so un-Hila-Speak. The media was alarmed when Hillary legitimatized assassination as a Presidential topic and went to press before Team Obama even knew about it.

Unlike Hillary's constant whining about Rezko, Wright, leaving the church, anything she could slime Senator Obama with, Senator Obama brushed this one off politely just like he has with all of the rest of the Hillary-Billary slime.

[Vattel]

63. the NY post

first suggested something dark about the RFK remark, and the Obama campaign spread it around, according to the NY Times:
(Seeyle, (5/26/08): "Shortly after Mrs. Clinton spoke on Friday, the Obama campaign jumped on the story, sending an e-mail message to reporters saying her comment had no place in a presidential campaign. It linked to a online report in The New York Post that said Mrs. Clinton was ''making an odd comparison between the dead candidate and Barack Obama—a phrase the newspaper later dropped."

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

77. Yes, your qoute is correct. It was your opinion I questioned

You wrote in defense of Bill Clinton, "the Obama campaign did get the media to slime Hillary with respect to the RFK remarks." No where close to what the NYT writer opined.

Your subsequent NYT quote does clarify that:

1) The NY Post ran the story, not the Obama campaign. The media had the story
2) The Obama campaign rightfully responded to the media, calling her remark "unfortunate" just as she herself did later. Yes, they were correct that the comment had no place in a presidential campaign, which Hillary herself later confirmed.
3) The NY Post (as well as most other outlets) very quickly dropped not only the line which offends you, but the entire story. Just as Senator Obama and his chief spokesmen asked them to.

While Bill and Hillary have spewed slime personally throughout this campaign, the latest example being Bill's attempt to blame Hillary's failures on Senator Obama and the press, Senator Obama as usual gave Hillary a clear, prompt, and public pass for her assassination reference.

Perhaps one of the reasons the NY Post and others began to bury the story so quickly was the rapid response graciously accepting Hillary's poor apology by Senator Dick Durbin and shortly after by Senator Obama himself.

The handling of that Hillary gaffe, mis-statement, over-tired, whatever by Team Obama is so unlike her very slimy handling of Dr. Wright.

Yes, Dr. Wright managed to be reserected and crucified again for 36 news cycles. At every opportunity Hillary managed to push the guilt-by-association as "news" and then do her "Who? Me?" act.

So yesterday Bill goes off on one more of his ever-increasing rants, blaming all their joint woes on Senator Obama and the press.

I really don't care a whit about some NYT writer's opinion and analysis of the issue. If you have links to show words coming out of Senator Obama's mouth which can even remotely equate to the vile slime from Hillary and Bill, then post them. Otherwise just accept that Bill slimed his way to the top of the news again yesterday (and did admit his immature behavior by the way).

[Vattel]

82. you need to get your facts straight

You are correct that the Obama campaign did not get the NY Post to slime Clinton over the RFK remark. They only got the rest of the media to do it by sending out their little email claiming that such a remark had no place in a presidential campaign and linking to the Post story. On your view this was not an attempt to get other media people to report on the story. That strikes me as rather naive.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

87. And after first Maggie, then Hillary herself admitted...

that the remark was "unfortunate,"

your are suggesting that this was NOT news.

Senator Durbin and Senator Obama managed to dismiss this one within 48 hours (on a slow-news holiday weekend no less).

This is only my personal opinion, but those words of a candidate, put to rest by the other candidate on a holiday weekend, are far more important to judging candidate attitudes then were, for example, the 36 news cycles of guilt-by-association over Dr. Wright which Hillary herself pushed and prodded.

So if my views strike you as naive, your observations are duly noted.

[Heather MC]

26. Please Obama Don't Put this Man or his wife anywhere near your administration

[Nancy Waterman]

27. Clinton is out of control and an embarrassment

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carol-felsenthal/bill-clintons-sad-respons_b_104601.html

It is too bad he had to lose it right at the end and embarrass Hillary yet again.

Many of Purdum's charges -- the business conflicts, the glitzy, inappropriate friendships, the assertion that Bill has been nothing but a drag on his wife's campaign-- are well taken; I make them in my book, and I do believe that when the history of this Hillary/Obama race for the nomination is written, Bill Clinton will be seen as one of the key reason his wife lost. "The first black president" managed to turn African Americans who were supporting Hillary by large margins into almost unilateral Obama supporters. I also believe, as my chapter heading, "Philanderer in Chief" makes clear, that Clinton out of the White House is still the same undisciplined playboy that he was in the White House.

[CreekDog]

28. Why would Obama do something that would hurt him?

like some crazy guy in his old church, making offensive fun of Hillary was something Obama would do to help him win?

frankly, that's more like the Clinton campaign playbook.

[Vattel]

29. People sliming the Clintons

with charges of racism and race-baiting has, I suspect, made a substantial contribution to Obama's winning the nomination. I am not blaming Obama himself for this, though. And I find it hard to believe that Obama encouraged Phlegmer's remarks.

[katerinasmommy]

32. And yet, Bill accused him of it n/t

[CreekDog]

33. Obama figured out that going negative makes you look bad, especially within primaries

this is too stupid for him to have encouraged.

[Vattel]

35. well it didn't seem to hurt him

to spread the NYPost RFK nonsense all over the media

[DeSwiss]

52. Hillary? Is that you???

[katerinasmommy]

30. posted twice in error

[katerinasmommy]

31. lol no kidding

And upon reflection, I am not so sure those RFK remarks were all that innocent. Most people would hesitate, even in reference to something else, to bring up assasination and a live person together. That's the normal reaction. If that's not her normal reaction and she really did err misspeak, then it's even more frightening.

[Vattel]

34. huh?

she didn't mention Obama in her comments about RFK, and she didn't misspeak.

[CreekDog]

36. you seem to be assuming the worst, most caluculating motives from Obama

and total naivete and charitability in Clinton's comments.

if i'm to believe your comment, then what kind of intelligence does it indicate Clinton has that she can say things that so easily get turned back on her (things she could have avoided)?

and what kind of intelligence would it indicate in Obama if he could get Clinton to say things that would hurt her, get others to say things that would hurt her --and she can't do a thing about it?

i don't agree with your interpretation, but if i did, it wouldn't indicate anything very intriguing about Clinton's abilities anyway.

[Vattel]

41. I;m not assuming anything about Obama

I am only claiming on the basis of what I read in the NY Times and elsewhere that his campaign spread the RFK nonsense around. And you don't remember 2000 if you think it isn't easy to smear someone by reading into their remarks, distorting them, etc. Almost the whole press corps jumped on the "Gore is a liar" bandwagon, oncluding liberals at the Post and the Times.

[katerinasmommy]

38. Come now

She didn't have to mention Obama literally with the RFK remarks. No one thought she was talking about something terrible happening to Mike Gravel. But I will give you this, she didn't "misspeak", she "could have put it better". But I guess us bitter Americans just don't understand poor wording. Clinton supporters I am sure understand that, that's what happened with Obama's remarks in CA no? Simply a failure to understand poor wording? Otherwise, they NEVER would have jumped all over it.

[Vattel]

43. she wasn't talking

about something terrible happening to Obama either. She was talking about how common it is for primary battles to continue into June. To conclude that she was insinuating something else is to try to read her mind and to make a horrible accusation without proof.

edited for spelling errors

[katerinasmommy]

44. my point is

she didn't need to mention assasinations to make her point. And most people would refrain. That she didn't is curious at best, disturbing at worst.

[Vattel]

53. it's really not that curious

there's a million and one reasons why she might have put it the way she did. One possibility is that she thought it would be easier for people to remember that the primary lasted into June by reference to RFK's assassination in June. Or maybe it's hard for her to remember or talk about that primary without thinking about the assassination. There is simply no good reason to find her remarks disturbing.

[katerinasmommy]

64. Death by violence

Is always disturbing and something that most don't reference casually when speaking of potential events. It would be like me saying, well I should go to the bank before there's a robbery and shooting. It's just weird.

[Vattel]

45. by the way,

I don't think there was anything wrong with Obama's "bitter" comment

And I don't think that Clinton "could have put it better." She put it just fine.

[katerinasmommy]

46. I myself, in this charged environment, with so many idiotic freaks in the world

Would never ever mention things like assasination and Obama, Clinton, McCain or Bush in the same sentance. She can't be unaware of the way crazed indiviuals take things. Not when I'm sure she's been on the receiving end of her share of nuts. I don't buy it.

[Vattel]

49. well

she only mrntioned Bill in that sentence; so I guess she owes him an apology. And Clinton wasn't even talking about the possibility of Obama's being assassinated. Many newspeople, including Olbermann, on the other hand, have mentioned the possibility of Obama or Clinton's assassination.

[katerinasmommy]

57. Sorry, I need to go to bed though I probably won't

OK INFERRED Obama in that statement.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

51. Nice try, I get it now. She "apologized" for NOT mis-speaking

How could anyone not see that. Two levels of rapid apology (well really the usual almost-apology) for NOT mis-speaking.

It is so clear if you use Hila-Logic.

It is like 18 wins beats 33 wins. Why doesn't the rest of the world understand Hila-Math?

[Vattel]

55. almost apology

is exactly right. Do you really think she believes that she did something she needed forgiveness for?

"Hila-Logic": knee-slapper

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

58. Just like her outright LIES about Bosnia, NAFTA, and more

I agree with you completely.

In her mind and the minds of her most rabid goose-steppers, she has no need to apologize to anyone for anything. Each of her insincere and fake apologies have been pathetic.

I'm so glad you see the shallowness of her words and post your agreement here. Thank you.

Now do you want to tackle the hard one? The Hila-Math proof that 18 beats 33.

Hint: It may take a friend unless shoes are easily removable.

[katerinasmommy]

60. That's a bit much

Vattel hasn't been insulting on a personal level like that. Just annoying. :) (Yes that was a joke, mostly. lol. )

[Vattel]

66. I think there's hope for you K;smommy

(How's that for condescending LOL)

[katerinasmommy]

68. How dare you say there's hope for me

It totally ruins my cool image

[papapi]

37. And who is slick, slimy Willie sliming here? He's a disgusting piece of work.....

....why did we ever elect this, this, ah, ah, ah, --- creature?

[Vattel]

47. I simply don't know how

much Obama has let others do his dirty work for him. So I won't prejudge him or Bill on this matter.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

54. Actually himself. That is the best joke of all.

He is giving himself and his wife "the respect they deserved" since no one else is doing it to their satisfaction.

It is all clear when interpreting Hila-Speak(tm) with Hila-Logic(tm).

He is doing such an eloquent job of it too.

[tomhayes]

61. We elected him because he was the best choice at the time

And now you've become so ANTI-Clinton that whatever he says you will immediately call him SLimy Willie.

Sounds a lot like tactics Rush Limbaugh used in the 90s.

[papapi]

73. Nope, you're wrong....

...I have only commented on Willy recently and only when I think his actions have had a deleterious effect on the Party.

[tomhayes]

59. Continuing story at DU: Bill Clinton is as bad as Newt Gingrich Said

Help Obama by contributing to http://www.falwell.com/ so they can make more tapes telling you the CRIMES of the Clintons.

The Clinton Chrnoicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Chronicles) is the Kool-aid people at DU need to drink NOW!!

[katerinasmommy]

62. It's not our fault Bill is out of control n/t

[tomhayes]

65. It's your fault you didn't see it decades ago

Everyone people are saying "We should have listened to them YEARS ago" should be ashamed!

How did you miss the TRUTH for so long?

Bill is OUT OF CONTROL. He's HURTING the country. He's slick as spit, he's horny, he's fat, he's a bitter man since his heart attack, and he's everything bad they've always said!!!

Troopergate, HaircutGate, Whitewater, Vince Foster and stating his opinion about how a political opponent and the press are treating his candidate in this election.

All crimes, and all the same degree of insane!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad Obama is so dignified in the face of the Clinton sh**-storm.

[katerinasmommy]

67. Actually, I did see it years ago

Especially when I volunteered for Tsongas and saw the kind of utter filth that the Clintons pulled against him. I've pretty much always despised the Clintons. I have never voted for them.

[tomhayes]

69. Well GOD BLESS YOU SIR!

The reason way Tsongas didn't win was the Clintons slimed him, had photos of his daughter having sex with an alien (or was the Perot's daughter?) and told him how he had killed Vince Foster while on a cocaine binge.

Bill Clinton is actually worse than any other politician (including Hitler and Ghengis Kahn) EVER!!!!

Why doesn't he and his hag wife sit down, shut up, and go away! That's what I call Democracy!!

[katerinasmommy]

70. do I roll my eyes now or later?

The Clintons did spread lies about Tsongas and his stance on Social Security, particularly in Florida. I was a volunteer and I saw it. Sure you're not thinking about crazy little Ross Perot? Tsongas was a good and decent man who died a few years back from cancer. He was a candidate for grown ups. Didn't get him far, then I was surprised. Now I know better.

[katerinasmommy]

72. By the way, that would be MA'AM.

I have better and tidier parts than a SIR. It's either that or my daughter Katerina is VERY VERY confused.

[truthisfreedom]

71. C'mon, people, chill out.

We're on the eve of knowing what's going to happen. Let's all just sit back and watch, and then vote for our Democratic Candidate for the first legitimate President of the United States in 8 years!

[progetto]

75. Bill is another reason why Hillary can't be VP

He's a loose cannon.

[EstimatedProphet]

78. And he killed Vince Foster too!

[Jefferson23]

86. I hope all the candidates stay the hell away from their pastors, they have no legitimate place in

politics, imho. I am a Obama supporter, but I have to say, I get sick and tired of hearing how they have a spiritual guide yada yada. I was thrilled to hear Obama say he was hoping to find a nice quiet church he could go to and sit with his wife and girls..and merely reflect privately. All this religious crap they all try to use needs to end..religion is a private affair.

Bill Clinton and Hillary are not in a credible position to accuse Obama..that Muslim e-mail was a disgrace beyond anything I would have ever imagined...if Obama's people were behind this, two wrongs don't make a right..but does Bill have any proof?..I doubt it.