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Thu Jun-05-08 12:19 PM
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Polk teacher arrested on sex charges |
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Source: FoxLAKELAND - The Polk County Sheriff's Office says a female schoolteacher has been arrested for sexual relationships with at least four teens. Detectives say the first two victims were students of 32-year-old Danielle Jones, a sixth grade teacher at Stanbaugh Middle School in Auburndale. Jones allegedly contacted the boys aged 14 and 15 through their MySpace accounts. Read more: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6702813&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:25 PM
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1. What is up w/ these women having sex with teens? |
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I understand desperation but there are plenty of guys out there. But I guess a teen they feel is safe.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:27 PM
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Sometimes it's power, and being able to be the dominant one in a relationship. Sometimes it's a fetish or obsession. Sometimes it's convenience. And sometimes it's just because they like young boys.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:35 PM
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9. When i was 15 ro 16 years old... |
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I would have jumped at an opportunity to bang a few of my teachers.
Cant really blame any of the parties involved imo.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:48 PM
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17. 'I would have jumped at an opportunity to bang a few of my teachers.' |
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Well, that's why society is looking out for you, because you obviously can't!
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:05 PM
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23. I think most 15 or 16 year old boys would jump at the chance to have sex, period. |
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I would have. It wouldn't have been the brightest idea, but at that age, boys aren't thinking with their 'big' head, just their smaller head.
And who knows, maybe not a teacher, but sex at that age with an older, wiser, understanding woman might have been made a positive contribution to my development.
Just my opinion.
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:50 PM
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The topic of sex is a taboo one in our culture.
Sex is the most natural thing we have left in our un-natural lives. - Do a little research on the Bonobo Chimps, they will open your eyes.
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Thu Jun-05-08 03:32 PM
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36. We should then emulate the Bonobo in all things |
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We should then emulate the Bonobo in all things, or only sex? If only sex-- then why only that and nothing else?
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Thu Jun-05-08 05:17 PM
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Did i say that Mr. LanternWaste
Never in my very short post did i imply we should "emulate the Bonobo chimps." All i said was do some research on them. Please do not mis-interpret my very short straight froward posts.
Thank you.
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Fri Jun-06-08 11:30 AM
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50. Many have read quite a bit about them-- why assume we haven't? |
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Many have read quite a bit about them-- why assume we haven't?
"did i imply we should "emulate the Bonobo chimps."
Well, yes-- you implied precisely that. Or else, what's the point?
Comparing and contrasting one animal culture's practice to another human culture's practice to what purpose?
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Thu Jun-05-08 05:22 PM
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39. Well, they do have much more peaceful societies |
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then the aggressive, warlike chimpanzees!
Just sayin.
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Sun Jun-08-08 04:29 AM
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60. What culture are you living in? |
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In America, it seems like all people talk about 80% of the time is sex. You're in a thread where we are openly discussing sex.
I always think it's funny when I hear people complain about our so-called "puritanical" society or the lack of sex talk. Just try to get away from it for a few days and then you might have a different perspective.
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Thu Jun-05-08 10:56 PM
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44. But would you feel the same if it were a 15 or 16 year old girl? n/t |
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Sun Jun-08-08 02:42 AM
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58. IT'S NOT ABOUT TEENAGE BOYS PENISES |
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IT'S ABOUT SICKENING ABUSE OF AUTHORITY
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Thu Jun-05-08 03:20 PM
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But also really funny, Bluebear!
Boys do need to be protected from themselves as much as predators.
How's it going?
:hi:
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Thu Jun-05-08 03:37 PM
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Thu Jun-05-08 02:20 PM
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31. you can't blame any of the parties? |
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not even the adult who knew what she was doing was wrong and illegal?
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Thu Jun-05-08 03:16 PM
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33. I'm sure many 15 and 16 year old |
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I'm sure many 15 and 16 year-old young ladies have those same fantasies about males teachers. Would you endorse that also? Would you feel all parties to blameless in that also?
If not, what's the precise and relevant difference?
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Sun Jun-08-08 02:41 AM
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it's not about your teenage penis - it's about shocking abuse of authority
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Mon Jun-09-08 09:13 AM
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64. I was simply addressing a post... |
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I was simply addressing a post which appeared to contain an implicit double standard. And I think that addressing one point doesn't deny or minimize the other points...
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Thu Jun-05-08 03:25 PM
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35. The same reason why older men are trying to have sex with teenage girls |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 03:25 PM by ckramer
They are fresh, clean, and have no diseases.
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Fri Jun-06-08 06:27 AM
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Latest CDC figures say STDs are rampant among teenagers.
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Sat Jun-07-08 09:02 AM
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55. Not if she's a virgin |
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Sun Jun-08-08 02:43 AM
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59. oh what a bunch of HORSESHIT |
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Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 02:43 AM by Skittles
those men are sick PERVERTS
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:26 PM
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2. I'll just wait here for the tide of posts saying how lucky these boys were... |
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...and how happy they must have been.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:55 PM
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21. Yes, typical male responses. n/t |
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:26 PM
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Thu Jun-05-08 02:22 PM
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32. which is strange because I'm sure |
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there are women who have fantasized about their teachers. But if it were a male teacher who was cutting a swath through the 8-9th grade girls there would be outrage.
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Thu Jun-05-08 09:25 PM
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But hey, it's easier to blindly assume that a boy is willing, and a girl is a victim. Because actually paying attention to the details of the case, or making the required individual judgements, requires a witholding of judgement that a lot of people find difficult.
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Thu Jun-05-08 05:32 PM
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(reminder, I'm the original poster)
If I'd had sexual relations at that age with someone in a position of authority I'd have been severely messed up.
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Thu Jun-05-08 05:47 PM
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41. Poor kids looking at this picture it looks like they were abused |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 05:47 PM by AlphaCentauri
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:28 PM
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4. Where was she when I was growing up!?1///1 |
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There, fellows, all said for you. :eyes:
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:28 PM
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5. Oh, those poor boys! Ruined forever! |
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Why, when I was a lad ... we used to fantasize about our teachers, but the fantasies never came true.
Not that I know of, anyway!
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:31 PM
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7. Perhaps it's better to keep that within the realm of fantasy. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 12:31 PM by muddleofpudd
Just 'cause one fantasizes about a thing doesn't mean that one should obtain the thing.
(edited for typo)
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Thu Jun-05-08 10:48 PM
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43. We did have one female teacher we suspected was banging a student |
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She'd also sit up on a desk and let us look up her skirt.
The ewwwwwwwwwwwww factor was unbelievable.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:30 PM
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6. Funny how there are a flood of these |
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But not of the male teachers. We know that goes on all the time- is it more titillating when it's the less common occurrence?
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:33 PM
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8. It might actually be less common. |
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The penalties are much harsher, as is the social judgement, leading to a greater deterrent.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:36 PM
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10. Well, the teacher ratio favors more women teachers anyway.. . so, |
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I beleive it would be harder to find too many male teachers within the school system.. but in FL it seems to happen wayyyyy tooo much.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:51 PM
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Vast majority of teachers nowadays are female |
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There is no way I would be a teacher, boy scout leader, etc. One accusation and your life is over. Why devote your life, many years of college, huge loan bills, etc. to something that could just get you put in jail -- and then killed once you are in jail?
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:39 PM
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11. Both this thread and the linked article are utterly useless |
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Without a photo of the accused.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:41 PM
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13. Thanks - This is indeed a heinous crime! |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:51 PM
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Those kids really got the shaft with that one.
I guarantee she wasn't the hot gym teacher.
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:24 PM
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But really I don't know if it's sexist (I guess it is) but I don't think the equation is the same with 15 year old boys vs 15 year old girls.
For one thing you have to be aroused to have sex when you're a guy... Now you can still be take advantage of but I dunno. Better to ask the kids I think. Even so this should not be condoned and she should do some time.
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Fri Jun-06-08 12:30 AM
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45. Those boys were definitely raped. |
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No teenage guy finds a woman like that to be attractive.
She needs to be locked up, just like any other rapist.
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Fri Jun-06-08 12:38 AM
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46. Yeah, definetly lock this one up! |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:46 PM
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14. Really. How **HOT** is Teacher? |
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Seriously though, it really is all about power and what is and isn't appropriate. 13 and 14 year olds aren't ready for sex and all the baggage that comes with relationships.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:47 PM
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"...aren't ready for sex and all the baggage that comes with relationships."
You're absolutely right.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:51 PM
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19. In this case the question is moot |
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She's bug-tugly and those boys may be traumatized when they figure out they were used by a predator.
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:47 PM
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16. SICK behavior, will she be too pretty to go to jail like the last one who was convicted I wonder. |
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Thu Jun-05-08 12:58 PM
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22. From all appearances, I think she will be doing some time. n/t |
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30. long hard time, judging by thepicture i saw... |
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:33 PM
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26. We're such degenerates here |
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Thu Jun-05-08 01:52 PM
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28. WMNF 88.5 ....best radio station in Florida |
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Fri Jun-06-08 02:46 PM
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54. That last one is at my old high school in Richmond, CA. Sad but true... |
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Fri Jun-06-08 09:27 AM
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49. This is one of the most disturbing threads I've read here in a long time. |
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Let me get this straight...
Boys want teachers to manipulate them and it's not really hurting them if she does
unless she's ugly. Then it's rape. Because attractive people don't have to rape
It's utterly abhorrent if it's a male teacher- like the one I had in HS who failed me for not sleeping with him- but if it's a female teacher using power coercively, that's just peachy-every boy's wet dream-
unless she's ugly. Then it's rape. Because attractive people don't have to rape
a common enough defense argument... "I didn't have to rape her, she wanted me. See how good looking I am? I don't have to rape anybody to get laid." Because every boy/girl wants sex with someone who is good looking. It can't be rape
unless s/he's ugly. And whoo boy, this gal's a real dog, so she can't possibly have any qualities that would attract any teenage boy, who are, after all boys being boys...
to sum up- attractive teachers don't rape students, the students are lucky, ugly teachers MUST be raping them if there's any sex happening because no way there's any other attractive qualities in her.
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Fri Jun-06-08 12:28 PM
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51. I'm afraid your that your summation does seem to be an unspoken... |
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I'm afraid your that your summation does seem to be an unspoken "gentleman's" agreement among many DU-ers in these types of threads.
There are some double-standards that are given a wink and a nod rather than close examination, and it would appear that particular responses to the OP is but one example of that...
This I leaned through the many FLDS threads....
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Fri Jun-06-08 12:46 PM
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52. Whenever it's a woman abusing/raping a boy, it always gets disgusting responses here. |
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Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 12:47 PM by PelosiFan
It's not even worth responding to them. It's statutory rape at the least and it's definitely abuse. She is just as guilty as any man doing the same to girls or boys, and if she were gorgeous she would be no less guilty. But you can't convince a few sophomoric asshats here of that.
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Sun Jun-08-08 04:39 AM
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61. Gives a little bit of insight.. |
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into a certain type of male psyche.
Sex isn't about love or even pleasure for these guys so much as a means of bragging about a trophy fuck in hopes other men will like you. Talk about daddy issues.
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Sat Jun-07-08 09:39 AM
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56. pretty much sums up the Fark.com philosophy of these crimes |
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Fri Jun-06-08 01:00 PM
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53. Nobody's mentioned Catholic Priests yet, so I thought I'd throw that in. |
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I suppose if only women were allowed to be Catholic Priests, and a few of them had been caught abusing altar boys, then there's a few people here who'd be having fantasies about being altar boys...
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Sun Jun-08-08 11:59 AM
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62. Lets face it the most disturbing part of the story. |
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Is what the teacher looks like.
If she was attractive I would feel differently. (see I will admit it)
Sex with an older knowing woman (or man depending on the preference) is a fairly common experience for boys 15 to 18. I doubt that it cause irreversible psychological trauma in most cases. ( Speaking from personal experience it is probably one of the least damaging things that can happen in junior high school)
Modern literature is filled with references to the importance of such a mating everything from the summer of '42 to the Vagina Monologues celebrate the wistful healthy loving only an experienced woman can give. (and if that experienced woman is a college freshman and cheerleader who is babysitting over the weekend while your parents are on vacation.... well so much the better but that was the early eighties things were different back then. but I digress)
Now some will claim the fact she is a teacher is a problem. And while we may embrace the love shown to their students by an Aristotle or Sylvia Krystal in Private Lessons the truth is due to a reduction of authority teachers in real life should refrain from introducing young boys to the pleasures of manhood. That privilege should be left to your older sisters friends, that neighborhood woman who needs her leaves raked or perhaps your new stepbrothers nanny.
But enough about me.
I was fortunate to be introduced into the ways of amore by some older woman who looking back took advantage of me in ways I would pay really good money to repeat today.
If however I had sex with the woman arrested above I would probably have drank myself into an early grave.
Right or Wrong it does matter what the teacher looks like. Don't believe me ask any fourteen year old boy.... or Forty year old boy for that matter.
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Sun Jun-08-08 12:12 PM
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63. I'm thinking of who my teachers were at 14 and 15... |
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...And either Mrs. Clifford or Ms. Bingham could have gotten it. I can't imagine a 14 or 15 year old boy who doesn't fantasize about something. If his teachers are hot, then that's probably it. Now, the teacher should be fired, charged, and given the same basic treatment any other sex offender would get. Just because the victims are boys doesn't make them any less victims. JMHO...
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