Clinton disavows push to make her veep

[maddezmom]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday disavowed efforts by some supporters who have urged Barack Obama to choose her as his running mate. The push-back came a day after the former first lady said she would end her quest for the Democratic nomination and endorse the Illinois senator.

"She is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her," communications director Howard Wolfson said. "The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."

Clinton was planning an event in Washington Saturday to thank supporters and urge them to back Obama's candidacy. But as she was bowing out of the race, supporters in Congress and elsewhere were ramping up a campaign to pressure him to put her on the ticket in the No. 2 spot.

Bob Johnson, the billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television and a Clinton supporter, sent a letter to the Congressional Black Caucus Wednesday urging the group to encourage Obama to choose Clinton as his vice presidential pick. He said he was doing so with her blessing.



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[Ian David]

1. "The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."

But she's just sayin', she has 18 million voters who want to be heard...

She's just sayin'

[femmedem]

2. Kudos to Clinton for this statement.

It will help her supporters continue to support Barack should he not choose her for veep. It might get the media to focus on something other than any continuing drama between her and Obama. And it will help her own career by allowing her to save face.

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[TexanIndian]

3. And yet Obamabots are screaming in the other thread

About how low class Hillary is demostrating etc. etc.

With 50% of the popular vote (give or take a % here or there), she has more than earned the right to be considered seriously for the VP spot. Obama should justify picking anyone other than Hillary. Yet, she is the one being blamed for being a 2 year old.

All because, Obamabots can't stand their leader only barely making it to the finish line. Even Edwards didn't release his puny army of delegates until months later. But I digress - he is male and he can do what Hillary should not do as a female. LOL.

[elocs]

5. You've got a week to get your "Obamabots" out of your system...

or else you will be in Tombstone territory. I'm betting a newbie with 31 posts won't last long. Rules here will be enforced.

[TexanIndian]

12. Is that a threat?

As far as I can tell, it was not inflammatory on the candidate, just some of the supporters who blindly were spreading hatred towards Hillary. The last I checked Hillary is a Democrat still and I still support the party.

PS: Urban Dictionary has the following definition for Obamabot:

Obamabot

A person who supports Obama and is willing to vote for him but doesn't know a thing about him.
It's just a label for someone who doesn't know anything about Obama. You call them a Obamabot because they just spew out their support but have nothing else to show.

[elocs]

15. No threat, just an insightful prediction. Think you'll make it to 100 posts? n/t

[beac]

10. Does anyone else smell pizza?????

Mmmmm... pizza..... :crazy:

[Zhade]

17. Obama's already justified. He's not going to let McLame prove clinton a liar via the Tuzla video.

That would be way too easy for McLame to pull off.

(And it's far more than "barely", but I do understand that fairy tales help cranky children sleep better.)

[Chulanowa]

22. She's certainly earned the consideration

And that's about all she's earned. I'd imagine Obama has considered it. I also imagine the conclusion to the consideration will be "thank you, but no - would you like Secretary of State, though?" or something along those lines.

There's a place for Hillary in this ticket. It's just not as veep. I have a feeling the VP is going to be an "unknown" - a governor or junior congressman or someone like that.

[asthmaticeog]

32. Maybe they posted on that "other thread" before they heard this news?

Chill pills. They're good for you. Welcome to DU.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

4. This part really needed to be said, "no one speaks for her but her."

Between the media speculation, statements by her surrogates and her Congressional supporters plan (now aborted) to push her at Obama as VP choice, the public was being force fed the impression she was on board with the idea.

Which would have made matters all the more difficult when/if she's not chosen for the position.

[Willo]

6. Yesterday morning, Bob Johnson told CNN

that he met with Clinton and told her he was going to do this.
They asked him if Hillary asked him to do it, Johnson said no.
They asked him if Hillary told him not to do it or if she tried to discourage him from doing so, Johnson said no.

The life and times of Spinderella - Act 4, Scene 12

[defendandprotect]

26. Obama helping pay her debts is one thing; if he goes anywhere near a DLC/HRC VPship . . .

I'm going to find the ticket very shaky and undesirable ---

[notesdev]

7. Back to the days of parsing Clintonisms we go...

> "She is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her," communications director Howard Wolfson said.

OK let's try to pry some truth out of this...

If 'no one speaks for her but her', then why is Wolfson speaking for her? If Wolfson is to be believed, then Wolfson is not to be believed. Hello cognitive dissonance.

> Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday disavowed efforts by some supporters who have urged Barack Obama to choose her as his running mate.

Apparently she did not, since no one speaks for Clinton but Clinton, and she said nothing of the sort.


If anyone needed a reminder why it is important to put Clintonism behind us, here it is. Time for the Clintons to "move on".

[beac]

11. Again, she gets caught doing something she shouldn't have...

...and has to try and spin her way out of it.

Your last sentence is perfect.

Enough of the Clintons and their drama.

[defendandprotect]

23. HRC was looking for a way to keep her delegates, she wanted only to "suspend" . . .PETITION . . .

just happened without her knowing anything about it --- eh?

And McAuliffe's insanity on Jon Stewart . . . pushing her forward as the still viable winning
candidate until Stewart had to pretty much punch him into reality --- and he was still in denial!

[aquart]

14. Thank you for the lecture.

Obama finally left that church there was nothing wrong with, right?

Don't you dare imply Sen. Clinton was the only one with a different story every day.

Check out how many times Obama's house story needed correction.

And, baby, it's only the beginning.

[Zhade]

18. The difference is, we actually have evidence of clinton's lies.

Obama's alleged ones? Nope. You've got nothing.

And I'd be verrrrrrrry careful with your glee at the attacks coming his way, lest a moderator think you're encouraging them. The banhammer falls hard.

[Tess49]

21. Two posts in this thread alone threaten possible banishment of other

members. Great way to work toward party unity. Pat yourself on the back.

[defendandprotect]

27. It would be better to acknowledge the problems rather than trying to

sweep them under the rug ---

We are not going to have "unity" for the sake of unity, we're going to have unity because
we understand what we are each saying to one another ---

[notesdev]

29. I'm not claiming Obama is an angel

He's human and there are things about him that are less than perfect.

But he's heads and tails above the package of flaws that Hillary offers.

Personally, I'm way past my limit of tolerance with respect to Hillary's pathological behavior, the way her statements are crafted so that they say one thing and leave her plausible deniability to immediately head in the opposite direction. It is just really insulting, like she's playing a game of "Gotcha!" that never ends.

The Michigan/Florida situation is a perfect example of how she can't be trusted. She made an agreement not to campaign in those states as the primaries were not to be recognized by the DNC, but unlike her opponents she didn't take her name off the ballot as the spirit of that agreement would have her do. By trusting her, her opponents got suckered, and to this day she is still trying to use that as a weapon against them.

Another thing that really bothers me is the practice of putting her surrogates out there to say things that she knows are untrue ahead of time, so as to get others to act in a way that favors her, but neither contradicts what they say nor considers herself bound by them.

It's like language has a whole different purpose to her than to normal people. Normal people use language to communicate; she uses it to maneuver.

It does nothing but breed cynicism, and this country has had more of that than is healthy or good.

If she won't move on - and I'm convinced she won't - then it's up to the rest of us to do so.

[BeatleBoot]

8. Why would she want to be his VP?

I've been posting this point forever.

Why ruin your career?

It makes no sense.

[defendandprotect]

24. What? She would want to be the VP because the way we're set up now

with limited two-term presidents, it puts her foot in the door for '08 ---

AND, it keeps someone else who may get to be VP out of the picture ---

If Obama serves two terms and we move to making the VP a candidate, HRC is o ut for more than
12 years ---

[Baby Snooks]

9. Like a weathervane...

Throughout the campaign her campaign has been like a weathervane whirling round and round while the wind shifted constantly.

She says one thing. Then her spokesperson says another. Then someone else with her campaign says something else. Then she says something else. Hard to keep up with it all. It changes with the wind. And Hillary Clinton keeps whirling around in the wind. Like a weathervane.

[defendandprotect]

28. Push/Rec

[stillcool]

13. Maybe it's not about the VP...

I think Hillary is holding out for the 'catastrophic event'. She doesn't want to fold just in case something should befall Senator Obama and knock him out. And she must keep herself in the game, because she can not depend on the Democratic Party to select her as the nominee. She must think the odds are in her favor.

[defendandprotect]

25. It looks like it's about the MONEY . . . Randi called that the other day ---

[Zhade]

16. Excellent. Choosing her would be an enormous mistake.

NT!

[Swamp Rat]

20. k&r

[ExPatLeftist]

30. In other words, "OOPS!"

Her campaign floated the veiled threat of pulling her voters (as if she controls them all like puppets) by announcing that she was, "open to" being VP and then refusing to concede on Tuesday (which was a historical day for Obama and the nation, but she had to try to steal the limelight). Her speech was belligerent and continued to argue, in delusional fashion, that she had really won the election and implying that she would fight on while her supporters chanted "Denver! Denver!". Even McCain got into the act by courting her disaffected (sour grapes) supporters in his "speech" on Tuesday, mentioning unfair treatment of the candidate (victim).

But the party had had enough of this BS, and she pissed a LOT of people off on Tuesday. She got called to task by many in the party, so then she claims that she is not at all pushing for the VP slot - I guess hostage-taking and blackmail are not "pushing".

She messed up Tuesday, so she came out later with a hypocritical about-face. Politics as usual for Hillary Clinton.

I hope that she will endorse Obama wholeheartedly and genuinely urge her supporters to vote for him. But after that, I really hope that she fades away - aggressive campaigning from Hillary (which we have already seen to a disgusting degree) like she has implied she will do will NOT help Obama. People have had enough. Endorse him and go on vacation, Hillary - PLEASE.

[Phred42]

31. There is no way Obama can trust teh Clinton's at his back

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6292756&mesg_id=6292756

It's time the DNC drove a wooden stake through the heart of the DLC