'Bean can grenade' recipe lands man in U.S. custody

[sweet baby jesus]

Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A Clearfield County man who gave undercover federal agents explicit instructions on how to make what he called "bean can grenades" has been arrested on weapons charges.

Bradley Kahle, 60, of Troutville, who said the election of Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama would prompt a civil war, is being held pending a detention hearing today in Johnstown.

He is one of four men now charged in separate but related investigations by the U.S. attorney's office related to possible militia activity.

(snip)

"On Aug. 11, 2007, Kahle advises the that shooting judges, magistrates and chiefs of police would start the doomsday process, or words to that effect."

Then, on March 27, according to the affidavit, Mr. Kahle offered to make the grenades at their next meeting, saying that he had five or six M-1000s.

Two weeks after that, the affidavit said, "Kahle said words to the effect of, that 'if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama get elected, hopefully they will get assassinated. If not they will disarm the country, and we will have a civil war.'"



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[grasswire]

1. Is Scaife stirring things up?

That's his newspaper.

[tabasco]

10. No, it's not Scaife's newspaper.

The Tribune-Review in Pittsburgh is Scaife's asswipe.

The PG is a very good newspaper.

[Zhade]

21. Yeah, but this is also anti-clinton, so it's not him - he's her friend now.

:puke:

[Buddyblazon]

2. Hopefully...

he'll be in there long enough...he isn't able to vote.

1 LESS VOTE FOR MCSAME!

YEA :lol:

[krispos42]

3. He made 16 of those bombs.

Oopsie.

Bragging about how tought it would be for a SWAT team to take him out isn't illegal. But making 16 IEDs..., yup, that's an arrest.

[DUlover2909]

4. Is it illegal just to make a bomb?

Like if I wanted to make a pipe bomb and watch it blow up out on my own land in a rural area? When I was a kid me and my friends used to make stuff with gunpowder out of shotgun shells ands watch them go off, like fireworks. Is that illegal now?

[krispos42]

6. Probably

Barring some kind of permit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. For example, you might need special storage areas which that guy didn't have. Or it could just be in the interests of public safety you need some kind of training and a license.

On Mythbusters anytime they want to go set off stuff they get a professional and go off to some kind of safe area like a bomb squad test range, an empty quarry, or an abandoned Navy air station.


There's probably some kind of size limit as well. Limits on the amounts you can make something from.

But in a rural area I don't think anybody's going to complain.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

7. yeah, that has been illegal since like

oh, 1934 or so

[Lochloosa]

19. How does 37 months in prison sound?

http://www.atf.gov/press/fy05press/field/082505no_hopkins.htm

LAFAYETTE MAN SENTENCED
FOR POSSESSING ILLEGAL PIPE BOMBS

Lafayette, Louisiana . . . HUEY HOPKINS, age 22, from Lafayette, Louisiana, was sentenced this week to 37 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release by United States District Judge Tucker Melançon for possessing nine pipe bombs, announced United States Attorney Donald W. Washington and Special Agent in Charge Mark Chait of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). HOPKINS was ordered to surrender to the U.S. Marshal's Service immediately. HOPKINS pled guilty to the charge in May 2005.

[uppityperson]

5. Does this count as domestic terrorism? Looks like it. Pict of others involved here...

Picture from an article, of other guys.
http://kdka.com/kdkainvestigators/Clarion.firearms.arrests.2.745267.html
http://kdka.com/local/domestic.terrorism.suspects.2.744322.html

Marvin Hall of Rimersburg, Perry Landis of the Clarion area, Morgan Jones of Lucinda, as well as Melissa Huet (not pictured) are in custody.

[acmavm]

8. This is just so stereotypical that it almost seems surreal. Especially after

getting a gander at the perps pics.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. Not possible, as none of those idiots look like muslims.

[happygoluckytoyou]

11. running down the street yelling "PULL MY FINGER" does not a terrorist make

[sam sarrha]

13. maybe running down the street with a home made bomb yell'n kill police judges an presidents does

maybe you dont remember all our best liberal leaders assassinated by ReThuglicans.. I'm old enough,

they will use those nut cases for their own purposes

[niceypoo]

12. Republicans went into this mode when Bill Clinton was president...

Paranoid losers whipped into a frenzy by talkshow hosts. Led to Oklahoma City bombing and militias.

[Carnea]

14. Which led to that great X-files episode

Where Mulder and Scully investigated people who horde manure. (For possible bomb making)Literal shit duty. No doubt we will have some crazies this time as well.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

20. militias predate OKC by more

than a decade... they were a problem in the upper midwest in early 80s

[slampoet]

15. They better lock up all the producers of MACGYVER Too

Harry Dean Anderson taught me how to make a grenade out of a pine cone.

He also taught me how to make an anti vehicle weapon out of the muffler from a 59 caddy.

[msanthrope]

16. What's his freeper name? n/t

[Mika]

17. In Miami we're used to bombers doing their dirty deeds. No worries though they're "freedom fighters"

Bush's base.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2000-04-20/news/mullin/full

The following list of violent incidents I compiled from a variety of databases and news sources (a few come from personal experience). It is incomplete, especially in Miami's trademark category of bomb threats. Nor does it include dozens of acts of violence and murder committed by Cuban exiles in other U.S. cities and at least sixteen foreign countries. But completeness isn't the point. The point is to face the truth, no matter how difficult that may be. If Miami's Cuban exiles confront this shameful past -- and resolutely disavow it -- they will go a long way toward easing their neighbors' anxiety about a peaceful future.

1968 From MacArthur Causeway, pediatrician Orlando Bosch fires bazooka at a Polish freighter. (City of Miami later declares "Orlando Bosch Day." Federal agents will jail him in 1988.)

1972 Julio Iglesias, performing at a local nightclub, says he wouldn't mind "singing in front of Cubans." Audience erupts in anger. Singer requires police escort. Most radio stations drop Iglesias from playlists. One that doesn't, Radio Alegre, receives bomb threats.

1974 Exile leader José Elias de la Torriente murdered in his Coral Gables home after failing to carry out a planned invasion of Cuba.

1974 Bomb blast guts the office of Spanish-language magazine Replica.

1974 Several small Cuban businesses, citing threats, stop selling Replica.

1974 Three bombs explode near a Spanish-language radio station.

1974 Hector Diaz Limonta and Arturo Rodriguez Vives murdered in internecine exile power struggles.

1975 Luciano Nieves murdered after advocating peaceful coexistence with Cuba.

1975 Another bomb damages Replica's office.

1976 Rolando Masferrer and Ramon Donestevez murdered in internecine exile power struggles.

1976 Car bomb blows off legs of WQBA-AM news director Emilio Milian after he publicly condemns exile violence.

1977 Juan José Peruyero murdered in internecine exile power struggles.

1979 Cuban film Memories of Underdevelopment interrupted by gunfire and physical violence instigated by two exile groups.

1979 Bomb discovered at Padron Cigars, whose owner helped negotiate release of 3600 Cuban political prisoners.

1979 Bomb explodes at Padron Cigars.

1980 Another bomb explodes at Padron Cigars.

1980 Powerful anti-personnel bomb discovered at American Airways Charter, which arranges flights to Cuba.

1981 Bomb explodes at Mexican Consulate on Brickell Avenue in protest of relations with Cuba.

1981 Replica's office again damaged by a bomb.

1982 Two outlets of Hispania Interamericana, which ships medicine to Cuba, attacked by gunfire.

1982 Bomb explodes at Venezuelan Consulate in downtown Miami in protest of relations with Cuba.

1982 Bomb discovered at Nicaraguan Consulate.

1982 Miami Mayor Maurice Ferre defends $10,000 grant to exile commando group Alpha 66 by noting that the organization "has never been accused of terrorist activities inside the United States."

1983 Another bomb discovered at Replica.

1983 Another bomb explodes at Padron Cigars.

1983 Bomb explodes at Paradise International, which arranges travel to Cuba.

1983 Bomb explodes at Little Havana office of Continental National Bank, one of whose executives, Bernardo Benes, helped negotiate release of 3600 Cuban political prisoners.

1983 Miami City Commissioner Demetrio Perez seeks to honor exile terrorist Juan Felipe de la Cruz, accidentally killed while assembling a bomb. (Perez is now a member of the Miami-Dade County Public School Board and owner of the Lincoln-Martí private school where Elian Gonzalez is enrolled.)

1983 Gunfire shatters windows of three Little Havana businesses linked to Cuba.

1986 South Florida Peace Coalition members physically attacked in downtown Miami while demonstrating against Nicaraguan contra war.

1987 Bomb explodes at Cuba Envios, which ships packages to Cuba.

1987 Bomb explodes at Almacen El Español, which ships packages to Cuba.

1987 Bomb explodes at Cubanacan, which ships packages to Cuba.

1987 Car belonging to Bay of Pigs veteran is firebombed.

1987 Bomb explodes at Machi Viajes a Cuba, which arranges travel to Cuba.

1987 Bomb explodes outside Va Cuba, which ships packages to Cuba.

1988 Bomb explodes at Miami Cuba, which ships medical supplies to Cuba.

1988 Bomb threat against Iberia Airlines in protest of Spain's relations with Cuba.

1988 Bomb explodes outside Cuban Museum of Art and Culture after auction of paintings by Cuban artists.

1988 Bomb explodes outside home of Maria Cristina Herrera, organizer of a conference on U.S.-Cuba relations.

1988 Bomb threat against WQBA-AM after commentator denounces Herrera bombing.

1988 Bomb threat at local office of Immigration and Naturalization Service in protest of terrorist Orlando Bosch being jailed.

1988 Bomb explodes near home of Griselda Hidalgo, advocate of unrestricted travel to Cuba.

1988 Bomb damages Bele Cuba Express, which ships packages to Cuba.

1989 Another bomb discovered at Almacen El Español, which ships packages to Cuba.

1989 Two bombs explode at Marazul Charters, which arranges travel to Cuba.

1990 Another, more powerful, bomb explodes outside the Cuban Museum of Art and Culture.

1991 Using crowbars and hammers, exile crowd rips out and urinates on Calle Ocho "Walk of Fame" star of Mexican actress Veronica Castro, who had visited Cuba.

1992 Union Radio employee beaten and station vandalized by exiles looking for Francisco Aruca, who advocates an end to U.S. embargo.

1992 Cuban American National Foundation mounts campaign against the Miami Herald, whose executives then receive death threats and whose newsracks are defaced and smeared with feces.

1992 Americas Watch releases report stating that hard-line Miami exiles have created an environment in which "moderation can be a dangerous position."

1993 Inflamed by Radio Mambí commentator Armando Perez-Roura, Cuban exiles physically assault demonstrators lawfully protesting against U.S. embargo. Two police officers injured, sixteen arrests made. Miami City Commissioner Miriam Alonso then seeks to silence anti-embargo demonstrators: "We have to look at the legalities of whether the City of Miami can prevent them from expressing themselves."

1994 Human Rights Watch/Americas Group issues report stating that Miami exiles do not tolerate dissident opinions, that Spanish-language radio promotes aggression, and that local government leaders refuse to denounce acts of intimidation.

1994 Two firebombs explode at Replica magazine's office.

1994 Bomb threat to law office of Magda Montiel Davis following her videotaped exchange with Fidel Castro.

1996 Music promoter receives threatening calls, cancels local appearance of Cuba's La Orquesta Aragon.

1996 Patrons attending concert by Cuban jazz pianist Gonzalo Rubalcaba physically assaulted by 200 exile protesters. Transportation for exiles arranged by Dade County Commissioner Javier Souto.

1996 Firebomb explodes at Little Havana's Centro Vasco restaurant preceding concert by Cuban singer Rosita Fornes.

1996 Firebomb explodes at Marazul Charters, which arranges travel to Cuba.

1996 Arson committed at Tu Familia Shipping, which ships packages to Cuba.

1997 Bomb threats, death threats received by radio station WRTO-FM following its short-lived decision to include in its playlist songs by Cuban musicians.

1998 Bomb threat empties concert hall at MIDEM music conference during performance by 91-year-old Cuban musician Compay Segundo.

1998 Bomb threat received by Amnesia nightclub in Miami Beach preceding performance by Cuban musician Orlando "Maraca" Valle.

1998 Firebomb explodes at Amnesia nightclub preceding performance by Cuban singer Manolín.

1999 Violent protest at Miami Arena performance of Cuban band Los Van Van leaves one person injured, eleven arrested.

1999 Bomb threat received by Seville Hotel in Miami Beach preceding performance by Cuban singer Rosita Fornes. Hotel cancels concert.

-

[RamboLiberal]

18. Militia probe began at 'flamethrower party,' agent says

A Clarion County man accused of crafting exploding golf balls and a host of other weapons will stay jailed after a federal magistrate deemed him a flight risk and a danger to the community.

Marvin E. Hall, of Rimersberg, is accused of possession of a firearm by a felon and transfer of an unregistered firearm, both on Jan. 11. He was arrested Sunday in a raid during which federal agents seized a laundry list of ammunition, explosives and firearms from his home.

FBI agents and the Pennsylvania State Police had been investigating Mr. Hall since 2005, when undercover agents met him at a "flamethrower party," a gathering for neighbors, gun owners and aspiring militia members in Clarion County, special agent Daniel Yocca told U.S. Magistrate Judge Amy Reynolds Hay. The FBI launched its probe of Mr. Hall and three other men to "target militias and individuals in militias who have a propensity toward violence." Mr. Hall told undercover agents he was not part of such a group, but if need be he would associate himself with a group called the 91st Warrior, Mr. Yocca said.

During the investigation, Mr. Yocca said, Mr. Hall offered an undercover officer a CD detailing how to turn an AK-47 into a fully automatic weapon; gave the agent two home-made plastic golf balls filled with exploding powder for use as miniature grenades; and told an officer that he continued to manufacture grenade launchers in a hidden-away machine shop.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08163/889094-100.stm

Seems to be quite a few of these nutcases up in this section of PA. There was another guy they busted for illegal machine guns and I've read of militia/white racist meetings up in that area.

http://www.adl.org/learn/extremism_in_the_news/Anti_Government/Militia_Broadcaster_040414.htm?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_the_News