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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:57 PM
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More secret files found on train
Source: BBC

More confidential government files were found on a train earlier this week, it has been revealed.

The Independent on Sunday says it was handed the documents, which cover fighting global terrorist funding, drugs trafficking and money laundering.

The files, about a meeting of financial crime experts, were found on the same day as a batch of top secret papers about al-Qaeda were handed to the BBC.

A Treasury spokesman said the government was "extremely concerned".


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7455084.stm



Follow up to earlier occurence: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7449845.stm
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:01 PM
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1. snort
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:23 AM
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21. This is happening more and more with business too
As people keep data on laptops and other handy devices, it's only going to happen more and more that they get left places.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:03 PM
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2. "We've now had eight major breeches that we know of in six months. "
That's pathetic!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:03 PM
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3. On purpose
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 06:04 PM by seemslikeadream
me thinks

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:47 PM
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8. This picture is toooooooooo awesome!!!!
How'd you do it? It would be a great meditation/relaxation tool - how can I find this for my own personal use?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:04 PM
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9. You may like these Youtube sites
http://www.youtube.com/user/soundlessdawn

http://www.youtube.com/user/rysa5



you can have it, it's like a photo, do you have aa photobucket account? Just save it there. I may move it from mine, I have a bunch, here's one more

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:07 AM
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14. Are these among the secret files??
Apparently Bin Laden developped these in his last moments alive - if you stare at any of them for more than ten seconds, you lose your prana and become one with the top double agents working for the other side.

You'd know this if you ever listened to the Beatles "Help" album backwards
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 03:56 PM
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24. Thank you!
:hi:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:56 AM
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11. Someone trying to send us a message . . . ???
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:51 AM
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13. Agreed... somebody trying to alert us. n/t
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:46 AM
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22. On purpose... exactly. n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:12 PM
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4. Did anybody find my kid's overdue library book, yet?
He left it somewhere...
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:59 PM
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10. And while you're at it
Please find some our lost socks... it would be swell if we could unite them with their matched pairs again.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:15 PM
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5. How convenient
"The confidential files were said to include details of how trade and banking systems could be manipulated to finance illicit weapons of mass destruction in Iran.

They also discussed methods of terrorist funding and the potential fraud of commercial websites and international internet payment systems."

I smell a rat. Just a convenient way of getting a message into the news ?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:27 PM
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6. Speculation on all the evil things that MIGHT happen ...
... and if WE can think of them, then you know THEY will! :sarcasm:

I'll bet right now the Iranians are reading through these articles and saying "Damn! That sounds like it would work! How deviously clever! Of course, we're not planning on doing any of that, but still, it is impressive!"
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:12 AM
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12. Whatever isn't covered in these files will be found in the "FARC laptops." n/t
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 03:12 AM
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15. BWAHAHAHA!
:rofl:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:40 AM
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17. LOL
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:32 PM
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7. Why is it they won't release the name of the absent minded MP ?
go figger
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:00 PM
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23. Any reason you think it's an MP?
I can't see anything about that in the story - and it sounds more likely it would be an official attending the conference:

The discovery of these confidential files is all the more embarrassing as they relate to a week-long global financial crime conference, organised by the FATF, which starts in London tomorrow.

Sir James Sassoon, the Treasury's ambassador to the City, is president of FATF, the Paris-based watchdog, which has 32 members around the world.

The revelations will come as a blow to Sir James, who is hosting this week's gathering of 450 of the world's leading anti-crime experts. He was unavailable for comment but sources say he is furious about the latest security breach. It is particularly galling as Britain has had a successful year holding the FATF presidency.

The files include briefing notes for the closed conference – to be held at the Queen Elizabeth II Centre – and draft speeches to be delivered by British officials at No 11 Downing Street on Wednesday at a reception for the most senior FATF representatives. Officials at the reception will include the Deputy Assistant Secretary to the US Treasury, Daniel Glaser, and Antonio Gustavo Rodrigues, Brazil's incoming FATF president.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-new-batch-of-terror-files-left-on-train-847451.html
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:31 PM
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26. Cabinet Office
from your link;

This latest security gaffe involving top-level government documents is the second breach in the past week and is hugely embarrassing to Gordon Brown. The Government is already investigating the loss of other files by a senior intelligence officer in the Cabinet Office, who is understood to have been suspended. This official also left documents, containing a damning assessment of Iraqi forces and a Home Office report on "al-Qa'ida vulnerabilities", on a train. They were handed to the BBC.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-new-batch-of-terror-files-left-on-train-847451.html

An official's name with the cabnet office hasn't been released. An article I saw made it sound like a member of Parliament.

still,
be that as it may,
why not release the government officials name ?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 03:59 AM
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16. left on a train? doubt it was an accident. n/t
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:44 AM
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18. Well, I can't exactly call this surprizing ...
more like confirming.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:47 AM
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19. The terrorist threat in the UK is sufficient to lock people up without charge for 42 days...
(the signers of Magna Carta must be turning in their graves)...

but not enough to exercise a bit of ordinary care and common-sense.

That's Blairism for you. Extreme control-freakery mixed with serious incompetence and negligence. And Brown is throughly Blairite on domestic policy, though a bit less of a warmonger.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:39 AM
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20. I see two reasons...
Fear mongering or whistle blowing. What's your take?

-Hoot
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:19 AM
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25. I thought that it was very interesting, too.
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