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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:11 PM
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2 women wanted in 'unbearable physical and psychological abuse' of L.A. boy
Source: LA Times

Police are reaching out to the public for help in locating two women wanted for allegedly torturing the young son of one of the pair.

Detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department's juvenile division announced Friday that they were searching for Starkeisha Brown, 24, and her live-in girlfriend, Krystal Matthews, 19.

Police said the women routinely subjected Brown's 5-year-old son to "unbearable physical and psychological abuse," beating him, burning him and not letting him eat or drink.

At a press conference Friday, LAPD Deputy Chief Jim McDonald said the boy had cigarette burns on his body, urinated on himself and was forced to place his hands on a hot stove. McDonald said the boy cannot now open his hands.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-abuse15-2008jun15,0,5087554.story
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:16 PM
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1. WTF! ARGH! GRR!!! MAD!!!! PUKE!!!!!
:wtf:

:argh:

:grr:

:puke:

:scared:

:thumbsdown:

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:57 PM
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33. you and me too, honey. how can this child ever be happy again?
I wish these assholes and others like them would just give their kids to me.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:12 PM
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39. "I wish these assholes and others like them would just give their kids to me" You & me too, honey!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:17 PM
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2. Utterly twisted and degenerate!
x(

Poor boy; his hands, his body parts burnt by cigarettes, just ugh!! x(

Sick.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:17 PM
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3. So hard to wrap your mind around stuff like this.
I'm nearly overwhelmed by sadness and anger. :cry:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:21 PM
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4. First thing to do is sterilize both of them.
In case the injection doesn't kill them.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:18 PM
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42. Who needs an injection? That's too tidy. I think a baseball bat suits, personally.
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:53 PM
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5. I hope the young boy can be helped!
I won't say what I would do to these very sick women if I had the chance!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 03:12 PM
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27. Then allow me....
Shoot them. Just fucking shoot them. When 'people' like these add to the overall pain and suffering of a society through abject cruelty, it is pointless to try to 'punish' or 'rehabilitate' them in any way. Just fucking shoot them in the head, make it nice and quick, and use what's left as fertilizer.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:28 PM
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29. I couldn't agree more.
If you act like a monster you should be treated like a monster.

My heart goes out to that little boy.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:54 PM
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34. I would not want to eat the crops grown with that fertillizer.
Maybe to grow crap to use as fuel?
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:55 PM
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36. Agreed. n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:54 PM
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6. I can't have children, but monsters like this can.
:wtf:
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:50 PM
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7. I hope that little boy gets help
he will need a lot of help after this.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:52 PM
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10. That's what makes me the sickest.
Why are psychos, crack whores, and the like so fertile??
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:52 PM
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23. I know. There is no justice. nt
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:52 PM
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31. Because...
...it's God's Will.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:56 PM
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8. Put faces to those names...Hope someone gets Starkeisha Brown
Apparently Krystal Matthews has been apprehended.

Starkeisha Brown


Krystal Matthews


2 Suspected Of Boy's Torture In Police Custody
LOS ANGELES (AP) ― Los Angeles police say they have arrested two women who allegedly tortured a 5-year-old boy.

Officer April Harding said Saturday the boy's mother, 24-year-old Starkeisha Brown, turned herself in Friday night.

Brown's girlfriend, 21-year-old Krystal Matthews, was arrested the same day when she showed up for an appointment.

Harding says Brown will be held in custody without bail and faces one charge of torturing.

Matthews was charged with willful harm or injury to a child. Her bail was set at $100,000.

Harding did not know if the women had retained attorneys. She says the boy remains in hospital where he is being treated for
serious injuries including burns to his hands and body and a broken tooth with a nerve exposed.

http://cbs2.com/local/Torture.Women.Boy.2.748497.html




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Turner Ashby Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:22 PM
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9. I would definitely load up charges and max out limits.
Sometimes the best of all possible worlds is standing behind the prosecutor's podium.
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:08 AM
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11. wheres dirty harry when you need him
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BOHICA06 Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:25 AM
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12. Lots of self-loathing and hopelessness there ...
... all taken out on the most helpless.

Got no answers ... but prayers for the boy, may he find love and mercy.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 09:43 AM
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15. Self-loathing and hopelessness??
Do you know these two monsters?

Sounds more like utterly unthinking and unfeeling for anyone other than themselves, to me.


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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:12 AM
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16. Self Loathing???
Why because they are black?
Because they are Lesbians?
Because their mothers named them Starkeisha and Krystal?


Fuck them? Why are they hopeless. They look like healthy young woman who decided to take a path or drugs and violence.

Well guess what. That path leads to a world of suck. And boo hoo that must be why they beat the little boy.

Fuck them. They had every opportunity in life and instead they torture the one person who loved them unconditionally.

They are hopeless all right but not in the way you meant.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:46 PM
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21. In all fairness ....
Self loathing is highly prominent as an element of a psychotic personality ....

The poster was NOT attempting to justify these actions by explaining their self loathing, but to illuminate how deeply affective such self hatred can be when expressed ...

Before they committed these heinous acts, they were hopeless and self loathing ...

AFTER they committed these heinous acts, they were amoral, criminal, hopeless and self loathing ...

They deserve to waste away in jail cells all their lives ....
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:10 PM
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24. Normally I would give it a pass.... I have no doubt these are broken people
Their actions speak to that. But why they are broken is unknown. They could be spoiled little rich girls with no sense of morality.

But the poster was responding to the thread showing the perps as young African American woman. There was no other new information in post 8 (Though most astute Du'ers probably figured it out by the names)

It struck me as excusing the crime because they were African American lesbians (poor seems implied as well though certainly not proven).... It must be societies fault and all that and we need to show sympathy and give a pass.

One or both might have be psychopathic assholes. Without a sense of self let alone self loathing.

Sorry I don't judge people by their ethnicity and that goes both ways.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:58 AM
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38. My god what scary expressions
As psychopathic as Darth Cheney, but without the veneer $$$$$ buys you. Both of them are giving off a look that could stop a clock...
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:35 AM
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13. They'll be in Florida, showing teachers how to discipline.
There's always room for women like this in America's public school community.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 09:40 AM
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14. Jesus H. Christ!! Now we're gonna feed these monsters and keep them alive til parole.
Ya know, I don't support the death penalty NOW because of the criminal unfairness of our judicial processes relating to capital cases.

But, in this case I'd make an exception.

Anybody who tortures ANYONE and especially a child needs to be erased from existence.

That child may never recover from the horrors he has been exposed to.

So SAD and Infuriating.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:40 AM
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18. think of all of the children in Iraq & Afghanistan
They've been tortured too. Many have no parents at all. Who is to say that these women have hurt this little boy any more than what we, the USA have inflicted upon others, Iraq and Afghanistan for starters. :(

I agree, they deserve no chance for parole at best. Put them in the slammer with the likes of Charles Mason, et al. for all I care.

:dem:

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:01 PM
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19. I'm with you 100%!
That's why I said ANYONE who tortures others.

I won't argue the fine points of torture of a specific individual versus the torture and horror inflicted upon the innocent during wars.

That's why Bushco deserve to be tried for their crimes against humanity, and if found guilty, let them pay the same price as the Nazis who were found guilty at Nuremberg.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:37 PM
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20. torture is torture is torture IS TORTURE
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 12:39 PM by CountAllVotes
no doubt about it. Sad as all hell what the human race has evolved into. :evilfrown:

This is the end for the two women and as for the little boy, it is just a beginning of a life that will likely be not so great. :(

:kick:

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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:36 AM
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37. We, the USA, are not parents to Iraq and Afghanistan
There is a big difference, in my opinion, between the two cases. This child was tortured and abused and neglected by his parents who should love and cherish him.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:39 AM
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17. sad.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 PM
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22. WTF is wrong with people? n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:10 PM
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25. There have been two cases of horrific child abuse leading to death in my local paper.
In case anyone was wondering, those two cases - both of which resulted in the death of the children who had been systematically tortured - involved white, heterosexual couples.

Child abuse, torture, and murder of children is not a problem of any one group - it is a human problem, worldwide. It seems to be getting worse and more frequent in the U.S. I'd guess it has something to do with any or all of the following variables - culture of death arising from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, lack of access to mental health care, and the free-fall of the economy. More and more people are getting desperate, and when some people get desperate, they do really horrible things.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:23 PM
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Motherfuckers!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:23 PM
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26. Double posts indicates puter hates them too!
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 01:24 PM by lonestarnot
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Athens30603 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:25 PM
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28. Animals. n/t
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:35 PM
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30. why?
just... why?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:56 PM
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32. Update: Both suspects have been arrested
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-abuse15-2008jun15,0,5087554.story

It's times like this that make me almost wish there was no Eighth Amendment. Almost.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:04 PM
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:55 PM
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40. I hope that boy gets a lot of love and kindness shown to him now.
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 05:57 PM by superconnected
He's going to need it.

Thank goodness they caught the abusers. This really should be prison time for them. Torture is never acceptable, not from the president or anyone. It's too bad torture isn't listed as the most henious crime with the largest punnishment. What one human does to another is always the worst, yet I suspect drug users get more time.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:16 PM
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41. Hm. Well, just turn them over to me. I can fix them so they:
1) Won't even feel like torturing a child is something they want to risk again.
2) Couldn't hurt a child even if they wanted to.

I know how to do real hurt.
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