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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:20 AM
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Immigration racket run by Indian busted in US
Source: Expressindia

Washington, June 16: With the arrest of seven Indians, US authorities have claimed to have busted an immigration racket run by an IT company owner who charged tens of thousands of dollars from expatriates by fraudulently sponsoring their H-1B work visas.

The alleged kingpin, Nilesh Dasondi, 41, was arrested last week on multiple counts of visa fraud involving his company Cygate Software and Consulting Inc. that runs offices in India and Canada.

A naturalised US citizen, Dasondi, who is also member of the Edison township board in New Jersey, was released after posting a USD800,000 bail but must remain under home confinement with electronic monitoring.

According to court papers cited in Newsday daily, Dasondi is accused of filing federal work visa and immigration documents for six people who did not work for his company between 2003 and 2007, authorities said. All the six have been arrested.



Read more: http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Immigration-racket-run-by-Indian-busted-in-US/323459/



Wonder how much of this slips under the radar....
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:27 AM
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1. The only immigration racket that I am aware of is the racket sponsored by our current government. nt
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:42 AM
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2. RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:41 AM
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15. Like the meatpacking company in Texas
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 11:42 AM by AlphaCentauri
where they raid the place to displace the latino worker and bring in refugees to replace them.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:59 AM
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16. I remember that being posted
(By you I believe) and was in shock.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:42 AM
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3. bing badading.... MORE GOP CHEAP LABOR
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:39 AM
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4. This is enormous late breaking news!
almost as serious as Tim Russert's death!

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:02 AM
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5. For some of us, it is important news.
It's not for you, as you're a lawyer. Likely immigration as your on every single thread such as this.

You'll be the first to complain when your job gets outsourced......then I'll laugh....just as you have at me and my hardships.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:22 AM
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7. Damn, you're right, I see the Mods just put a new rule in place!
It says we can only post things in the Late Breaking News section *if* the news is greater than or equal to the news of Russert's death in terms of Late Breakedness and News-worthiness.*

















*Obviously I'm being sarcastic. BTW, it's a little obnoxious (and insulting) to randomly throw out the death of someone in this context.
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:52 PM
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8. What more could you expect from a lawyer...
"BTW, it's a little obnoxious (and insulting) to randomly throw out the death of someone in this context."


Twisting the truth and looking for loopholes in our legal system his her job.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:07 AM
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6. He probably thought
it was OK, because abuse like that is mandatory business practice in India.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:08 AM
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10. he was probably abusing them in India
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:12 PM
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25. it is not
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:43 PM
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9. I don't see the problem.


Indians were here in North America well before the rest of us.






:hide:


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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:08 AM
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11. i hate when a small group of Indians make the rest of us of Indian origin
look bad by association.

most Indians are not like this idiot.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:59 AM
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12. You must not
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 10:59 AM by daggahead
be in management or own a business based out of India.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:20 AM
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:40 AM
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14. "cause they are taking my job"
I have not seen that on this thread.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:57 PM
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17. I'm in shock
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:08 PM
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18. It's the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.
And bluntly it's economics. If someone making 120k a year now makes 80k a year because of international competition that sucks.... But if someone making $15 an hour is no unemployable because of illegal immigration that is something completely different.

I'm against using visas to import McDonald's workers or Walmart greeters. But I do understand American business has an engineering shortage. It is quite real. We don't have a waitress or burger flipper shortage.


We need a jobs program for people that are not that bright and have no particular skills. Not everyone is college material. Protecting the jobs of ditch diggers and making sure they are at a living wage should be a priority.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:20 PM
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20. I know of no one in the IT field making anywhere
near 120K a year. If you believe that, I have some land to sell you.....and maybe that'll make up for all the pay cuts I've taken over the years.

Also.....America does NOT have an engineering shortage. There are MANY studies out there to support this. It's all about cheap labor, as usual.

Study: There Is No Shortage of U.S. Engineers

A new study argues that the offshoring of U.S. jobs is caused by cost savings and not a shortage of U.S. engineers or better education in China. However, the study warns that the United States is losing its global edge.

A commonly heard defense in the arguments that surround U.S. companies that offshore high-tech and engineering jobs is that the U.S. math and science education system is not producing a sufficient number of engineers to fill a corporations needs.

However, a new study from Duke University calls this argument bunk, stating that there is no shortage of engineers in the United States, and that offshoring is all about cost savings.

This report, entitled "Issues in Science and Technology" and published in the latest National Academy of Sciences magazine further explores the topic of engineering graduation rates of India, China and the United States, the subject of a 2005 Duke study.

In the report, concerns are raised that China is racing ahead of both the United States and India in its ability to perform basic research. It also asserts that the United States is risking losing its global edge by outsourcing critical R&D and India is falling behind by playing politics with education. Meanwhile, it considers China well-positioned for the future.

Dukes 2005 study corrected a long-heard myth about India and China graduating 12 times as many engineers as the United States, finding instead that the United States graduates a comparable number.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Careers/Study-There-Is-No-Shortage-of-US-Engineers/


Report refutes claims of dire need for more H-1B visas

June 17, 2008

In an address at the National Society of Black Engineers Region VI conference, Bill Gates perpetuated the belief that the United States is not graduating enough science and engineering majors and that that the overall performance of high school students in science and math is declining.

< Ephraim Schwartz is on vacation. This blog post first appeared on November 17, 2007, but with the recent Congressional efforts to make it easier for tech companies to hire foreign nationals, it seemed timely to revisit. --Eds. >

Typically, these two myths are used as an excuse to promote the need for more H-1B visas.

High-tech industry leaders have dismissed as not true any suggestion that the real reason for wanting an increase is in order to hire cheap labor.

Now a new study, "Into the Eye of the Storm: Assessing the Evidence on Science and Engineering Education, Quality, and Workforce Demand," by Lindsay Lowell, Georgetown University and Hal Salzman, The Urban Institute refutes those claims.

The Urban Institute describes itself as a "nonprofit, nonpartisan policy research and educational organization that examines the social, economic, and governance problems facing the nation."

The report confronts two major issues, that of a labor shortage and a decline in educational excellence in science and math of U.S. students.

According to the report available data indicates increases "in absolute numbers of secondary school graduates and increases in their math and science performance level."

The report compares performance not only with national test results over a number of years but with test results of student performance from other countries as well.

For example, the study found that in 1982 high school graduates earned 2.6 math credits and 2.2 science credits. By 1998 the average was 3.5 for math and 3.2 for science credits.

In addition, the percentage of 13-year-olds taking algebra increased by 38 percent over that time period.

Data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) shows steady improvement in both math and science test scores.

In another part of the report, the authors cites studies that looked at six international tests administered by the International Association for the Evaluation of Educational Achievement and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

The aggregate data concluded: "U.S. students have generally performed above average in comparisons with students in other industrialized nations."

As far as a shortage in computer science graduates to fill available jobs in the United States the study concludes that "the education system produces qualified graduates far in excess of demand."

Finally the reports concludes that, "assessing the claims of labor market shortages is crucial. Purported labor market shortages for scientists and engineers are anecdotal and also not supported by the available evidence."

But this doesn't seem to stop the steady drumbeat from high tech executives who keep saying over and over again that there is a shortage both in qualified computer science graduates now and in the pipeline in our schools to meet future needs.


Read the report. I found it both provocative and enlightening.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/realitycheck/archives/2008/06/report_refutes_1.html





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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:00 AM
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29. I'm trying to figure out the difference between brown people
according to those two comments
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smitra Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:19 PM
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19. Thank you...

Stereotyping based on national origin is just as bad as that based on race, religion and other characteristics.

Really surprising how much of it is seen on the progressive side.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:02 AM
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30. don't think everything here is progressive
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:39 PM
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21. 2 Things
1)-Who said brown poor people in foreign countries are "bad"? I don't see how that was stated, even implicitly in any sense. In fact, I think it says more about the person who comes to that conclusion than it does about the content of the post itself.

2)-I'm sure most Indian business owners ARE very good people. I don't see the relevance of that to this thread. Was someone suggesting otherwise, either explicitly or implicitly? If you think so, I refer you to the last sentence of # 1 above.

I would expect better from a progressive. ;)
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:46 PM
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22. Thank You! n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:52 PM
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:06 PM
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24. i am in management and do business with firms out of India
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:12 PM
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26. Sadly Enough....
There is no "level playing field for everyone." :(
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:20 PM
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27. dude, what is up with that tag line???
conservatives have become hypocrites and no longer true to American values


Are you trying to state that they were once the party of the people???

...I'm Not trying to start an argument, or anything along those lines... just curious as to the way you state it like you used to drink that Kool-Aid.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:05 AM
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28. no, i've never been conservative
however, there was a time when they at least stood for something - small government, lower taxes. it was a stupid ideal, but at least consistent. Now they've just become obscene, hypocrites, and crybabies. i have absolutely no respect for conservatives in any way.
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