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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:45 AM
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(Physicians for Human Rights) Report: Exams prove abuse, torture in Iraq, Gitmo
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 07:54 AM by maddezmom
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Medical examinations of former terrorism suspects held by the U.S. military at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, found evidence of torture and other abuse that resulted in serious injuries and mental disorders, according to a human rights group.

For the most extensive medical study of former U.S. detainees published so far, Physicians for Human Rights had doctors and mental health professionals examine 11 former prisoners. The group alleges finding evidence of U.S. torture and war crimes and accuses U.S. military health professionals of allowing the abuse of detainees, denying them medical care and providing confidential medical information to interrogators that they then exploited.

"Some of these men really are, several years later, very severely scarred," said Barry Rosenfeld, a psychology professor at Fordham University who conducted psychological tests on six of the 11 detainees covered by the study. "It's a testimony to how bad those conditions were and how personal the abuse was."

One Iraqi prisoner, identified only as Yasser, reported being subjected to electric shocks three times and being sodomized with a stick. His thumbs bore round scars consistent with shocking, according to the report obtained by The Associated Press. He would not allow a full rectal exam.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080618/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/detainees_rights_report;_



Medical Evidence Supports Detainees’ Accounts of Torture in US Custody

Cambridge, Mass. (PRWEB) June 18, 2008 — Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) has published a landmark report documenting medical evidence of torture and ill-treatment inflicted on 11 men detained at US facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantánamo Bay, who were never charged with any crime. The physical and psychological evaluation of the detainees and documentation of the crimes are based on internationally accepted standards for clinical assessment of torture claims. The report also details the severe physical and psychological pain and long-term disability that has resulted from abusive and unlawful US interrogation practices.

“Rigorous clinical evaluations confirm the enormous and enduring toll of agony and anguish inflicted for months by US personnel on eleven men who were detained without any charge or explanation,” stated PHR President Leonard Rubenstein. “Their first-hand accounts, now confirmed by medical and psychological examinations, take us behind the photographs to write a missing chapter of America’s descent into the shameful practice and official policy of systematic torture.”

Broken Laws, Broken Lives: Medical Evidence of Torture by US Personnel and Its Impact documents practices used to bring about excruciating pain, terror, humiliation, and shame for months on end. These practices included, but were not limited to:

Suspensions and other stress positions;
Routine isolation;
Sleep deprivation combined with sensory bombardment and temperature extremes;
Sexual humiliation and forced nakedness;
Sodomy;
Beatings;
Denial of medical care;
Electric shock;
Involuntary medication; and
Threats to their lives and families.

more:http://brokenlives.info/?p=53
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:58 AM
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1. Maj. General Tagabu (ret.) points finger at Bu$h regime .. WAR CRIMES!
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 08:01 AM by DemoTex
The report is prefaced by retired U.S. Major Gen. Antonio Taguba, who led the Army's investigation into the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in 2003.

"There is no longer any doubt that the current administration committed war crimes," Taguba says. "The only question is whether those who ordered torture will be held to account."
(my emphasis)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/18/gitmo.detainees/index.html


K&R
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:05 AM
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2. "There is no longer any doubt that the current administration committed war crimes,"
"The only question is whether those who ordered torture will be held to account."

Damn right.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:50 AM
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3. ABA Journal:CIA Lawyer’s Torture Definition: ‘If the Detainee Dies, You’re Doing It Wrong’
CIA Lawyer’s Torture Definition: ‘If the Detainee Dies, You’re Doing It Wrong’
Posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
By Debra Cassens Weiss

Documents released yesterday indicate that Central Intelligence Agency lawyers advised the Pentagon about permissible harsh interrogation techniques at Guantanamo. In one instance a CIA lawyer apparently indicated the definition of torture is flexible, the Washington Post reports.

Minutes of one Guantanamo meeting in October 2002, which don’t provide a verbatim transcript, had CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman saying that torture "is basically subject to perception.”

"If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong," he reportedly said.

The minutes indicate Fredman talked about how to avoid interference by the International Committee of the Red Cross and defended waterboarding, used by the CIA but never approved by the Defense Department, according to the Post account. He also said the detainees should be monitored by medical experts to prevent their deaths while aggressive techniques are being used.

Two months after the meeting then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld approved techniques at Guantanamo that included stress positions, sleep deprivation and forced nudity

more:http://www.abajournal.com/news/cia_lawyers_torture_definition_if_the_detainee_dies_youre_doing_it_wrong/
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:37 AM
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9. tortured logic to go with the tactics and legalisms
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:55 PM
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11. I will NOT let this sink
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:26 AM
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4. Wow. K&R. This is terrible, and deserves to be front page news!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:26 AM
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5. They kept calling it "techniques" at the Senate torture hearings yesterday.
Not "torture techniques." Just "techniques." It had kind of a nice sound--like a lover's "technique" for giving pleasure to a partner, or artistic "techniques" for creating particularly vivid color in a painting of the sunset.

Techniques. Even the good guys did it. This cleansing.

So now, we don't have a choice, like we used to, between a political party that favors business interests and strict adherence to Constitutional principles, and opposes government spending, deficits and "foreign entanglements" (the old Republican Party), and a political party that favors the workers and the poor, improving the Constitution to expand democracy ("one person/one vote"), and to reflect modern social values (the Equal Rights Amendment), and that believes in collecting taxes and spending that money to compensate for the irresponsibility of big business, and for the common good (the old Democratic Party--led by FDR, who said, "Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!")

Those political parties are gone. Now we have a choice between merely decent, competent government, and...torture, slaughtering a million innocent people to get their oil, shredding of the Constitution, massive thievery by the rich, use of the Dept. of Justice for political prosecutions, spying, out-of-control presidential power, tyranny.

And some leaders of "our" political party--the only one left that represents anything close to the interests of the American people and the principles of our Founders--are not even sure about torture, and slaughtering millions to get their oil, et al. They kind of like the idea of the president being able to torture people, and imprison them for 3 to 5 years (or forever) without charge, without being able to know who their accusers are, without trial. They help the fascist tyrants to whitewash torture by calling it "techniques." They have put impeachment "off the table," cuz they really don't think that torture, treason, heinously unjust war, and the shredding of the Constitution, are crimes--or, if they do, they don't have the guts to do what's right, under the Constitution.

We get a choice between outrageous tyranny, and forgetting. We get a choice between war criminals running our government, and Democrats running it, who think that we should accommodate ourselves to fascist tyrants with "win/win" corporate P.R. We can all "win"--the torturers, the thieves, the liars, the spyers, the blackmailers, the murderers can now become the "opposition" and we can "compromise" with them, and "reach across the aisle" to the blood-drenched killers of our democracy.

I give Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and similar Democratic politicians points for fear--for being understandably afraid of this fascist junta and its extremely dangerous leaders. And, frankly, I don't think we can really know what's going on with our government, so much is occurring behind the scenes, shrouded in secrecy. Quite possibly the things that make us so angry--"impeachment is off the table," etc.--are not what they seem. They could be part of a "deal" to get these criminals to relinquish power peacefully, when the time comes. These are NOT normal times. And even given the evidence of Democratic Party leadership COMPLICITY on war and utter lawlessness (and their worst betrayal, in my opinion--electronic voting systems run on 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by RIGHTWING BUSHITE corporations), I don't think it's easy to judge them, in the current situation. Pelosi may end up being regarded as a hero, some day--for her part in ousting this junta (and having to endure the outrage of the citizenry, in order to do it). And Obama may end up being regarded as the smartest politician ever to run for president, by outwitting the tyrannical forces in our own party, as well as the vicious, fascist corporate 'news' monopolies, and the Bushite election theft corporations, and creating such a landslide that there is nothing they can do to prevent him from becoming president.

But, in the meantime, this respectability that is given to torture--as a "technique," and as a subject for reasonable discussion among reasonable people, and as a "choice" of this society, rather than cause for the rending of garments and the wearing of "sackcloth and ashes," and for puking one's guts out on the floor in disgust, and rather than a bill of impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors"--is excruciatingly painful to any of us who remember the Old Republic, when all of us were agreed on the rule of law.

Torture is not a "technique" and it is not a "choice" in this society. It is a heinous CRIME--and yet it is being talked about as if it were the Republican Party platform. Torture and shredding of the Constitution are now Republican Party POLICY. Somehow we've gone from Nixonite burglaries--which our Congress felt obliged to condemn, and to draw up an impeachment bill to punish--and Reaganite illegal war on Nicaragua--concerning which our Congress at least felt obliged to punish some people--to this...to horrendous criminal conduct by the Executive that cannot be impeached. The Constitution has been put "off the table"--and with it goes any accountability for any presidential crime, including the worst of them.

IF this was the price that was paid for no nuking of Iran, and/or for getting rid of Donald Rumsfeld, and/or for Bush/Cheney going peacefully, it may be understandable, but it is NOT acceptable, and it MUST be fully examined and vetted by the American people, and our Constitution MUST be restored, along with vote counting that everyone can see and understand.

This spectacle of egregious "high crimes and misdemeanors" being exposed and not prosecuted must be explained.



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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:28 AM
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6. War criminals. n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:46 PM
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7. America TORTURES people. FACT. George W. bUsh APPROVES TORTURE.
FACT.

We are a nation that holds people indefinitely without trials, without right to legal consul, without fair & open trials.

We are a nation that tortures people and renders them to other nations to be tortured.

We are a nation that "disappears" people.

We are a nation that does everything George W. bUsh accused Saddam Hussein of doing.

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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 03:11 PM
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8. Is Impeachment "Still Off The Table"?
God we have a useless Congress.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:39 AM
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10. kick
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