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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:44 AM
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Venezuelan economy displaces Argentina as third largest
Source: MercoPress

Monday, June 23, 2008
Venezuelan economy displaces Argentina as third largest

Venezuela will replace Chile as the country with the region's highest GDP per capita and Argentina as the region's third-largest economy, according to a Latin Business Chronicle analysis of data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Venezuela's GDP per capita is estimated to reach 11,933 US dollars this year. That's higher than the estimated figure for Chile of 10,126. The IMF estimates also show that Venezuela's GDP is set to reach 334.7 billion US dollars this year, while that of Argentina will likely end up at 323.8 billion.

However, Venezuela will likely lose its status as Latin America's third-largest economy as soon as next year, when Argentina's GDP again will be larger, the IMF forecasts. When it comes to GDP per capita, Venezuela is likely to remain the top country in Latin America through the next five years, the fund predicts.




Read more: http://www.mercopress.com/vernoticia.do?id=13785&formato=html
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:42 AM
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1. Damn Commies! [/sarcasm] n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 05:13 AM
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2. Thank God Senator Joe McCarthy's not alive to see this! I'm series!!!1!!1!!!!
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 05:51 AM by Judi Lynn
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/USAmccarthy3.jpg


On edit:

"Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"
“Have You No Sense of Decency”: The Army-McCarthy Hearings
Anticommunist crusader Senator Joseph R. McCarthy stepped into national prominence on February 9, 1950, when he mounted an attack on President Truman’s foreign policy agenda. McCarthy charged that the State Department and its Secretary, Dean Acheson, harbored “traitorous” Communists. McCarthy’s apocalyptic rhetoric made critics hesitate before challenging him. Those accused by McCarthy faced loss of employment, damaged careers, and in many cases, broken lives. After the 1952 election, in which the Republican Party won control of Congress, McCarthy became chairman of the Senate Committee on Government Operations and its Subcommittee on Investigations. McCarthy then extended his targets to include numerous government agencies, in addition to the broadcasting and defense industries, universities, and the United Nations. After Secretary of the Army, Robert T. Stevens, refused to intercede to halt an overseas assignment for McCarthy’s chief consultant, G. David Schine, who had been drafted, McCarthy’s committee began a two-month investigation of the Army. Viewers saw the following dramatic encounters televised live as they occurred between McCarthy, Special Counsel for the Army Joseph N. Welch, Counselor for the Army John G. Adams, and the subcommittee’s chief counsel, Roy Cohn. Although McCarthy’s power declined sharply following the hearings and the Senate voted to condemn him a few months later, scholars disagree on whether McCarthy’s appearance before a mass television audience caused his fall. Historians do, however, credit ABC-TV’s decision to broadcast the hearings live, the only one to do so, with the network’s rise to prominence.
Transcript of the hearing in which that famous question was voiced in McCarthy's general direction:
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6444

http://images.wisconsinhistory.org.nyud.net:8090/700003030012/0303000256-m.jpg

Joseph McCarthy with G. David Schine and Roy M. Cohn


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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 05:39 AM
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3. Who said socialist ideals ruin economies?
So those free trade supporters are wrong, yet again. Socialism can greatly improve the economy.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:38 AM
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12. is it socialism or oil??? please....n/t
nn
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 11:27 AM
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16. The Chavez government has achieved a nearly 10% growth rate over the last
five years, with the MOST growth in the PRIVATE sector NOT INCLUDING OIL.

What do you mean by saying "is it socialism OR oil?"? It is obviously a combination--a socialist government using the oil profits WISELY--for education, for medical care, for seeding small businesses and co-ops, for encouraging LOCAL manufacturing, for land reform, for regional development, and for all the necessary ingredients of a progressive and prosperous society. It was the SOCIALIST Chavez government that RE-NEGOTIATED the oil contracts to give the Venezuelan people a bigger share of their own oil profits (60/40, as opposed to the 10/90 giveaway of previous governments). No socialist government; no re-negotiation. It is a SOCIALIST government that is using the money WISELY, for all the right stimulants. No socialist government; no wise investment (and, indeed, the unbelievable stupidity of former rightwing governments, who created a glitzy, urban, IMPORT-dependent society for the rich oil elite, and utterly neglected all of the basics of good government--local manufacturing, food self-sufficiency, education, the lot).

Do you begrudge them the oil as a help in swift improvement of their society? WHAT is your problem? Clearly, the Chavez government is doing most things RIGHT--as to all the traditional indicators. That they now have increased government revenue from oil profits, to work with, is a GOOD thing. Venezuela is a MIXED economy--with both socialist and capitalist elements--much like many European and Scandinavian economies. And, like those economies, socialist programs help spread the wealth around so that everyone prospers and everyone gets to live in a DECENT society. I was listening to a Thom Hartman interview of a Danish politician yesterday, who said that the AVERAGE tax rate in Denmark is FIFTY PERCENT. FIFTY PERCENT of the wealth is contributed to the GOVERNMENT for the COMMON GOOD. They don't have to have a tax rate like that, in Venezuela, because of the oil. Is that bad? In Norway, the oil is owned and controlled by the state, and used for the benefit of the Norwegian people. Is that bad?

Capitalism for investment and development; socialism for DECENCY. The best government--creative, innovative, CARING. How would YOU use Venezuela's oil profits? Hm?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:43 PM
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24. never concedes to anyone's responses
that's how I know people have agendas. It's one thing to disagree with a person and to deny their information by proving it false but to make statements, get corrected and never concede that they made an error happens way too often by the same folks.

This anti-Chavez thing really is about smearing socialism and trying to convince DUers that Chavez and Venezuela are never listened to.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:37 AM
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4. Socialism Helps National Economies? Oh my....
the neo-cons sure don't want people here to know about that.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:40 AM
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5. Yep. Not a "blip" about that truth on their owned M$M "$ub$idiarie$"
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 08:41 AM by Amonester
surprise, surprise (NOT)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:04 AM
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8. Isn't THAT the way they go? Don't expect it any time soon, either.
They're way too busy finding ways to bury ALL the news the Bush adminstration doesn't feel we need to know.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:51 AM
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15. Socialism is the best Means to Keep Capitalism in Check
and regulated. When there is a sense of working together for an endeavor a country and it's people as a whole benefit. Do away with social programs and that sense of togetherness and you get fascism, an imbalance in an economy where the wealthy rule over the poor and democracy is only a label given to elections.

I prefer balance and that is what Chavez is trying to do. Unfettered capitalism is a racket for the wealthy business man and woman. We have history already to prove it.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:45 AM
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6. The increase in oil prices are helping someone anyway. n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:09 AM
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10. If only other South American countries had oil...
:eyes:

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:36 AM
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11. all of Venezuela's growth is due to oil n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 09:37 AM by Bacchus39
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:43 AM
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13. Is that all that bad?
Would it be better if the oligarchs were in charge?

What's US growth based on, for instance? War? Inflated real estate values? Attorney fees?

More to the point, what's your point?

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:48 AM
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14. no, not at all. the same was true in the 70s and then it crashed.
although that would seem less likely now. back then, much of Venezuela's infrastructure was constructed with the high oil revenues like the Caracas subway, the telefericos, and the like. they were awash in money. my point is that the economic improvements are due to oil revenue rather than socialism. that's all.

its still true that Venezuela lacks a diverse economy like Brazil, Chile, and even Colombia which is improving despite the on going war and the sabotage of their infrastructure by the FARC.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:17 PM
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21. But it takes a strong macroeconomic policy to create the public improvements.
Granted, they could be "socialist" or "capitalist" in nature. What's important is that the state guide economic development.
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Flanker Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:02 PM
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39. Chile is really a bad example, their economy is as monproducing as Venezuela
nm
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:10 PM
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28. It's neither "Bad" or "Good".
It's just a simple fact that Venezuela's economy is heavily tied to the price of oil...period.

It is not a vindication of their government policy just as a sudden drop in worldwide oil prices and subsequent fall in their ranking would be a condemnation of their government policy.

It's just a simple relationship fact without any additional meaning to agendas some people may have.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 11:34 AM
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17. But the growth is happening now. n/t
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:34 PM
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22. along with the oil prices
you mean you don't see a relationship?? oil is what percent of Ven's economy???
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:05 PM
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27. Venezuela's economy has grown steadily since the second half
of 2002, iirc. Do you mean YOU don't see a relationship?
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:12 PM
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30. yes, I do. I see the relationship of increased oil prices and economic development
I already posted in the 70s Ven was rolling in oil revenue. the oil market collapsed as did the Ven economy. fortunately they did invest in infrastructure at that time.

the US economy boomed under Clinton and with Reagan and even under our very own Idiot-in-Chief there have been periods of strong growth, do you attribute those growth periods to socialism???
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:29 PM
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32. Yes, Bush has been great for the economy.
And, I recall the "I survived the market of 1983" t-shirts during the lovely, Reagan era, worst recession in fifty years. Not to mention, he was the Father of modern homelessness.

Clinton did well in reducing the poverty rate just about every year of his administration.

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Flanker Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:17 PM
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44. Every single commodity is rising as fast as oil
Chile Copper
Argentina Soy, Wheat, Corn
Colombia Coffee, Cocaine
Peru Gold, Copper

Yet Venezuela topped all of them, I am more worried about maintaing such growth, but the ranking is actually an accomplishment.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:54 AM
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7. The link's not working now, although that's where I got it this morning.
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 08:58 AM by Judi Lynn
At some point they should be back, I'm sure. I've been there countless times already.

If I see the same info. from another source, I'll post it.

On edit:

Here's the information from another site:
Monday, June 23, 2008
Venezuela: Latin America's Richest?

Venezuela, here represented by Caracas, is expected to become the richest country in Latin America this year, according to a Latin Business Chroncile analysis of IMF data.

Venezuela will replace Chile as Latin America's GDP per capita champion and Argentina as the region's third-largest economy.
BY CHRONICLE STAFF

Venezuela will replace Chile as the country with the region's highest GDP per capita and Argentina as the region's third-largest economy, according to a Latin Business Chronicle analysis of data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Venezuela's GDP per capita is estimated to reach $11,933 this year. That's higher than the estimated figure for Chile of $10,126. The IMF estimates also show that Venezuela's GDP is set to reach $334.7 billion this year, while that of Argentina will likely end up at $323.8 billion.

However, Venezuelan economist Jose Luis Cordeiro warns that the comparison with Chile may be misleading. "Such numbers are at the official exchange rates," he says. "At the parallel market rates, the numbers are only half, and Venezuela looks more like Peru."

TEMPORARY RANKING

And Venezuela will likely lose its status as Latin America's third-largest economy as soon as next year, when Argentina's GDP again will be larger, the IMF forecasts. When it comes to GDP per capita, Venezuela is likely to remain the top country in Latin America through the next five years, the fund predicts.

Venezuela's economy grew by 8.4 percent last year, but is starting to see a slowdown. This year it should expand by 5.8 percent and next year only by 3.5 percent, according to IMF forecasts. Argentina's economy will see a similar trend, albeit not as marked. Last year, its economy expanded by 8.7 percent. This year it should grow by another 7.0 percent before expanding by 4.5 percent in 2009.
More:
http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/app/article.aspx?id=2535



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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:08 AM
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9. So their economy is bigger then Canada's?
Germany...China...

Wow.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:17 PM
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45. I'm reasonably certain the OP is only talking South/Central America n/t
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 11:51 AM
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18. They are more Saudi Arabia than Ireland... on the plus side they aren't Iran
May want to look at that cause and effect thingy...... I think Venezuela's economy grew despite nationalization of major industries.

Still they are only 4,000 per a year GDP behind Saudi Arabia GDP - Per Capita (PPP): $15,481

For the sake of measurement the US suffers at 45,845 Sweden at 49,655 Canada at 43,485 Ireland 59,924 Luxembourg 104,673

On the other hand more impressive than say Vietnam 818 Iran 4,149 Jamaica 4,172 Egypt 1,739 ot the Congo at a amazing bad $166


They seem to be doing as well or better than other oil producing but alas I think black gold is your friend here rather than social programs. Perhaps some stability and rule of law plus some cultural improvements will keep that number rising. (Note that low corporate tax havens such as Ireland and Luxembourg and High corporate tax states such as Sweden and the United States do almost equally as well.)




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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:04 PM
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19. Gee, oil's at $140 a barrel. I'm not shocked that Venezuela is doing better. However, it's not
because of King Hugo.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:04 PM
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26. shh! El Rey Chavez is flawless, you fascist, neoliberal corporatist!
:nopity:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:33 PM
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33. You irrational Chavez haters are hilarious.
What is it exactly about him that you don't like? That he doesn't kiss Bush's ring? That's he's dark? Venezuela has a more diversified economy and infrastructure than when he came in. He's reduced the number of people living under the poverty line. He's increased literacy and homeownership and medical care. Kids in school get two hot ones.

None of you can point to a single objective fact that justifies your over the top denunciations. It's kind of funny -- like those people that jump on their diningroom tables when they see a mouse.

lol
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:37 PM
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36. agendas do that
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:16 PM
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20. Socialist Venezuela moves forward!
Socialism works.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:38 PM
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23. Ven economy
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 12:39 PM by Bacchus39
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela
The economy of Venezuela is based on oil, although efforts have been made to develop heavy industry, e.g. steel and aluminium, and to revive the agricultural sector. From the 1950s to the early 1980s the Venezuelan economy was the strongest in South America. The continuous growth during that period attracted many immigrants. With the collapse of oil prices during the 1980s the economy contracted. As oil prices have increased in recent years, Venezuela's economy has strengthened, with GDP growing by about 10 percent a year.


http://www.startribune.com/business/19646609.html


Despite oil wealth, Venezuelan economy cools as inflation rises, growth slows
By RACHEL JONES , Associated Press

Last update: June 8, 2008 - 7:22 PM

CARACAS, Venezuela - Mirina Kakalanos has been forced to double prices at her family's shoe store in the last year. Customers turn away after browsing the pumps and sandals, but Kakalanos says she has no choice.

"There is less money coming in, and more costs to cover," said the 40-year-old mother of three, whose Greek immigrant father opened the shop after moving to Venezuela in search of a better life. Now she barely makes enough to get by.

Boom times are waning in oil-rich Venezuela, even as world crude prices soar. Inflation is nearing 30 percent, the highest in Latin America, and annual economic growth slowed to 4.8 percent in the first quarter, a four-year low.

Analysts say President Hugo Chavez's economic policies are hindering private investment and growth just as he hopes to boost support ahead of November's regional elections. Many point to the economy as his Achilles' heel.

Already complaining of inflation and food shortages, voters last December rejected constitutional changes that would have allowed Chavez to run for re-election indefinitely — his first blow at the ballot box, where he had enjoyed four straight electoral and referendum wins.

Inflation has been a familiar problem, but a newly slowing growth rate is making it a more urgent concern.

Chavez plans to announce a package of economic measures to boost growth in coming days — and to name a new finance minister to lead the strategy, Information Minister Andres Izarra said.

Venezuela, the world's 10th-largest producer of crude, has seen its annual budget triple to US$63.9 billion since 2004 as oil prices soared. State oil monopoly Petroleos de Venezuela SA provides about half of the government's income.

Chavez pumped huge amounts of that revenue into social programs for the poor, flooding the economy with cash and fueling a consumer spending boom while banks increased lending.

Stanford University political scientist Terry Karl says oil booms always send growth soaring — until an economy reaches what she calls an "absorption crunch."

"You just can't absorb that huge influx of money properly," Karl said. "You get problems with your prices, you get problems of supply. ... All those bottlenecks slow down growth and eventually create inflation."

Like many oil-producing nations, Venezuela has a history of inflation, which reached 103 percent in 1996, two years before Chavez was first elected.

As prices now climb again, Chavez's government has tried to tame the trend — issuing US$4 billion in bonds in April to absorb excess cash, enforcing price controls on basic foods and holding the currency to a fixed exchange rate. It introduced a new monetary unit in January to boost confidence in its sagging "bolivar," and changed the way inflation is measured, incorporating data from smaller cities with less cash on hand.

The Central Bank embraced a more traditional anti-inflationary measure in March, raising interest rates on credit cards to 32 percent and on savings deposits to 10 percent to slow consumer spending.

But inflation is galloping, with rates of roughly 30 percent after running at nearly 20 percent a year earlier. And some of Chavez's tactics have backfired.

Price caps have caused sporadic shortages, as some food producers sought other, more profitable work. And foreign exchange controls make it harder for businesses to get dollars to buy imports, driving them to buy the U.S. currency on the black market, where it has sold at times for twice the official rate — further inflating prices.

Investors complain that these restrictions — not to mention the fear that their lands or companies could be taken over by the government — are making it harder to do business in Venezuela.

Antonio Borguno has run a successful paint solvent plant in northern Carabobo state for 30 years. But when it came time to expand last year, he decided to build the US$4 million plant in Panama.

"The economy is safer" there, he said.

Foreign direct investment fell to US$646 million in Venezuela last year, about half its average for the previous four years, according to the U.N. Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean.

Analysts warn that slowing flow of capital is a drag on the country's annual growth rate, which slowed to 4.8 percent at the end of the first quarter from 8.8 percent last year.

Chavez notes that Venezuela's growth handily beats the 0.9 percent annual gain seen in the U.S. in the first quarter. But developing economies typically grow faster: Latin America as a whole expanded by 5.6 percent last year, according to the International Monetary Fund.

On Sunday, Chavez urged businesses to invest in joint projects with his socialist government. "We want private capital to invest in Venezuela," he insisted, calling for an "alliance between the state and the private sector."

But more often, state investment has replaced private capital. Since 2007, Venezuela has nationalized its largest telephone, electricity, steel and cement companies and assumed majority control over four major oil projects. And political allies including China and Iran have pledged billions of dollars for joint investments.

That leaves some economists disputing the notion that Venezuela's economy is in trouble. "Nobody would complain in Latin America about 4.8 percent growth," said Mark Weisbrot, co-director of the Washington-based Center for Economic and Policy Research.

Chavez allies insist his government respects private property and deny plans for a state-controlled economy. They say more state spending is needed to distribute vast resources more fairly.

Many Venezuelans seem to agree: 56 percent polled in April said they considered Chavez's management positive for the country, even though only 27.6 percent described themselves as pro-government, with the largest group, 46 percent, describing themselves as neutral. The survey of 1,300 adults by Caracas polling firm Datanalisis had an error margin of 2.7 percentage points.

Still, polls show inflation is a top public concern, Datanalisis director Luis Vicente Leon said.

To boost buying power, Chavez raised the minimum wage by 30 percent to US$372 a month in May. But analysts say that only fuels inflation, and nearly half of Venezuela's workers — those employed in the informal economy — will never see the wage hike.

For them, rising prices and slowing growth may yet prove too much to bear.

Yorbelis Suarez, 25, sells vegetables at an open market in Caracas, where she pays three times what she did in March for her stock.

She has always voted for Chavez, but as for whether she would again, she shrugged. "Not if things continue this way."



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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 12:56 PM
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25. Despite oil wealth, Venezuelan economy cools as inflation rises, growth slows
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 12:57 PM by Bacchus39
By RACHEL JONES , Associated Press

http://www.startribune.com/business/19646609.html


Last update: June 8, 2008 - 7:22 PM

CARACAS, Venezuela - Mirina Kakalanos has been forced to double prices at her family's shoe store in the last year. Customers turn away after browsing the pumps and sandals, but Kakalanos says she has no choice.

"There is less money coming in, and more costs to cover," said the 40-year-old mother of three, whose Greek immigrant father opened the shop after moving to Venezuela in search of a better life. Now she barely makes enough to get by.

Boom times are waning in oil-rich Venezuela, even as world crude prices soar. Inflation is nearing 30 percent, the highest in Latin America, and annual economic growth slowed to 4.8 percent in the first quarter, a four-year low.

Analysts say President Hugo Chavez's economic policies are hindering private investment and growth just as he hopes to boost support ahead of November's regional elections. Many point to the economy as his Achilles' heel.

Already complaining of inflation and food shortages, voters last December rejected constitutional changes that would have allowed Chavez to run for re-election indefinitely — his first blow at the ballot box, where he had enjoyed four straight electoral and referendum wins.

Inflation has been a familiar problem, but a newly slowing growth rate is making it a more urgent concern.

Chavez plans to announce a package of economic measures to boost growth in coming days — and to name a new finance minister to lead the strategy, Information Minister Andres Izarra said.

Venezuela, the world's 10th-largest producer of crude, has seen its annual budget triple to US$63.9 billion since 2004 as oil prices soared. State oil monopoly Petroleos de Venezuela SA provides about half of the government's income.

Chavez pumped huge amounts of that revenue into social programs for the poor, flooding the economy with cash and fueling a consumer spending boom while banks increased lending.

Stanford University political scientist Terry Karl says oil booms always send growth soaring — until an economy reaches what she calls an "absorption crunch."

"You just can't absorb that huge influx of money properly," Karl said. "You get problems with your prices, you get problems of supply. ... All those bottlenecks slow down growth and eventually create inflation."

Like many oil-producing nations, Venezuela has a history of inflation, which reached 103 percent in 1996, two years before Chavez was first elected.

As prices now climb again, Chavez's government has tried to tame the trend — issuing US$4 billion in bonds in April to absorb excess cash, enforcing price controls on basic foods and holding the currency to a fixed exchange rate. It introduced a new monetary unit in January to boost confidence in its sagging "bolivar," and changed the way inflation is measured, incorporating data from smaller cities with less cash on hand.

The Central Bank embraced a more traditional anti-inflationary measure in March, raising interest rates on credit cards to 32 percent and on savings deposits to 10 percent to slow consumer spending.

But inflation is galloping, with rates of roughly 30 percent after running at nearly 20 percent a year earlier. And some of Chavez's tactics have backfired.

Price caps have caused sporadic shortages, as some food producers sought other, more profitable work. And foreign exchange controls make it harder for businesses to get dollars to buy imports, driving them to buy the U.S. currency on the black market, where it has sold at times for twice the official rate — further inflating prices.

Investors complain that these restrictions — not to mention the fear that their lands or companies could be taken over by the government — are making it harder to do business in Venezuela.

Antonio Borguno has run a successful paint solvent plant in northern Carabobo state for 30 years. But when it came time to expand last year, he decided to build the US$4 million plant in Panama.

"The economy is safer" there, he said.

Foreign direct investment fell to US$646 million in Venezuela last year, about half its average for the previous four years, according to the U.N. Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean.

Analysts warn that slowing flow of capital is a drag on the country's annual growth rate, which slowed to 4.8 percent at the end of the first quarter from 8.8 percent last year.

Chavez notes that Venezuela's growth handily beats the 0.9 percent annual gain seen in the U.S. in the first quarter. But developing economies typically grow faster: Latin America as a whole expanded by 5.6 percent last year, according to the International Monetary Fund.

On Sunday, Chavez urged businesses to invest in joint projects with his socialist government. "We want private capital to invest in Venezuela," he insisted, calling for an "alliance between the state and the private sector."

But more often, state investment has replaced private capital. Since 2007, Venezuela has nationalized its largest telephone, electricity, steel and cement companies and assumed majority control over four major oil projects. And political allies including China and Iran have pledged billions of dollars for joint investments.

That leaves some economists disputing the notion that Venezuela's economy is in trouble. "Nobody would complain in Latin America about 4.8 percent growth," said Mark Weisbrot, co-director of the Washington-based Center for Economic and Policy Research.

Chavez allies insist his government respects private property and deny plans for a state-controlled economy. They say more state spending is needed to distribute vast resources more fairly.

Many Venezuelans seem to agree: 56 percent polled in April said they considered Chavez's management positive for the country, even though only 27.6 percent described themselves as pro-government, with the largest group, 46 percent, describing themselves as neutral. The survey of 1,300 adults by Caracas polling firm Datanalisis had an error margin of 2.7 percentage points.

Still, polls show inflation is a top public concern, Datanalisis director Luis Vicente Leon said.

To boost buying power, Chavez raised the minimum wage by 30 percent to US$372 a month in May. But analysts say that only fuels inflation, and nearly half of Venezuela's workers — those employed in the informal economy — will never see the wage hike.

For them, rising prices and slowing growth may yet prove too much to bear.

Yorbelis Suarez, 25, sells vegetables at an open market in Caracas, where she pays three times what she did in March for her stock.

She has always voted for Chavez, but as for whether she would again, she shrugged. "Not if things continue this way."

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IggyReed Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:12 PM
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29. I love...
how the AP talks, in other articles, there being food riots all throughout the world then does a story about the price of food in Venezuela as a reason to not back the government. No commodity speculation, no attacks by elites in Venezuela to hoard food causing pain to people on purpose (which they openly announced), nothing to say about the capital of the rich going out of the country (Kennedy said during his administration here that allowing capital flight and the financial elites to undermine the ability of the government to provide social services was "absurd"). There's no logical connection now is there?

There are countries rich in oil, run by oligarchs who aren't interested in anything but enriching themselves and their Western investors. We hear nothing of them because that is the norm, it's expected.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:15 PM
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31. sure, and how is Saudi Arabia doing with their own revenues?
I guess we can say a repressive society run by a monarchy works too now can't we?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:36 PM
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35. That's just silliness. n/t
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:54 PM
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43. yes, your "reasoning" is just silliness. so are you supporting Obama?
our nominee. you don't support his agenda.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:35 PM
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34. Welcome to DU, IggyReed. You said it. n/t
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IggyReed Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:42 PM
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37. ...
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:50 PM by IggyReed
Define “works”. Saudis have what Venezuelans want, healthcare and education. The Venezuelan’s influence is beyond numbers though, so their attempts are much more dangerous to elites here. The Saudis have been used since the 50’s & 60’s by the West to beat back the left in the ME, especially when Nasser was a great influence. They (with the US, Britain, Pakistan & Israel amongst others) have worked to fund fundamentalist groups in the region (many of the ones now attacking these very countries) to fight back that influence. Venezuelans however have direct power in government and much more personal freedom. Venezuela has influenced countries to change their constitutions to give people much more direct power. The Saudis don’t have fought against that for decades with the US’ help and the government there is not interested in doing much of anything about wealth distribution.

The Saudis make their region as smooth as can be for investors and try as much as they can to consolidate their power, while fighting back any democratic influence. Venezuela is trying to fund regional INDEPENDENT development, trying to influence other countries to give regular people more direct power and to spread economic democracy. The two couldn’t be any different.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:12 PM
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40. so - what changed in the article that you had to post it twice?
Having trouble finding articles that support your lies? Stop spamming, it's rude.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:50 PM
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38. Washington Post: Rich nations copy Venezuela's anti-gang music schools
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:55 PM by Judi Lynn
Rich nations copy Venezuela's anti-gang music schools
By Jorge Silva and Frank Jack Daniel
Reuters
Monday, June 23, 2008; 1:30 PM

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's youth orchestras and choirs have helped thousands of children resist thug life in some of South America's most violent slums, and now wealthy countries are lining up to emulate the system.

Last year, the Los Angeles Philharmonic named Venezuelan conductor and the classical music world's brightest star Gustavo Dudamel, 27, as its next director, shining a spotlight on the remarkable network of music schools in which he was trained.

About 300,000 Venezuelan children, many from deprived city barrios, others from distant Amazon towns, now choose violins and trombones over guns and drugs, proving Mozart and Berlioz can be as fresh as rap beats even to 21st century youths.

"This is seen as the cutting edge project of classical music," Dudamel said. "To give children a future mixed with the sensitivity that music offers is unique."

More:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062300975.html

On edit, here's a different link if you don't wish to visit the Washington Post:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN17400674
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:44 PM
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41. Commie bastards!
Now we'll have to monitor our radios for pinko minuets!

:P
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:54 PM
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42. God only knows what they're putting in that subliminable stuff!


Could turn us ALL into commies behind our own backs!
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