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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:30 AM
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U.S. home prices fall in April at record rate
Source: MSNBC

NEW YORK - A closely watched index shows U.S. housing prices dropped in April at the fastest rate ever, with prices tumbling to levels not seen in nearly four years.

The Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller home price index of 20 cities released Tuesday fell by 15.3 percent in April versus last year. That marks the largest drop since its inception in 2000 and the first time all 20 metro areas posted annual declines.

Prices nationwide are at levels not seen since August 2004.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25346624/
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 08:48 AM
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1. Tumbled back
to more realistic values I'd guess. Anyone got an index to house values 4 years ago for example ?
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 04:36 PM
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2. 4 years ago prices were still grossly inflated
I think you need to go back 8-10 years to even approach realistic values.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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3. Four years of gains in home prices wiped out
Source: MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Home prices across 20 major U.S. cities have dropped a record 15.3% in the past year and are now back to where they were in the summer of 2004, according to the Case-Shiller home price index released Tuesday by Standard & Poor's.

Prices in the 20 cities are now down 17.8% from the peak two years ago.

Prices were lower in April than they were a year earlier in all 20 of the major metropolitan areas as tracked by the Case-Shiller index.

Las Vegas, Miami and Phoenix saw the biggest declines, with prices falling by 25% or more in the past year. Prices in 10 cities have fallen by more than 10%.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/four-years-home-price-gains-wiped/story.aspx
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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4. Amusing. Michigan Is Back Below 2000
and has been for some time.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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5. House prices rose more than just 18% from 2004
Hasn't house prices in major cities increased almost 10-20% each year for the last five years?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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7. All I know is that...
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 05:06 PM by Amerigo Vespucci
...single-family homes, worth perhaps $250K before the housing bubble, rose to over $750K in Silicon Valley.

These were two-to-three bedroom homes, single car garage, maybe 50+ years old, selling for three quarter of a million dollars, in "questionable" neighborhoods.

That kind of steady increase can't go on forever. It didn't. A dump is a dump. Realtors can CALL it a "fix-er-upper," but you can also put lipstick on a pig if you can hold it still long enough.

:patriot:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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10. It takes less of a % to get back to a lower number than it takes to get to a higher
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 05:19 PM by The_Casual_Observer
number. Or something like that. 20% off of 100 is 80, 20% more above 80 = 96. It's why %'s up & down in the stock market tend to lower the price too.

Of course this only makes sense if everything is boiled down to %'s up or down, which seems to be the way they express everything nowdays.



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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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6. And my paycheck has devalued 20% as well. Welcome to bUsh whACked world.
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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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8. Not my experience....Just sold a house that I bought in 2005 for 30% more than purchase price
But Im not in one of the overheated markets (Greensboro NC)
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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17. Greensboro is a total anomoly nationally.
It's had price inflation because it didn't have the tremendous run-up in prices like most places. The national "housing market" is really an aggregation of many regional markets.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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9. Good, housing is more affordable for people now
Well it would be if it weren't for out of control gas prices, college costs, health care costs, food costs, insurance costs, property tax increases and the devaluing of the dollar.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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11. The whole housing price collapse was engineered by the central banks speculators
...and hedge fund managers
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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16. The collapse was necessary.
It was the balloon that was the problem.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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12. The house prices would not have risen so fast
if there had not been lots of bad loans chasing the houses.

Thus they are probably going back to what they should be.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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13. You just can't beat
a viewpoint based on common sense.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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14. Here in Sacramento we need to wipe out at least 3 more years.
Prices have gone down just over 40% in terms of median and average prices. But we're still nowhere near where we need to be to return to the long-term, historical relationship between median income and median housing prices. With local unemployment at the highest since 1997, I see more decline ahead, despite the ridiculous cheerleading by local media and real estate industry "economists."
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:40 PM
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21. It's even worse in SF, San Mateo, and most of Santa Clara County...
Housing prices have barely budged except on the East Bay. This area is next and will have to go back 8-10 years for affordability to make sense.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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15. Way to go, Bushie!! Another Mission Accomplished(TM)!!!
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 PM
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18. Good
housing is a necessity not a part of your portfolio. My house is down 20% from its all time high and I don’t care - I plan on staying here the rest of my natural life.

If you paid $500,000 for a 50 year old GI Bill Special and planned on it appreciating to a million dollars by the time you retire, you’re a fucking idiot.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:36 PM
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19. They went up at a record rate, didn't they?


Housing prices have (used to have) a direct relationship to income. I hate it that they are going to spend 300 billion to "rescue" the "victims" of this greed. Let the banks take their lumps. Let the people who were speculating or otherwise in it for the money to lose. NOBODY should be bailed out. I suppose some people will plead financial ignorance, too bad.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 06:37 PM
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20. I'm in the middle of a divorce and am absolutely
screwed. Never took any equity out of the house. The price is now hovering just about what we paid for it 6 years ago. Truly sucks. I'll be lucky to break even if this market keeps tanking. I even played it smart, bought a small cheap house in a decent neighborhood. The house next door which is identical (built in 1898) sold for more than 45k more than I'm asking now. Just a mere 18 months ago. Timing is everything. :mad:
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