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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:47 AM
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Uruguay in gas field find claim
Source: BBC News

Uruguay says it may have found a large natural gas field that would change it from an importer to an exporter of gas.

The announcement of the possible find, which could also contain oil, was made by President Tabare Vazquez in a note on his official website.

Local reports say that the field could contain as much as three trillion cubic feet (85bn cubic metres) of gas but there has not yet been any drilling.
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This means that if the estimates are correct, the gas field would provide for its needs for the next 827 years.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7475546.stm
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:54 AM
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1. When I first heard about Paraguay as the base of Rev Moon - right
next to the aquafir, I told myself that they have probably found oil, also. Our most precious commodities for the future - water forever, oil near future.

I'm not sure which nations' corporations do all of the exploring, but if it is heavily US, they're not going to announce it until they take over the earth and the country where it is.

I'm glad it's Uruguay that has found some for now. Hope they can hang on to it.
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cat1985 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:20 AM
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2. Paraguay and South American energy
It is nice that a country which relies on energy imports has found enough to sustain itself, that along will have positive economic repercussions, before they decide to sell it. Hope they hang onto it too. It is surprising how much power in terms of energy South America is amassing, cue another OPEC style alliance for SA.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:44 AM
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3. Looks like Uruguay is going to become a very busy place, edwardy.
Also from the BBC News:
Page last updated at 12:04 GMT, Thursday, 26 June 2008 13:04 UK

Foreign buyers eye Uruguayan land
By Veronica Psetizki
Montevideo, Uruguay

Land in Uruguay is on average much cheaper than in Argentina

Between 2000 and 2006, overseas buyers snapped up a quarter of Uruguayan territory, according to the latest figures from the Ministry of Agriculture.

And real estate analysts believe there is no end in sight to this trend.

"Foreigners, especially Argentines and Europeans, are showing a strong interest in Uruguay," said Lucia Canepa, a real estate operator.

So why is this South American country, sandwiched between Argentina, Brazil and the Atlantic Ocean, so attractive to foreign investors?

"Uruguay is a small area in the broader region where buyers find better prices and political and economic stability," said Eduardo Caldeyro from Caldeyro-Stajano, a land sales broker.
More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7469731.stm


Now they may be known as something other than a good hideout for post WWII Nazis!

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:20 PM
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8. If I were 30 years younger, I would be buying
a house in Montevideo. They have somebeautiful old gems that need to be salvaged. The Uruguayos are a friendly lot, I guess you learn to get along when you're wedged between two big guys.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:54 AM
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4. Oooh...off the Coast of Punta del Este...
Punta del Este is one beautiful resort area.

I hope the drilling is done way off the coast..




Tikki
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:13 AM
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5. Uruguay's solidly with the leftist countries reversing the effects of neo-liberalism:
LATIN AMERICA: Governing Leftist Parties Discuss 'Change of Era'
By Ana Artigas

MONTEVIDEO, May 26 (IPS) - Supporting leftwing parties in government, strengthening democracy, redirecting the state towards its role in redistributing resources and promoting Latin American integration were major points of agreement at the 14th Sao Paulo Forum, which took place in the Uruguayan capital.

"We’re not just living through change, but a change of era, reflected in 13 Latin American countries," said Federico Gomensoro of Uruguay’s Frente Amplio (Broad Front), the party that hosted the Forum, which brings together leftwing political forces from Latin America and the Caribbean.

Gomensoro was referring to the countries, like Uruguay, currently governed by leftist, centre-left or progressive parties or coalitions.

The main challenge faced by these governments is to initiate projects to reverse the situations of injustice created by the neoliberal (free market) policies implemented in the 1980s and 1990s, he said.

The final document adopted by the Forum on Sunday emphasises the new situation in the region, especially "globalisation for the benefit of big capital," as well as environmental degradation, the financial crisis, soaring oil prices and speculation leading to food shortages -- all of which require new initiatives from the left, it says.

More:
http://www.ipsnews.net.nyud.net:8090/news.asp?idnews=42523



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/media/images/42666000/jpg/_42666267_070311_uruguay.416b3.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/media/images/42666000/jpg/_42666263_070311_uruguay.416b.jpg

http://www.losblogueros.net.nyud.net:8090/mt-weblog/fotos/fuera%20bush.jpg

Protesters of Bush's visit to their capital, Montevideo, Uruguay. "Fuera" means "get out."
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:29 PM
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6. Energy eh?
it won't be too long before the Bushevicks plan to invade them based on some trumped up claim.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:49 PM
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7. Well, that's interesting news. Natural gas is one of the major political/economic
issues in what U.S. military planners call the "Southern Cone" (southern South America). It is particularly important right now because of a Bush-funded and organized plot by white racists in gas-rich Bolivia's eastern provinces, to secede from the national government of Evo Morales (the first indigenous president of Bolivia--a largely indigenous country), and take the country's gas (and some oil) reserves with them; i.e., form fascist mini-states in control of the resources, to deny benefit of those resources to the poor majority. Typical dirty rotten Bushite scheme. They can't win elections in South America (not for lack of trying--millions of our tax dollars poured into rightwing groups), and they can't pull off successful coups and installations of fascist dictators.* So their plan now is to split South American countries up (similar plots in Venezuela and Ecuador), and create fascist mini-states where the elite gets richer by selling the country's resources to multinationals.

But there have been at least two monkey wrenches in this dirty rotten scheme in Bolivia. One, Brazil and Argentina--Bolivia's chief gas consumers--announced that they would not trade with any secessionist Bolivian states. The white racists might steal the country's gas reserves (by seceding), but who are they going to sell the gas to? Bolivia is land-locked. The Morales government has negotiated port access with Chile**, and, although Chile needs gas, and although the white racists might have feasible physical access to the Iquique, Chile, port--I can't quite tell from various maps--it is not likely that Chile's leftist government will recognize or trade with secessionist (fascist) Bolivian states. And Uruguay's gas find will make it even less likely that Chile would do so.

Two, Paraguay meanwhile elected a leftist as president, ending 60 years of rightwing (and Bush-friendly) rule; he (Fernando Lugo) wants the U.S. military out of his country, and is not likely to cooperate with U.S./Bush dirty rotten schemes against his neighbor, Bolivia, and the Morales government (his policies are kin to Morales and the Bolivarians). Paraguay doesn't have gas or oil, but it does have water--its major exports are hydroelectric power and soy. But Paraguay is also strategically placed and would likely have been a staging area for U.S./Bush ops into Bolivia (Paraguay is adjacent to the main secessionist province, Santa Cruz).

As I have often noted, Donald Rumsfeld--in a WaPo op-ed only six months ago***--urged "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America. The white racists in Bolivia's eastern provinces fit that bill (natural "friends and allies" of Bushites; Bushites have been supporting their plot to grab the gas/oil reserves). There are--as it turns out--similar Bushite schemes in Ecuador and Venezuela--rightwing groups in the oil rich provinces plotting to secede. In Venezuela, most of the oil is in Zulia province, which is adjacent to Colombia ($5.5 BILLION in U.S./Bush military aid to the fascist thugs running Colombia), and also to the Caribbean, where the Bushites plan to have the 4th Fleet (nuclear) up and running by mid-summer (roaming off the coast of Venezuela and its chief oil state, Zulia, whose fascist leaders have ALREADY MET with Colombian authorities including Bush tool, Alvaro Uribe, to discuss this plot.)

Bolivia is a testing ground for the Bushite secessionist scheme. It is not going well, for the reasons stated above, but its does have the happy collateral damage--from the Bushites' point of view--of creating chaos, conflict, destabilization (Rumsfeld's M.O.). Uruguay's discovery of a very big gas reserve complicates this picture. Uruguay is not far from Bolivia. It is an importer of gas, currently (I'm not sure who from). And it has a leftist government--not likely to trade with fascist secessionists. But this gas discovery in Uruguay does make Bolivia (and its secessionists) yet more dependent on Brazil and Argentina, who have adamantly stated they will not recognize secessionist states and will not trade with them. Chile might be a bit more inclined to do so--their government is more centrist than left (and mixed on "free trade"/neoliberalism)--but is not likely to, given the unpalatable fascism and racism of the separatists.

There is one other possibility for secessionist trade--and that would be if Peru permits transit of the gas (into Peru, to Peruvian ports) (--there is a piece of the secessionist Bolivian provinces that borders Peru). I don't know if this is even feasible, physically. I don't think any infrastructure exists (not sure). But Peru is the only Bush-friendly government left in South America (besides Bush Cartel client state, Colombia). It is currently run by very corrupt "free traders," who are destroying Peru the way other South American countries were destroyed in the 1990s--dictation of economic policy by the U.S. (creation of an import-addicted, urban-living, rich elite who sell their country's resources, labor and sovereignty to multinationals, and militarization of the society by the U.S. "war on drugs"--i.e, war on the poor). However, Peru's "free trade" government is very unpopular and will likely lose to a leftist in the next election cycle (2010? 2011?). I tend to doubt that it would risk offending the already angry, and well-organized, indigenous-led opposition, by openly supporting the white racists in Bolivia. And Peru would be ostracized from the new leftist community of nations in South America, and all of its many benefits--including the South American "Common Market" that is being formed.

The Bolivia secessionist states really have little choice but to negotiate with the Morales government, which is backed by almost every country on the continent, including gas consumers Brazil and Argentina. They have no way to market the gas, and almost no one to market it to. With nearby Uruguay's gas find, one more possibility has been eliminated (in the unlikely event they could have negotiated with the leftist Uruguayan government, when Uruguay was in need of gas).

The SOLIDARITY of the all the new leftist governments of South America is really having big impacts--politically, economically, socially. This solidarity--and its common goals, social justice and regional independence from the U.S.--has its basis in TRANSPARENT elections--and the consequent election of REAL representatives of the people--something we need to do here as well. Democracy is the strongest medicine against Bushite/global corporate predator evil.

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*See what Venezuelans thought of U.S./Bush coup attempts: "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," available at YouTube and at www.axisoflogic.com

**"Chile seeks ways to improve Bolivia's sea access"
Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:18pm EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1934127820080619?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

***"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html
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