Philadelphia man arrested over anti-police video

[Limelight]

Source: AP

PHILADELPHIA - A man who authorities say posted an Internet video showing himself waving a gun and claiming to rejoice whenever a police officer is shot in the city was arrested Thursday.
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Andre Moore, 44, of West Philadelphia, faces charges of aggravated assault, terroristic threats, corruption of morals of a minor and harassment, police Lt. John Walker said.

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An arrest warrant was issued for Moore after he was identified in the video, which was posted June 7, said Kevin Harley, spokesman for the state Attorney General's Office. The video was removed from YouTube following Moore's arrest at his apartment, police said.

"We believe these were terroristic threats that are not protected by the First Amendment, particularly when he encourages people to promote violence in Philadelphia and when he shows people how to use a gun to shoot a cop," Harley said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_re_us/anti_police_video

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Somebody call the ACLU for this guy cuz this is an utterly wanton abuse of power. I mean he taught people how to kill cops? Really? There was somebody out there that didn't know when you shoot people in the head or the heart they're probably gonna die? That's a grand revelation that endangers the entire Philly police force?

What utter horsesh*t.

First he needs to beat these bogus charges then he needs to sue the city and the state for all they're worth so he can get paid and buy a better camera for his next ridiculous yet harmless tirade.

[alphafemale]

1. GG Liddy said something on national radio about aiming for the head on BATF agents.

"If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head."

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1313

[baldguy]

5. But that was 1994 - Clinton was Pres then.

9/11 changed everything. And It'll change back once Obama is sworn in.

[DRoseDARs]

2. This appears to be 1stA case, but the premise of his video makes me not give a shit for him.

Seriously? I supposed to feel sympathy for someone advocating gun violence? It's one thing to be outraged by police brutality in Philly, it's another to advocate wanton murder in response.

The ACLU defended NAMBLA's free speech, so if they can stomach that they can handle this douchebag's defense too.

[comtec]

3. then with his millions he needs to see a fucking shrink!

yes he has the right to say whatever he wants, as long as he never actually schooled anyone in how to harm police officers.
The charges look so trumped u... compromising the MORAL of a minor>? WHAT THE FUCK!?

[Honeycombe8]

4. There are laws against inspiring others to cause harm to others. Glad the jerk was jointed.

It is against the law to inspire others to hurt others, whether you inspire by deed or words.

It is as true for this guy as it is for a KKK member to rejoice in the media every time a black person is killed...thereby inspiring others to get into the game.

Youtube should have a method in place to screen such illegal and harmful videos from its media.

[iaviate1]

6. Then the laws should be applied equally...

Just think of the people who made threats against Obama on national TV and are still walking around.

[depakid]

31. Dream on- Republicans are allowed to incite violence

and even the little guys- like the freeper anthrax hoaxer, get only the tiniest slap on the wrist.

This is a nation of men, not laws (didn't you get the memo?)

[atreides1]

8. And yet

Michael Reagan can call for the assassination of a political activist or advocate shoving grenades up the rectums of babies, and he's still got heard on radio!

[alphafemale]

26. Michael Reagan is completely insane. His lunatic ramblings remind me of Charlie Manson. nt

[cstanleytech]

9. Someone best tell that to McCain before he feels like breaking out into song again and sings

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

[Dogtown]

10. "inciting"

not inspiring. they have subtly different meanings.

One illegal, one not.

"Terrorist threats" clearly doesn't apply either. According to the article the guy did not state that he was going to kill anyone, just that he was glad when someone else did. "Grave dancing" is not illegal.

This mope should be aquitted, even if the DA issues a warrant in this ridiculous case. And he certainly has a case for "false imprisonment".

[milou]

19. Imminent violence and jeopardizing national security

Those are two of the few things that are unprotected by the 1st. Advocating violence is legal, if something happens you may end up in civil court. That's the beauty of the 1st Amendment, it protects all speech, and should. I don't like hate speech, but I think it should protected, because it's the government that decides what hate speech is.

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. And how many rap musicians sing the exact same song as this guy?

Waving guns around and singing about how glad they are when cops get gunned down. How often are they arrested and booked on charges like these?

The fact is, the video is a lot more innocuous than many rap videos. Why should it be treated differently?

[fascisthunter]

16. Well Then... we should lock up most Fox News Pundits

and plenty of right radio talk show hosts. Daily we hear right wingers inciting violence against Peace Activists.

[harun]

30. No kidding they do that every day.

[tuckessee]

7. The pigs are worried that the peasants are getting restless. n/t

[AllentownJake]

12. Actually

Most of the "Pigs" are peasants as well. As the grandson of a state trooper these guys don't live in mansions and for the most part are good people doing good things.

[tuckessee]

14. It's a mentality.

The elite has always been supported by a class of rabble who act as their thugs.

[AllentownJake]

15. In Philadelphia

It is run by liberal democrats and has been since before I was born. Is Michael Nutter and "elite thug"

[tuckessee]

18. Well, we all know Philly cops are saints.

The eptimome of virtue and nobility.

Never have they abused a non-cop nor have they ever enforced an unjust law nor shaken down a motorist for arbitrary violations.

Never have they covered up for their comrades because they are so perfect there's nothing to cover up. I'm sure no Philly cop has ever committed perjury or falsified documents.

Graft, corruption and cronyism have never existed in the ranks of Philly's Phinest.

Philly cops are different than any other other police force in the world.

Untouchable, uncorruptable, shining examples of pure hearted brave nobleness

:sarcasm:

[LanternWaste]

21. Much in the same way we

"Well, we all know Philly cops are saints."


Much in the same way we "know" all cops are wife-abusers, all teachers are child molesters, and all liberals are commies.

I imagine that if one stupid, rather ignorant, sweeping generalization based on bumper-sticker philosophy is correct, they all are...

[tuckessee]

22. One thing is for sure.

The vast majority of cops are at least enablers of evil simply based on the lack of whistleblowing within the ranks.

[LanternWaste]

23. odds are he's an enabler of evil...

I'll let my brother in law know that odds are he's an enabler of evil...

I'm sure he'll appreciate the depth of wisdom and breadth of knowledge a statement like that illustrates (after he beats his wife and kids-- 'cause cops are like that, dontcha know...).

Sheesh.

[tuckessee]

25. Where did you come up with the wife beating shit?

Is that fantasy of yours or a freudian slip?

But do tell your relative he should not enforce unjust laws or cover up/keep quiet for his buddies (fellow gang members).

If he's really a decent soul, he'll move away from being a jackboot for the state and engage some useful, honest profession.

[LanternWaste]

28. Well, it's merely a hop, skip and jump from being An Enabler of Evil

Well, it's merely a hop, skip and jump from being An Enabler of Evil to Wife Beating, right? And who am I to discourage someone's petty, fictional dreams that all cops (sorry-- 'Pigs') are evil...?

That aside, if he's a really decent soul, he'll simply laugh off your baseless (though trendy), bumper-sticker philosophies that double as T-shirt slogans and do his job...

But yeah-- all cops are enablers of evil, all teachers are child molesters, any one who has faith in a religion are stupid, all liberals are commies, etc... We've heard it all before.


:eyes:

[Occulus]

27. Several years ago a police deputy slammed my back into a doorknob in my apartment

There were six witnesses, all of the police or trainees (yes, SEVEN officers total for a noise complaint). The impact cracked a rib; it was visible on the X-ray. The radiologist couldn't find anything, and none of the other police came forward.

Another time, a towtruck driver tried to illegally tow my car away (the same company had towed the car my roommate owned in another complex we were living in prior to this). He attacked my roommate with a metal bar from his truck and repeatedly struck him, leaving a bar-shaped, purple scrape and a large bruise. The responding police tried to arrest (NOT question) my roommate, despite his bruises. They didn't get away with that because I saw the whole thing, but if I hadn't been there...

Never mind all the incidents involving police and gay people generally.

I. Don't. Trust. Police. It started in 1995, when an officer on patrol pulled up to me while I was walking home from the store one day and, literally completely out of the blue, began questioning me about who I was, where I had been, where I was going, where I lived, how long I'd been out, etc. There was nobody else on the sidewalks in my line of sight. It spooked me to hell and back and I've never looked at police the same way since.

What police defenders fail utterly to realize is that a citizen's trust in police and the authority they hold is shockingly brittle. Once broken, the lost trust isn't suffered by the person wearing the uniform, but rather, the uniform itself. And when police in this country look like this:



it's impossible to remove the person from the uniform. Would you be able to ID an officer you know, were he wearing that get-up?

(I just noticed something. In the picture above, each riot shield has "State Police" printed on it, but when they're all lined up like that, it ends up reading as "Police State" over and over again. While probably meaningless, it's still interesting from a visual standpoint.)

And that very secrecy of identity reinforces the mistrust! It goes 'round and 'round, each element of police behavior in general locking in the others all the tighter.

I can't trust a police officer when he's wearing that sort of uniform, and seeing it on one erodes my faith in others because I know they would wear the same things in the same situation. They have an apparent need to do some things in secret, behind a plastic mask hiding their identity from those they supposedly "serve". That alone makes them not to be implicitly trusted at all.

[LanternWaste]

29. And four years ago, a cop saved my life.

And four years ago, a cop saved my life while risking his own. And like you, I've never been able to look at police the same way since. But anecdotal irrelevancies aside...



Trust police, or don't-- that's the prerogative of each individual person, and I don't think anyone on this thread has implied differently.

My only point to the previous poster is that sweeping generalities are logical fallacies; and if they're not, then teachers are child molesters, liberals are commies, etc...

[fascisthunter]

17. very true about that

[Arctic Dave]

13. Why do I have the feeling that if he was advocating

doing this to Iraqis he would be a repug media darling. I'm just sayin.

[High Plains]

20. These charges are bogus. The city of Philadelphia will pay out in the end.

No threats, no incitement, just an angry guy with a dumb message.

I think what he's really guilty of is contempt of cop.

[HuffleClaw]

24. so, only drug-addled radio hosts are permitted to 'incite' ?

what a sham of a prosecution