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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:41 PM
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McCain OpEd Not Up to NY Times' Snuff
Source: ABC News

ABC's Rick Klein and Sara Just report: This is not the easiest week for John McCain to get equal time in the media - not with so many journalists in the Middle East to report on Barack Obama's trip there. And the New York Times op-ed page isn't making it any easier.

As first reported by The Drudge Report, Sen. John McCain, R-AZ, submitted an opinion piece to the New York Times last week and the paper has rejected it.

A week earlier, the paper published an op-ed by Obama, about the Democrat's plans for troop draw-down in Iraq. A few days later, the McCain campaign submitted a column rebutting the Obama piece.

According to McCain campaign staffers, the Times rejected the McCain piece and asked for a rewrite to respond directly to some of the claims in the Obama piece, and include an outline of the Republican's timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq and conditions for withdrawal.

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"It would be terrific to have an article from Sen. McCain that mirrors Sen. Obama's piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms how Sen. McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory -- with troop levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate."

Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/mccain-oped-not.html



Run it NY Times. Let us judge the lies and obfuscations. Otherwise you're giving all the RW whiners a talking point about the "Liberal Media".
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:43 PM
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1. screw m.c.johnny....you want to write an opinion piece, write one...
you want to run an ad, buy one...
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:45 PM
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2. Run it...
and let every lame point be shot down the way it should be. Running one from one candidate and not the other smacks of fascism.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:49 PM
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3. Is it a rejection if they're asking for revision? n/t
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:51 PM
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4. Jeez, the director is just asking the screenwriter for some re-writes.
Punch up a few scenes, drop a few things. Nothing to see here. Move along.

mikey_the_rat
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:52 PM
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5. They also asked that the revision be submitted in something OTHER THAN
crayon.

:rofl:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:05 PM
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6. No McCain, but Bill Kristol "measures up"?
I don't get it.

:shrug:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:11 PM
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8. No kidding
Who knew the Times had standards? That seems pretty old media to me. Not only do they run Kristol's red crayon scribblings, but they also publish Roger In-Cohen-herent, David Brooks-no-logic and Maureen Dowd-y. Can't see why they'd single out McCain to have to write something that makes actual sense.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:11 PM
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7. Lol "We need all of our submissions to be in Word98 or newer, and to be done by email."
Uh oh... stil haven't gotten those intenet tubes detanglurised yet. :(
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:15 PM
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9. Ouch. Now *that's* cold. (nm)
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:15 PM
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10. Since when do Repukes believe in equal time in the media?
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 02:17 PM by CC
So Johnny McSame feels like Obama is getting more coverage and instead of writing an op-ed like Obamas he sends one in most likely full of lies. The NYT ask for a rewrite that includes McSames plans in as much detail as Obama's. Course McSame can't do that since it would be harder to change his stance with each audience if people actually had a stance from him in print he doesn't control. The NYT has every right to not publish a free ad and request at the minimum as well thought out op-ed from McSame as Obama provided. If McSame wants to get free press then he needs to risk himself being held accountable to his stance on things.
This after hearing him whine that the major networks HAVE to give him as much coverage as Obama is getting on his world tour. Excuse me idiots in the GOP but you could have brought back the equal time rule when you controlled everything.

Damn GOP, if they aren't bitching they are whining while they fill their coffers and screw us all.

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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:17 PM
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11. Sorry NYTimes, you can't justify the unjustifiable. Shut the F Up and
PRINT!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:48 PM
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15. To write is to be rejected. Suck it up, make corrections and resubmit.
If the op ed is poorly written, it would be to McCain's benefit to make the corrections. The NYT might have done him a favor. A poorly written article might have been used against him.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:03 PM
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17. exactamente. Of course they did McLame a favor.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:06 PM
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18. True. Printing crap is not in his interests.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:29 PM
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12. I'm with the NYT on this one-- the Times has no obligation to serve...
...as a mouthpiece for neoconservative obfuscation and talking points. I think they did exactly the right thing, i.e. offer to print a substantive piece outlining real policy proposals, but refusing to run the same ol' same ol' smoke and mirrors.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:34 PM
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13. It's too bad
That they don't have two rooms with Obama in one and Johnny in the other and give them a pen and paper and have them write out what they want for Iraq and how they will do it. 1 hour later Obama would probably need more paper and Johnny a pen because his doesn't write. Why don't they say the truth about Johnnies OPEd that he is more like Bush in oh soooo many ways.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:04 PM
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16. Well that wouldn't be fair you see
What McPoopypants really would need is a sandbox and some dirt. Or maybe some coagulated buffalo blood and a cave wall.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:36 PM
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14. Articulate? From McCain?
They'd have to hire out to get that written. Apparently neither the candidate nor any of his staff are capable of expressing themselves with any skill.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:53 AM
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20. pResident John "Inarticulate Rageaholic" McSame
Now that's a ticket any red blooded Amur'kan can get behind. I still don't believe he's going to be the Republic nominee.

Regardless, we need to fill some seats in the House and Senate while this massive circle jerk is keeping everyone else occupied. They don't deserve to hang on to a single one of them.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:52 AM
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19. Young Republicans, blue about prospects ahead
Young Republicans, blue about prospects ahead
Gen-Nexters are feeling left out of the party
By Krissah Williams Thompson
MSNBC-Washington Post updated 12:01 a.m. ET, Tues., July. 22, 2008


David All glanced around Top of the Hill bar and saw the future of the Republican Party. It looked dim. A who's who of young conservatives had gathered, but they were few, and they were frustrated.

--snip--

"When Reagan was president, I was 9 years old, doing cannonballs and watching 'Rambo,' " says All, 29, who prominently displays the requisite grip-and-grin photos of himself with President Bush in the office of his own L Street consulting firm. He recalled that first Republican presidential debate of the 2008 campaign, held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California; it was a veritable Reagan love-fest, with each contender claiming to be more like the conservative icon than his opponents. They sounded like old fogies and intoned the icon's name at least a dozen times.

--snip--

"For me, I don't even know what that means," All says. "The Republicans are sort of talking down to Gen-Nexters, not bringing them in."

"You don't hear Barack Obama going around saying, 'I'm John F. Kennedy.' He's saying, 'I'm Barack Obama,' " All says. "There's a reason for that. He's inspiring an entire generation, and it's a generation that's trying to change the world in 160 characters or less through text messages."


And John McCain? His campaign has never sent All a text message, he complains.
It's the little things like that, along with poor communication on the big issues such as Iraq and the economy, that have caused the GOP brand to slip with younger Americans, even as they have grown more political.

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cheer up young repub - it was announced yesterday that McCain is no longer a cyber-virgin and made his first attempt to search "the google" on the internetS tubes. won't be long before you have a new BFF sending you messages complete with smilie faces.

meanwhile - you can get some excitement playing McCain's ripoff of space invaders and waste a few seconds playing PORK INVADERS http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000956.shtml









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Stingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:34 AM
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21. Affirmative Action
That's what the McCain camp wants, affirmative action for Republican candidates who refuse to define what victory means.
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