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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:43 PM
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Bosnian Serb wartime president arrested
Source: MSNBC

Bosnian Serb wartime president arrested
The war crimes fugitive, Radovan Karadzic is twice indicted for genocide


NBC News Web Extra
BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC News Services
updated 3 minutes ago

BELGRADE - Bosnian Serb wartime president Radovan Karadzic, one of the world's most wanted men, has been arrested in Serbia, Serbian government and judicial sources said on Monday.

Karadzic is twice indicted for genocide for the 43-month siege of Sarajevo which claimed 12,000 lives and for orchestrating the 1995 massacre of some 8,000 Muslims at Srebrenica, the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II.

President Boris Tadic's office says in a statement that Karadzic was arrested on Monday evening "in an action by the Serbian security services." He has been hiding since 1998.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25787633/



Hey Ratso, Keep your cellblock open. We've got a few that need to join you.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:55 PM
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1. RE your comment--are you thinking of Ratko Mladic?
He's still at large, unfortunately, and I hope they find his sorry ass soon, too.

They can both rot in hell.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:30 PM
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19. I only just heard the news.
I can scarcely believe they've finally nabbed Karadzic, but this gives me real hope they will bring in Mladic too. If ever people deserved the cell, this pair does.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:03 PM
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2. I pray the day comes when our criminals are held accountable too.
Who is responsible for killing nearly a million Iraqi civilians and 4000+ American military personnel? Who is responsible for the HUGE debt we have grown on this illegal war? Who is responsible for MILLIONS of wounded and mentally/emotionally wounded from this nightmare??

I think we all know who is responsible. When will we hold THEM accountable?????
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:39 PM
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4. I'd say they'd better pick their foreign vacations very carefully.
Naturally, the congress will never go after them, but several foreign countries and the International Criminal Court might.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:00 PM
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9. No country will ever arrest a former US president.
They might deny entry, but no one will ever arrest Bush except Americans.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:17 PM
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12. I don't know. Sometimes it takes years for something like this to happen.
Bush is unpopular now and most Americans haven't got a clue about how bad he's screwed up the country. Give it a few years and let's see if anyone will get too upset about W. being led to the dock.

Of course, I guess, this presuposses W. would ever leave the country. He does so hate those dumb foreigners and their funny talk. If a lucretive speaking engagement were in the offing, maybe. . .
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:52 PM
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16. Believe it or not, most Americans would rally around the SOB if he was arrested.
As would the sitting US president and Congress.

No way would Americans let another country imprison a former president (even Bush), nor would any country even try.

The worst they would do is deny his entry VISA, but never would they arrest him.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:53 AM
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27. I doubt many countries would even deny him a VISA
You forget that the leaders of most countries Bush would likely visit are offering some sort of support in the Middle East conflicts even if it's under a separate umbrella.

Bush will live out his days visiting his old friends around the world and there's not much anyone is going to do to be able to stop it.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:27 AM
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21. why don't we talk about THIS guy in this thread?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:39 PM
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3. Sic aliquando tyrannis. (nt)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:42 PM
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5. Fuck him
The death penalty should be on the table after he is found guilty.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:43 PM
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6. Wait for Pat Buchannan to tells us what a sweetheart Karadzic is.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:46 PM
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7. I thought they already had this guy
Who am I thinking of?
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:57 PM
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8. Milosevic, maybe?
Dropped dead in his cell during his trial.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:05 PM
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10. Ah yep
Thanks. Well more bad rubbish to say cya to then.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:08 PM
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11. Pay attention, George. This could happen to YOU one day.
And I sincerely hope it DOES.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:30 PM
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13. This news story gives me hope. Hope is what I live for.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:57 PM
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14. Thank you. I have been eagerly awaiting the day this monster was captured.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:02 PM
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15. Good. It will help Serbia in the long run.
Their patriarch was against that man, against the war, against all of it and on our side. If only everyone had listened to him instead.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:29 AM
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22. It certainly gives them cred on the world stage
Which Patriarch do you mean?
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:50 AM
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23. The Serbian Patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Good man. He told priests to open up churches and monasteries to anyone and everyone, regardless of ethnicity or faith. When he heard that a few priests were siding with those monsters, he disciplined them. He constantly preached to all that the hatred and the war were evil and tried his best to help people.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:19 PM
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30. Sounds like an alright cat
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:44 PM
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17. Top War Crimes Suspect (Former Serbian President Radovan) Karadzic Arrested in Serbia
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 08:27 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Associated Press

Top war crimes suspect Karadzic arrested in Serbia
By DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press Writer
2 minutes ago

BELGRADE, Serbia - Former Bosnian Serb President Radovan Karadzic, accused architect of massacres and the politician considered most responsible for the deadly siege of Sarajevo, was arrested Monday evening in a Serbian police raid ending his 13 years as the world's most-wanted war crimes fugitive.

His alleged partner in the persecution and "cleansing" of tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Croats, former Bosnian Serb military chief Ratko Mladic, remained at large.

A psychiatrist turned diehard Serbian nationalist politician, Karadzic is the suspected mastermind of mass killings that the U.N. war crimes tribunal described as "scenes from hell, written on the darkest pages of human history." They include the 1995 massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Srebrenica, Europe's worst slaughter since World War II.

"This is a very important day for the victims who have waited for this arrest for over a decade. It is also an important day for international justice because it clearly demonstrates that nobody is beyond the reach of the law," said Serge Brammertz, the tribunal's head prosecutor.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/serbia_karadzic
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:44 PM
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18. I pray that I someday see that headline a little bit differently.
Top War Crimes Suspect (Former United States President George W.) Bush Arrested in Serbia


Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:20 AM
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20. This only gets 19 responses?
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 01:32 AM by HEyHEY
Jesus Christ people. This is massive.

There's only a handful of responses here that even relate to this topic. Do you people even care about something other than your own internal issues? Fuck.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:06 AM
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24. Score one for justice!
It's nice to see this happen.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:06 PM
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28. When I was watching
The news on this last night. I couldn't help by feel an overwhelming sense of futility though.... this dude is responsible (Partly) for some horrific things. ANd it seems justice can never really be found in such a case, but I guess we do our best.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:38 AM
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25.  Fugitive Karadzic hid as bearded medic
(CNN) -- Bosnian Serb war crimes fugitive Radovan Karadzic was working at a medical practice in Belgrade using a false identity and heavily disguised by a snow white beard before his arrest brought an end to more than a decade on the run, Serbian officials said Tuesday.

Karadzic -- one of the world's most wanted men for his alleged role in atrocities committed during the 1990s Balkans conflict -- was arrested in Belgrade after a weeks-long covert operation to track down the former leader, said proesecutor Vladimir Vukcevic.

At a news conference in Belgrade on Tuesday, authorities displayed a recent picture of Karadzic that showed him with short white hair, a long white beard and glasses. Before he went on the run, Karadzic was clean-shaven with a mop of salt-and-pepper hair.

Karadzic is accused of ordering the deadly siege of Sarajevo and some of the worst atrocities in Europe since World War II -- including the 1995 massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Srebrenica.

Serbian minister Rasim Ljajic told Tuesday's news conference that Karadzic, 63, was using false documents giving him the name of "Dragan Dabic" and a non-Serbian identity at the time of arrest.

more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/22/serb.arrest/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCText

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:20 AM
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26. Amazing he could hide 'in plain sight'
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:20 AM by muriel_volestrangler
I suppose the picture above doesn't like much like this:



shows how much a beard really does do to change a face. I also suppose that getting a new source of income means he wasn't relying on other people to support him - less to turn him in, or give something away by accident. And alternative medicine has the advantage of not needing real qualifications that can be checked.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:16 PM
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29. This is one of the greatest moments of justice in recent memory.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:32 PM
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31. What an evil man.
It's shocking that he managed to evade justic this long. I'm glad they finally caught him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:38 PM
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32. No difference in him and bushitler. When will bushitler be arrested?
K & R
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:15 PM
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33. Yes, there is a difference
Talk about bush elsewhere
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:45 PM
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36. Oh what the beard and mustache'?
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:33 PM
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37. Why are they different?
They're both genocidal maniacs responsible for the deaths of thousands. If Bush and Karadzic aren't evil incarnate, then nobody is.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:45 PM
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38. I won't waste time explaining it to you.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:24 AM
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39. Karadzic sounds more like an internet nutter
When Dabic presented himself as a doctor, a New Age psychiatrist, and submitted a four-part series on Christian Orthodox meditation, Kojic asked to see his diploma. Dabic claimed that his ex-wife had kept it and left the country.

Then Kojic typed "Dragan David Dabic" into an Internet search engine and nothing came up.

He began publishing the series anyway, but told its author that instead of signing it as a doctor, he would have to sign it, "David Dabic, Spiritual Researcher." <...>

Karadzic was also running a website, which he called Human Quantum Energy. On it he was offering treatment for impotence and depression and hawking metal amulets as protection against radiation and other ills.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-warcrime23-2008jul23,0,7103365.story
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:24 PM
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34. Fry the bastard.
:grr:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:41 PM
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35. Hiding in plain sight, apparantly- in a Gerry Garcia disguise!


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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:01 AM
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40. He looks like "Mall Santa"
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:13 PM
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41. Guilty of inciting genocide, murder, torture and the systematic rape of over 50,000 women
Hell would be too cool for this monster.
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