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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:19 AM
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Taliban kills Pakistani officers
Source: al Jazeera and agencies

Pro-Taliban fighters have killed three Pakistani army intelligence officers and taken 30 police officers hostage in the northwestern Swat valley.

The security officials were killed in retaliation for the torture of Taliban prisoners in custody, Taliban officials told Al Jazeera on Tuesday.

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A spokesman for Maulana Fazlullah, a cleric who is leader of the Taliban in Pakistan, accepted responsibility.

"We have killed them because people from the security agencies arrest our people and brutally torture them," the spokesman, Muslim Khan, told Reuters news agency.



Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2008/07/200872943547403770.html
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:41 PM
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1. Yeah, Swat.
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 02:41 PM by igil
Where on-again/off-again military action is followed up with peace deals.

39 girls' schools burned down in the last month or so in the valley, not counting those converted into girls' schools run Talib-style. This, in spite of one point of thepeace deal showing respect for girls' education. Talibs *were* respecting it, they said, but the character of the education provided by the government was perverted. Ten the burnings were justified because the government dawdled in implementing its side, Then because the government didn't live up to the Talib's new-and-improved interpretation of the agreement.

It's always some problem, but always the same narrow set of answers. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sa3udiyya, Algeria.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:51 PM
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2. Well, yeah, but why are they winning?
How come the mighty, enlightened western forces are unable to stop these guys? Why are we following the Russians down this imperialist rathole, and not doing much better at it than they did?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:58 PM
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3. "They" are pushing the Pakistani military out of "Sharia stan"

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.2375051775
Pakistan thinks they still own the badlands.
No
They never held authority over that "foreign" land but claim sovereignty in order to appease their future rulers ? They made their point everytime they sign a peace deal and reneg before the ink is dry ! lmao


And surprisingly, the ISI is pointing the finger in another direction to cover their own asses with the monster they created ;
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/102714.cms



Pakistan's department of peace failed to 'reason' with them,the country is on the brink of collapse and they have to decide soon if they are actually two sovereign nations trapped inside a western drawn border world


....unless they melt away into submission through debate then it will be a moot point


Time to "Divide and conquer" ?


Can't argue with the fact they are a house divided....
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:06 PM
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4. That does not answer the question "Why", that I asked.
As you say, Pakistan never did control to tribal areas, but the question was about the USA, what it is up to, and why it is failing too.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:42 AM
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5. They're a loosely aligned bunch of nomads who know the hills
and holes like the back of their hand.

Also, the U.S. pays this one and that one, actually believing some of these guys are loyal enough to help. yuk yuk snort.
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