Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Turley: 'Pathetic' if Monica Goodling takes fall for Bush officials

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:30 AM
Original message
Turley: 'Pathetic' if Monica Goodling takes fall for Bush officials
Source: Rawstory

While a recent report on illegal politicization of the Justice Department is a good first step in introducing accountability to the Bush administration, it would be "pathetic" if culpability stops with midlevel aides like Monica Goodling, a constitutional expert says.

Monday's report from the Justice Department's Inspector General and Office of Professional responsibility concluded that Goodling and Kyle Sampson, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales's chief of staff, acted illegally in eliminating applicants for career department jobs on the basis of political affiliation or sexual orientation.

Calling the Goodling/Sampson efforts "like the Voldemort department of human resources," constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley tells MSNBC's Keith Olbermann that the report offers "a glimpse at just how unhinged the Bush Justice Department became."

Turley says the 146-page report (available here) provides some information that had not previously been disclosed in congressional investigations of the firing of nine federal prosecutors, which is believed to have been politically motivated. But he says more investigation is needed to determine whose idea it was to staff the department almost exclusively with Republican loyalists.



Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Turley_Pathetic_if_Monica_Goodling_takes_0729.html



Well, with the lack of spines in the Democratic Leadership (most notably Conyers and Pelosi) "pathetic" is an apt description.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:31 AM
Response to Original message
1. Nixon wasn't even this bad. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Nixon was a choir boy compared to the thugs in office now. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
8.  I agree, Nixon was in a different league.
And I remember thinking how bad he was.. This crowd is beyond anything I could imagine then..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. Ditto.............Bush is a peice of garbage and criminal too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:49 AM
Response to Original message
3. I was wondering yesterday if the buck would stop with a mid-level aide. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. Just as low ranking soldiers went down for AG prisoner abuse.
Never mind Rumsfeld, Rove, etc. Who thinks Scooter Libby wont be simply pardoned in the end? Law doesn't apply to folks high enough in the chain of command. Sick of it. What's this teaching OUR kids? What's it teaching other countries?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. It's teaching them that cronyism works, crime pays, and integrity is for paupers. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #3
23. like Abu Gharaib -- the Bush League cowards will paint it as a few bad apples
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
4. While it's become more and more obvious that the Bush administration
worked to staff all federal departments and agencies with loyal Bushies, I don't know if Monica would have needed much direction in that from anyone above her. She seemed to be a rabid partei-uber-alles kind of gal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Which is why she was hired, wouldn't you think? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Yes, but in order to hold anyone above her accountable, wouldn't there have to be some proof
that she was directed to make these decisions that broke the law? That proof may not exist. Monica may have been so eager to serve the Glorious Leader that she came up with this plan all by herself. Or she may have been directed more subtly, with some nudge-nudge, wink-wink conversations that could never be proven.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
6. It's a sad statement when something is "pathetic" is actually something that is
also hopeful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
7. Here's the plea deal they should offer her:
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 11:55 AM by Barrymores Ghost
Give up Gonzales and Rove, and you get off with a slap on the wrist...10 years probation, lose your license to practice law in any state and lose your right to ever hold any public office.

If you cop the nickel, refuse to implicate your superiors, or get caught in a lie, we're going for 15-20 years on multiple felony counts with no chance for parole at a maximum-security facility in the Virginia prison system.

I'll bet she'll ask them what key they'd like her to sing in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. she already got immunity to testify before a committee
(sorry I don't remember which one) she won't be going to jail but others could
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. unless she lied then her immunity is gone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Wish that would happen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
14. Anyone know where Pat's Skool 'a Lawerin' is located"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Regent University
is located in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_University
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
15. Just more of that 'a few bad apples' system of accountability that passes for
justice in the blivet administration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Hah... I just learned what "blivet" means.
Good word for 'em. :thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:50 PM
Response to Original message
16. Pathetic, but better than if no one does.
And she so richly deserves to take a fall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:08 PM
Response to Original message
19. I don't care what happens to her. She is still a slimy Rpig.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:19 PM
Response to Original message
22. Unfortunately, only *we* here listen to TURLEY, John DEAN, and Keith. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:08 AM
Response to Original message
24. HEADS UP --- Hearing on Politicizing DOJ TODAY
Hearing on Politicizing DOJ
Today
http://www.c-span.org/

Monica Goodling, former White House liaison at the Justice Dept., allowed politics to influence the hiring of attorneys, the DoJ's Inspector General reported yesterday. The Senate Judiciary Cmte. hears about the impact of these practices from I.G. Glenn Fine.

C-SPAN Video Library: Monica Goodling
on C-SPAN3 at 10am (ET)
Justice Illegally Used Politics
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:10 AM
Response to Original message
25. LET her take the fall? They're COUNTING ON IT.
When will these starry-eyed little college Puke types wake up and realize that they are nothing more than tools for their Party Masters (aka Thieves)? Goodling, with her hero worship of Bush, was the perfect tool and now they'll snicker while she takes the heat for them.

Why don't these fools wake up??????

Bake
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:26 PM
Response to Original message
26. the silence of Mukasey is very revealing -- getting his Newsspeak together?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC