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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:46 PM
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House Of Representatives Apologizes For Slavery, Jim Crow Laws
Source: AHN


July 30, 2008 12:52 p.m. EST

Amy Beeman - AHN


Washington, D.C (AHN) -- The House of Representatives issued an official apology Tuesday to African-American's for imposing slavery and Jim Crow laws on their ancestors.

The apology, the first in the 140 years since slavery was abolished, was initially introduced by Steve Cohen (D-TN), who represents Memphis, a majority black city.

The unprecedented apology to black American's has been avoided in the past because some in the government were concerned that to admit their wrongs would mean black families who sue for reparations would have a stronger case.

Cohen's resolution said that Africans forced into slavery ''were brutalized, humiliated, dehumanized and subjected to the indignity of being stripped of their names and heritage,'' and that black Americans still suffer from the effects of their families long being segregated, defined as second class citizens, and being denied the same rights and respect as white American's.

Cohen said in the apology, ''Slavery and Jim Crow are stains upon what is the greatest nation on the face of the earth." He added that this apology is a step toward righting the wrongs the government imposed on African-American's for hundreds of years.



Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011777947
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:53 PM
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1. Gee, the government is so punctual with these apologies!
:sarcasm:

I guess its an unwritten rule to wait until most or all of the victims are dead, in order to avoid those pesky reparations and god forbid medical treatment.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:25 PM
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18. Polishing an Apple for Obama?
Who didn't come here as a slave anyway, and might have slave owners in his background....

Well, better late than never. It's the thought that counts....
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:55 PM
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2. when are they going to apologize to the native americans
the mexicans, women, children, and all the other species that we've managed to harm?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:02 PM
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3. Based on the current time table
sometime around 2308 I would guess.

Give my regards to Capt. Kirk when you see him!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:05 PM
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5. Some time between now and then the House might apologize
Some time between now and then the House might apologize for taking the impeachment of Bush and Cheney off the table in 2007.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:50 PM
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21. I'm still waiting for an apology for my Jewish ancestors
They were run out of Spain during the Inquisition. Thank goodness Henry VIII took them in as court musicians (after they languished in Venice for a few years).
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:04 PM
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4. Is it just me, or should they be focussing on energy & foreign policy
instead of wasting time on stupid symbolic gestures like this?

:eyes:
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:06 PM
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6. Jim Crow is alive and well...
This is not something from the past...IT'S IN THE PRESENT!
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:12 PM
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8. examples please
Got any examples of it being alive and well in America?
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Kweli4Real Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:03 PM
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11. Examples???
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 03:15 PM by Kweli4Real
Okay, how about the rampant discrimination in housing, employment, financing and public accommodations? To even question whether Jim Crow has survived betrays a lack of understanding of what Jim Crow is. The history books define less than a third of the practice ... the de jure portion; the majority of Jim Crow was/is societal and institutional, with no written prohibitions.

But that being said, as an African-American , I think I speak for many African-Americans when I say "Thank for the apology, but no thanks." Especially, since only an idiot would not see that this resolution was naked electioneering, by a white candidate facing a strong African-American opponent.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:24 PM
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17. You forgot trying to vote while black.
And the possibility that this is naked electioneering by the Democrats trying to pick up votes in the South -- if black people could actually get their votes counted.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:57 PM
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28. Don't forget Driving While Black
I think among many law enforcement types, they still have the assumption that a young black male driving a nice vehicle must somehow be involved in the drug trade.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:50 AM
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30. One of my buddies at work almost lost her job multiple times
because she got stopped on the way in and we had to clock it 15 minutes before our shift started. Bastards.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:29 PM
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12. I have the only example you need: George W. Bush.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:16 PM
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22. purging surging
I note the Palast article about voter purges in Florida and Ohio. Palast is now covering a similar tactic in the current swing state of Colorado.
http://www.gregpalast.com/obama-doesn%E2%80%99t-sweat-he-should/
It's the one thing you can count on with conservatives if it worked in the past they'll keep doing it until they get busted for it.
Unfortunately it's a complex issue and too esoteric for the average voter especially those not directly affected.I'm hoping the Democratic party will call the Colorado SOS on this given that their national convention is to be in the capitol city of that state, or that the Obama campaign should make an issue of it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:37 PM
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23. It's easy to explain to voters. They go to places with a lot of black voters
and they try to get them kicked off of the rolls so they can't vote.

They do the same to students and soldiers.

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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:07 PM
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7. About freaking time.
Actions speak a whole hell of a lot louder than words, fellas. We shall see...
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:18 PM
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9. apologize to all peoples
that have suffered the atrocities of the white man in America. Not until proper restitution has been paid will any recovery have a possibility to begin.

:kick:

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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 02:19 PM
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10. What was the vote count?
Rarely is anything completely unanimous so I am curious who the dissenters were.

Rp
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twiceshy Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:31 PM
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13. Don't bother to apologize for me........
My Irish and French Canadian ancesters were treated like shit when they came to the good 'ol USA in the late 1880's and certainly did not benifit from slavery.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:58 PM
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14. My family was mostly Italian
And when they immigrated in the early 1900s they never owned slaves either. Nevertheless we should still be apologizing on the whole as a nation for the laws that were not changed and when they were not enforced in the name of racism.

Rp
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:18 PM
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15. benefitting
re: "came to the good 'ol USA in the late 1880's and certainly did not benifit from slavery."

There has been so much immigration since the Civil War that probably most people would say that their familes/ancestors did not benefit from slavery... but slavery (or, if you will, the fruits of free labor) is arguably part of what built this country into a place that your ancestors wanted to come to, even though slavery was over by then, so in a way, everyone here has benefitted, in a sense, from the efforts of slaves.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:59 PM
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29. Exactly!
That's what makes this whole "I didn't benefit from slaves" argument pure BULLSHIT. If you're living in this country today, then you benefited from the slave labor of the 1800s.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:26 PM
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20. Slavery was the economic engine of this country.
Unless your ancestors remained totally off the grid, they did benefit from slavery.

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Kweli4Real Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:28 PM
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24. Not trying to pick a fight or anything ...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:48 PM
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25. I remember being shocked to learn that our Capitol building
was built by slave labor. Wtf, who did I think built it?

Let's air it out and get straight with it. That's what you have to do with rottenness.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:14 PM
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27. the count was by voice .
no paper trail
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:22 PM
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16. money
re: "the government were concerned that to admit their wrongs would mean black families who sue for reparations would have a stronger case"

Of course it comes down to money. But how ridiculous it is to say that the reparations advocates would have a stronger case if the U.S. admitted there had been slavery and that it had been wrong. Like anyone needs to build a case for that? It's not quite like the doctor who won't apologize for a mistake because he may want to try to deny the mistake if there's a financial penalty. (A whole other topic.) Nobody is going to deny that slavery happened, or try to defend it.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:25 PM
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19. Saaay, THAT'S might white of 'em!
Now, about this woman's suffrage thang... :headbang:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:10 PM
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26. Even though it's late and other apologies are owed to various peoples,
I believe it's a good thing to do.

I believe the only way you can rid your self of subconscious guilt which only feeds resentment and goes on to magnify hatred is to apologize for whatever the transgression is or was.

Furthermore the transgression doesn't need to be committed by you in order for you to feel some form of guilt, as it's buried in your subconscious non-rational thinking mind, that part of your mind's ruler is emotion as opposed to logic.

Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, flashl.

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