German Nazi Camp Raided

[Doctor Cynic]

Source: BBC

A youth camp run by a neo-Nazi group has been broken up by police near Rostock in northern Germany.

Thirty-nine teenagers and children who were attending the camp have been returned to their homes, police said.

The neo-Nazi group that ran the camp had described it as a youth adventure holiday. The police raid uncovered racist propaganda and Nazi material.

The head of Germany's equivalent of the FBI told a newspaper neo-Nazis were adopting increasingly violent tactics.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7553978.stm

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[TechBear_Seattle]

1. Meanwhile, back in the States

US Nazi camps are allowed to go on unchallenged, as they have the decency to wrap their naked hatreds up in the holy clothing of religion.

[pegleg]

3. And Godwin pops up again.

[TechBear_Seattle]

5. Given that the OP was about Nazis, don't you think it was inevitable? n/t

[Occulus]

7. Godwin can go straight to hell

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we must at least seriously consider that we have on our hands a member of the Anatinae subfamily.

[WriteDown]

4. Comparing it to this...

just lessons the meaning of the word nazi.

[Occulus]

8. Yes, it does.

It schools it in how to revive that particular ideology.

"Lessons"? Come on. Write it down- you meant "lessens".

Which it doesn't.

[WriteDown]

13. Huh?

Agree on my poor spelling (typing fast and not thinking), but religion had zero to do with the formation or Nazism. In fact, they shunned it. Read your history.

[pegleg]

15. Actually religion had a lot to do with it. Hitler harkened back to the days when

the German emperor and the Holy Roman Empire controlled catholicism and chose the popes.

[WriteDown]

16. Harkened?

In what way? Didn't know Hitler was alive in the early 1800's. Actually Hitler was a huge critic of Catholicism.

[pegleg]

17. Actually his knowledge and dreams of a germanic empire go back to the days

when Charlemagne dictated the direction of the Catholic church , circa 8th and 9th centuries.

[boppers]

18. Some quotes.

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.”

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago — a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.

“Then indeed when Rome collapsed there were endless streams of new German bands flowing into the Empire from the North; but, if Germany collapses today, who is there to come after us? German blood upon this earth is on the way to gradual exhaustion unless we pull ourselves together and make ourselves free!

“And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited.”


“And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.”

Guess who said that (and much more), pointing out how the goals of NSDAP and Christianity were the same.... Go ahead, guess.

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html

Pretending the Hitler wasn't hand-in-hand with the brutal side of christianity is nothing other than revisionism.

[AlphaCentauri]

19. Catholics are just a minority in the US, evangelicals are the motor behind the RW machine

[WriteDown]

20. I can play this game too.

"through the peasantry ... we shall really be able to destroy Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and blood."
- Adolf Hitler

Nazism was Hitler's #1 religion. Also as a side note, pagan ceremonies were common among SS troops. Also you seem to have failed to put any dates or context to your quotes. Its important to note that Hitler seemed to share Catholic values before he assumed dictatorial powers. After that, his policies and attitudes changed.

*edited to add small thought.

[Hugabear]

11. Oh really?

Considering that many of these extremist fundies would love to round up or execute people simply for being homosexual, that many of these fundies frown upon interracial relationships, want to impose their particular morality upon the rest of the world, and think that they alone have all the answers, that only they will go to Heaven, you don't think that there might be some apt comparisons?

[WriteDown]

14. Care to prove that...

with examples? I've lived down in the deep south with southern baptists and you may have heard a few nuts talking like this, but they were far and few in between. When those Christian concentration camps pop up, you let me know.

[HillbillyBob]

12. Amen and Hallelujah

I was fed way to much jezuz. ( southern Baptist).
Faith is your own, religion is to control the sheeples.
Shaman , nice work, not hard or dirty, decent pay if you can stomach it to paraphrase Lazarus Long.

[alfredo]

2. My first thought was the raid was on one of bush's black sites.

[crim son]

6. There are a lot more than thirty-nine kids in that pic.

Why use it?

[JVS]

9. Here are 39 kids. But I think the OP chose the image because of the ideology.

somwhow this googled pic doesn't seem so relevant to the story despite being 39 kids :-)

[crim son]

10. Thirty nine kids does not the Third Reich make.

The picture bothers me.

[BreweryYardRat]

21. Good for the German goverment!

Shame they weren't willing to snuff the adults in charge of this place, but I can understand their fears of becoming the enemy.