Palin criticized for mocking community organizing

[sabra]

Source: National Catholic Online

The group Catholic Democrats today issued a strong rebuke of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s sarcastic mocking of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s work as a community organizer during the 1980s.

“I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities,” Palin, former mayor of a small town in Alaska, said during her speech to the Republican National Convention Sept. 3 in St. Paul, Minn.

The speech by Palin, currently governor of Alaska, followed one by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also belittled Obama’s work as a community organizer, drawing laughs from the assembled Republicans.

“It is shocking that a vice presidential candidate would disparage an essential component of the Catholic social tradition with her condescending attack on urban community organizing,” said Dr. Patrick Whelan, president of Catholic Democrats, an association of state-based groups advancing understanding of Catholic social teaching.

The group criticized Palin for mocking Obama’s work “in the 1980s for the Catholic Campaign for Human Development.” The Catholic Campaign for Human Development is an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and it partially funded Obama’s activities in Catholic parishes on the South Side of Chicago. At the time it was known simply as the Campaign for Human Development.

Community organizing was work Obama undertook “instead of pursuing a lucrative career on Wall Street,” according to a statement from Catholic Democrats.

Read more: http://ncronline3.org/drupal/?q=node/1766

[pfitz59]

1. kick

community organizing trumps community polarizing!

[Pete2069]

56. Where were these democrats

When Chelsea Clinton was the age of "" 12 &
13"" she was called names by McCain , Rush and other
republicans???

How old is Sara Palin's Daughter anyway 17 going on 18 years
of age and the only statements made have been true statements.

Why are the democrats so much like a jellyfish ,,  when it
comes to defending themselves against the republicans with the
""truth"" , while republicans are throwing
any lie , misquoted statements , BS and propaganda at all
democrats.


McCain say;

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet
Reno." 
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/02/19/mccain-why-is-chelsea-clinton-so-ugly/

*********
Here is what Rush did 

It was on his short-lived TV show.

He said, lets see the "White House Cat" and they put
a picture of Socks the cat up on the screen (up in the corner,
like on the evening news w/ Rush being in the
"anchorman" spot)

Then he said, "OK, lets see the White House dog" and
they put a picture of Chelsea up (who was about 12 at the
time).

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/182817-rush-limbaugh-hates-children-re-chelsea.html

********************

According to political insiders, a negative ad targeting a
rival's offspring is highly unorthodox, especially when the
children in question are under the age of ten.

But after the two Obama kids scored in their performance on
national television last night at the Democratic convention,
"we had to do something to give the American people some
straight talk on those two brats," Sen. McCain said
today.

In the ad, which is being broadcast in key swing states, an
announcer intones, "They're the cutest children in the
world - but are they ready to lead?"

The spot uses visuals to link the two Obama kids to other
famously cute kids, such as the young Drew Barrymore and the
Cabbage Patch dolls.

The commercial goes on to blast the Obama children for
"smiling and giggling but refusing to state their
position on offshore oil drilling."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/new-mccain-ad-attacks-oba_b_121403.html

[rosesaylavee]

60. You are so completely right on! Could you make this a post by itself?

I think everyone needs to review this.

And welcome to DU!

[NI4NI]

67. Well done, Pete! Welcome to DU. eom

[GreenEyedLefty]

80. Satire alert!

:)

Re: last paragraph of Pete's post...

[barbtries]

96. so it's not true....?

goddam, i tell you, i almost wouldn't put it past them. actually i didn't put it past them. but it did get the dropped jaw reaction, which is very rare these days.

[nickgutierrez]

109. The name, "Andy Borowitz" is the tip-off.

The Borowitz Report is a reasonably well-known satire outlet. Also, the last paragraph of that article kinda gives it away - even McSame isn't stupid enough to comment on how the ad played in "all of my living rooms". :)

[PatrynXX]

137. :P

Kinda figured that out. I didn't know who he was, just saw comedian and though. wait a minute. o_O

could be played quite well for April Fools. Do'h

[barbtries]

95. they're putting this on television?

those FUCKS.

[DUlover2909]

163. good post, friend.

[roody]

161. It trumps puppy-killing too, wolf puppies that is.

[Bob Dobbs]

2. The gloves are off now against these republic elitist thugs

no matter the gender.

The republic party needs to be destroyed with extreme prejudice and their radical right wing supporters need to be marginalized in society as they so richly deserve.

[Parche]

3. Exact;ly

Like Admiral Halsey said in 1942......."ATTACK, REPEAT, ATTACK"

The gloves are off, the fighting begins, I dont want to go down to their level, but we
need to defend ourselves.

:hi:

[Liberalatus]

78. /agree

We can strike hard, fast, and brutally. Just need to keep it truthful. And somewhat relevant.

[lookbothways]

92. republic party needs to be destroyed ...need to be marginalized

What? That’s too much hate, for everyone who is right someone is wrong. Look we are about tolerance as much as anything. If our ideas are right, then we can persuade most, if not we can’t. .

[lookbothways]

107. nonsense

Hate filled nonsense. The point is balance, not imbalance. We need those people, to balance out hate filled opinions on our side. And we need stubborn dems to bal. out stubborn Reps. Why, because people won’t be decent and disagree with dignity.

[jhrobbins]

108. Yes, Yes, Yes - except we are already hearing that those things

ie, families are off limits and we would be heinous to bring it up. Where was this sentioment when Chelsea was savaged, when John Kerry's military recoed was ridiculed and blasphemed, etc, etc, etc. I am so tired of us being so afraid to take the gloves off and play in the same ring the Republicans have been in for years.

[lookbothways]

113. We don't use gloves

Since when was having class= being afraid. And we have always had people all over the media dogging the republicans for what they do (money scandals, sex scandals, inappropriate behavior- voluntary or otherwise) We dog Bush all the time (and why not?), who wares gloves? Sometimes people do it without any class at all (i.e. talk show host) I don’t like it but dems do it just as much as reps do it. Somebody has got to tell the whole truth and not just one side.

[jhrobbins]

114. There is NO WAY we play the same game the Republicans have

done for years. We may be starting to push back, but it is a recent thing. Ask John Kerry about his military record being 'swiftboated' and we did nothing. Ask Dan Rather who broke the Bush military record issue and then was fired for lack of evidence (people were afraid to come forward).

[lookbothways]

118. No sir

We have allowed the republicans to screw themselves ever since FDR let the banks crumble before he took presidency, when he could have made a statement of his planned policies to mitigate Hoover’s damages (and why?). Both Jimmy Carter and Kennedy led mudslinging campaigns to and equal degree. Clinton attacked BushI on both the poor and the minority fronts by saying his policies where going to hurt them, Reagan got the same treatment, but it was obviously untrue because the standard of living rose just as it did with Clinton.
These are just political squabbles necessary in politics. But, virtually every talk show host is on our side; minus Rush, Hannity and O'Riely + army (we came up with that BTW). And we started the military squabble with last time by bringing out Bush’s nearly draft dogging.
As For recently, I was overseas till Clinton's second term and the international news NEVER said anything good about the republicans (not that there is much) simply because 3/4 of Europe is progressive. The thing, is that the news station of choice where ABC international, NBC, and NPR
There is nothing recent about politics. Not since Rome, scratch that Greece.
Being progressive give us a responsibility to see everything, not just recent occurrences or history will repeat.

[kmdemqueen]

164. No sir

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/the_death_of_a.html

I read this morning about them putting footage of sept 11th. I mean here we go again the same Bush tactic. Scare us. Well it is not going to work this time. That was awful. And if i was a victim or family of victim of 9/11 I would be so very insulted and offended. I still am.

This one seems worse then Bush. I don't know how anybody could be. This so appalling i want puke.

[lookbothways]

169. violence and intimidation will never work

Guess what, True open mindedness works to win people over, violence and intimidation never will. This is why the video will only serve to rally themselves up. Don't bother getting sick about it.

Smart people will listen an consider ALL cases before forming an opinion. Stupid people just close their minds and babble something like “no, no… that’s not true… the world is against me!” .

I know that Americas safety is near and dear to these people. That is why they are by and large so gung-ho about 9/11. They are not trying to scare us as much as they are justifying themselves. We would also be on the defensive if there where riots at our convention (BTW, I disapprove of that on the same moral grounds as Ghandi and MLK jr) They are merely responding to equally (or more) crazy people who believe opposite from them (and yes there are crazy dems unfortunately).

[TheFarseer]

130. if we get in teh gutter with the repubs

we'll just look ridiculous and sad, as you suggest. I'd like to know why no one has attacked McCain's plan to tax employer provided health benefits. Would ANYONE not self-employed vote for him if this was widely known? This is the kind of attack I'd like to see.

[lookbothways]

136. yes

[McSame08]

153. second.

[Lugnut]

4. K&R n/t

[Bob Dobbs]

5. dupe

delete

[stillcool]

6. Say it Loud, Say it Clear..

McCain/Palin might just be the "Unity" ticket.

[Cant trust em]

7. This is the one that drives me crazy.

Why is it that everything that I care about is a source of mockery to them?

[Willo]

104. Post Rec!

The entire convention was like a bad "B" movie where a thugs would deceive and take advantage of the innocent person(s) minding their own business. Then proceed to harass and abuse them, laughing and mocking through it all.

That is the way I felt about their convention and the gleeful celebratory reactions of their supports thereafter.
It's one thing to disagree on issues, but now I think that what we've been fighting for all along is simple decency.

I honestly feel that many republicans are privately ashamed and embarrassed by that display.

[tandot]

8. No - a community organizer is actually doing work - she hired a city manager to do her work

She was too stupid or too lazy to do the work other mayors have done without a city manager before her.

edit to add link:

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-eleven-sarah.html

"Judy reminded me, as we walked around the outskirts of Wasilla today, canvassing for Obama, that when Palin was first elected mayor there in 1996, she had to hire a city manager. When her predecessors had occupied the office, they did that job themselves. There went $60,000 per year. And so it has continued to go for her."

[barbtries]

14. from what i understand

she was forced to hire the city manager or be recalled.

[progressivebydesign]

16. Palin earned 68-75k as mayor of a town of 6,000, relegated her duties to someone else.

I pulled up the duties of the Mayor of Wasilla, ( www.cityofwasilla.com/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=485 ) sorry it shows up only as a pdf, does not appear as an html.

And her duties there are laid out, and they mention that unless there is a city manager, the mayor is responsible for those managerial things. Of course, she hired a manager -- AND she earned 68k to 75k for the job as mayor of a tiny town.

To keep that in perspective, the Mayor of Pismo Beach, Grover Beach, or Arroyo Grande, CA (which all have higher populations, have mayor salaries around $400.00 a month. Yes.. around 5k a year. Even San Luis Obispo, CA, with a major university, and a population over 100k only pays the mayor around 12,000 per year. Really.

Sounds to me as thought Palin enjoys living off the taxpayers and being paid more than ten times what her counterparts made in similar (actually more challenging) positions.

[ramapo]

57. You are kidding....right?

Here in North Jersey, mayors serve for a fraction of Palin's salary as mayor. Oh yes, these are in towns with much higher populations, where mayors have "real" responsibilities.

[ladywnch]

90. Exactly!!!! this is one we really have to pound home.....make an ad about it

she was collecting 68K to do a job and was so bad at it that she was facing a recall vote and was forced by the city council to hire a city administrator so teh city of Wasilla had to pay TWO SALARIES. We can't go hire someone else to do the VP job after she's elected.

What do we have to do to get this out in the MSM?!!!

[nickgutierrez]

112. Not to mention the $21 million debt she left the town in.

How are we supposed to believe she can manage a federal budget, if she couldn't even handle Wasilla's budget?

[roody]

162. My mayor works for free!

[Kber]

122. Actually, at the age Barack was community organizing

she was sports casting.

When she was Mayor with approx 6,000 constituents, he was a state senator with about 200,000 people in his district.

[krkaufman]

124. HOW THE F**K has this "city manager" info NOT made it to the news, yet.

This one fact will DESTROY Palin... especially after her "as a Mayor" vs "community org" blather.

[offog]

135. Damn good point.

"No - a community organizer is actually doing work - she hired a city manager to do her work."
I was also offended by Palin's assumption that community organizers don't have "actual responsibilities". Helping people who have real problems, such as trying not to end up homeless, involves more serious responsibilities than, say, trying to get library books banned.

[McSame08]

154. agree.

[McSame08]

155. dupe.

[mwb970]

9. The sarcasm and mocking were out of place.

For America, I mean. For Republicans, who simply can't "do" humor, sarcasm and mocking of worthy activities is as close as they can come to wit. They're pathetic.

[SOS]

128. Agree

The wingnutz in the audience liked her, but a sarcastic, condescending hockey mom isn't going to pull much from the middle.

[olddad56]

10. this vile woman has the mentality of George Bush

maybe it is orchestrated by Karl Rove, but it was the same sarcastic attack on Obama that Bush used against Gore in 2000. Lumping him into this general category of Washington insiders and then attacking the him as if he was responsible for everything that has gone wrong in the past 8 years. All while she hides behind the luxury of having no real record at the national level that can she can be held accountable for. Cheap Republican trick. Her only strength is that she has real experience.

[olddad56]

20. oops, last word in text was meant to be 'inexperience'.

[barbtries]

97. i noticed that earlier

and wondered...lol

[Ian David]

11. Jesus was a Community Organizer. Why does The Republiklan Party hate Jesus? n/t

[feddup]

12. "Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor"

Read that on another blog and think it's very apt...

[karynnj]

25. I love it!

[kestrel91316]

34. Zzzzzing!!!! Wish I could K&R THAT!!

[ellie]

36. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[meow2u3]

81. And remember what Pontius Pilate did to Jesus

This was the text of the comment I submitted:

I read a comment mentioning that Jesus was a community organizer, Herod was a governor, and Pontius Pilate was a prosecutor. Remember what Herod did to Jesus? He looked to kill him and instead ordered all little boys under 2 murdered. Pilate handed Jesus over to the big shots in Jerusalem to be crucified even though he found Jesus not guilty.

I see a lot of Herod and Pilate in Gov. Palin and former mayor and prosecutor Rudy Giuliani, trying to murder Barack Obama politically because he was a community organizer instead of a Wall Street tycoon.

[lookbothways]

93. Religion flat does not belong in these politics

Jesus had no care for the body politic of the time, nor did any religious figure that immediately comes to mind. I do not think I would like to compare Obama to someone who was not concerned for the state of the current government especially a religious one. It’s…unsettling

[meow2u3]

116. The OP comes from a religious web site

My post was a jab at the Religious Right, who politicizes Christianity now the same way the Pharisees politicized Judaism 2000 years ago.

I posted this comment on a Catholic news site.

[lookbothways]

121. We politicize religion!

Why do you think Obama went to the Wailing Wall, past Mecca, visited a synagogue, visited those many church functions and spoke of his pastor as a mentor in his book, before his bid for presidency. Is he therefore Muslim, or Jewish, or super religious NO! He is being a politician. People care about their religions. Or lack of religion as the case may be. Bill Clinton was a Baptist, Southern Baptist, in fact. We know this because he told us in a speech where he was “politicizing Christianity”. If the reps can’t do it then we would be hypocrites to do it and I am not hypocrite. Everyone deserves the right to have religion; we call it freedom of the choice thereof. If you want to base you vote on this, that’s your choice. I won’t, but that does not give me a right to berate anyone for it. Ever, nor in any way.

[Erin Elizabeth]

146. Are you sure you're on the right website?

[lookbothways]

166. Yea, unless we are supposed to be as closed minded and intolerant as any right winger ever dared be

[nam78_two]

26. Recd.nt

[krkaufman]

125. suh-nap!!!! best.soundbite.ever. n/t

[FloridaJudy]

143. Nah. The Pubs would never pick Jesus

A bearded radical from the Middle East who defied the authorities, associated with criminals and other "undesirables", and criticized the rich?

They'd probably put Him on the "no-fly" list.

[McSame08]

156. good talking point.

would jesus bomb iran?

[ColonelTom]

13. We should thank Palin for this gift.

It'll make a nice counter to all the "Obama is elitist" smears.

[Mad_Dem_X]

15. Rethugs have no respect for those that help people

or for the people that need help. And they have the nerve to call our guys "elitist"!

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[sabra]

19. "This broad is no push over."

huh?

[SissyBoy]

23. Did You Not Watch The Speech?

You have to be honest with your oppoent and understand them. Yeah we could say she is a nothing and nobody and ignore the fact that she did well. Even our buddy KO saw this.

Frankly, I think the media is doing Obama a disservice with all of these stories about her and her family. Obama and Biden can deal with her themselves. That will work better with independent and undecideds. Thse stories work to make her look like a victim.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Independent voters can not stand Palin

Sorry to disappoint you, but the only folks who like her are the Fundy base. She sucked. She came off as petty, self centered, and mean. Mean does not play in Peoria.
Thanks for playing.

[Mike Daniels]

73. I'm an independent who has voted for Republican and Democratic candidates

I can tell you right now that I was paying Palin's speech only about 1/2 of my attention and yet I caught every nasty, spiteful comment she made.

I may have voted for McCain of 2000 back then if he had been the Republican candidate. But even if the McCain of 2000 was still with us in 2008 I wouldn't vote for him this year because of Palin's speech.

One basic problem with Palin (outside of her beliefs) is her form of politics is the "politics as usual" that the independent voters are tired of. I'm expecting that even if McCain does get a bump this week that it will drop off pretty quick the more Palin takes her shtick on the road.

[Number23]

141. That's a great (and brave!!) point

I may have voted for McCain of 2000 back then if he had been the Republican candidate.

I have often felt the same way. I too, am an independent, even though it may not look that way since I've voted Democratic so many times. :)

I felt the same way in 2000 - that if it had been McCain vs. Gore the way that it SHOULD have been, and not Bush vs. Gore, the choice would actually have been alot more difficult. Alot of folks on both side of the political spectrum had a ton of respect for McCain and there is no question he was the better Republican choice.

As it turned out, the Repubs anointed Bush the Fairest of them All that year which allowed me and countless others the opportunity to brush off any ambivalence and RUN to the polls to vote for Gore. And sadly, McCain has made his bed with the same @ssholes who coated him in mud in 2000, helping to make this election a no-brainer as well. And Palin is just the greasy cherry on the burned, crap-coated Republican cake.

[yardwork]

35. Fail.

[progressivebydesign]

40. "sissyboy" for a screen name? Doesn't DU have standards for that?n/t

[Citizen_Penn]

42. First, you must learn to spell.

Then, you can teach others.

First things first, please.

[Citizen_Penn]

45. My 80 year old mother, who voted for both Bushes.

was livid,

She called her arrogant, rude, and vapid.

And those are the nice things she had to say about her.

Nice try, no sale.

She's toast - and so is your party.

[Hansel]

49. I saw her speech. I thought it was mediocre and sophomoric.

It should have her time to introduced her qualifications to be VP and sell herself to who should have been her audience--swing voters. Now she will be defined by the media she attacked and the Obama supporters she mocked.

She has no standing as an unknown commodity to criticize a leading presidential candidate in the arrogant and juvenile way in which she did. I give her about as much relevance in her characterization of Obama as some blowhard in a bar since she didn't do us the courtesy of telling us who she is. I don't give one iota about who her family is in terms of how she will run the country. I want to know what she will do for my family and friends and neighbors. Period.

She sounded ignorance, divisive and classless and either purposefully deceitful or misinformed on every talking point that she espoused. If she really cares about America, she needs to realize it is time to heal and for our candidates to really talk about the issues. American's are begging for it.

Her defensiveness about small town people was undermined by her mocking of community organizers. In her zealousness to make Obama look like he was out of touch, she betrayed just how out of touch she is and how ignorant she is about anything outside of small town America. Small town people are not the only people who have pride. Obama misspoke with his "bitterness" remark but she purposefully insulted and mocked 10 of millions of Americans on a national stage and is too out of touch to even know it.

[Duke Newcombe]

54. She's tough, like all very loud bullies are "tough".

She has the tough reputation, because (a) she has a "posse" (conservative cult of personality) that backs her up, and (b) loud, aggressive people aren't challenged enough in our society, so they wind up successfully obtaining what they want to achieve, which feeds into the meme that their brand of "tough" works.

But, like all bullies, when someone who is IN FACT a badass confronts them, they dissolve like toilet paper in the rain. Watch it happen.

Duke

[progressivebydesign]

77. I think we mean her speechwriter is tough. She was merely ready a script. n/t

[PA Democrat]

101. I saw her speech as her "Bring it on" moment.

So she has basically royally angered Obama supporters and also given them license to attack back. At the same time McCain has declared war on and is throwing grenades at the press.

They really are the WAR candidates.

[SOS]

129. She really did rally the base...

OUR base!

[Roy]

61. You missed the ? mark n/t

[Curtland1015]

22. Broad? what decade did you get trapped in?

Why not just call her a dame? :D

[bitchkitty]

64. Or a tomato! :) n/t

[badgerpup]

66. Well..."Dame" has some positive connotations...

It's the feminine equivalent to "Sir" (or being knighted) in Britain...
and (to me, at least) the term dame has a bit of gravitas- with an admittedly odd mixture of toughness and romance (since I always 'hear' it spoken in Humphrey Bogart's voice). :crazy:

"Broad" is just a term applied to women for whom the speaker hasn't much respect.

I have a feeling that John McCain (and this is completely MHO- don't know for certain, and frankly don't give a flying BFD) refers to most women not in his 'inner circle' as broads.

He has...er...other terms for the ones closest to him (e.g., trollop, c*nt, bitch).

[awoke_in_2003]

100. "Why not just call her a dame"

I prefer "bird" :)

[Bob Dobbs]

29. Transparent agenda.

Epic disruption fail.

[Magleetis]

31. Untruthful and unfair stories?

You must not be reading the same stories as the rest of us. Stick around we will straighten you out.

[yardwork]

33. Whatsamatter, "SissyBoy?" Got your knickers in a twist this morning?

I hope you're getting paid by the minute.

[Stand and Fight]

37. Your comments and tone are pathetic and transparent. n/t

[kestrel91316]

39. "Broad" won't earn you any friends around here.

WE are the Dem pitbulls, BTW, and there's a whole pack of us.

Serena Joy has no idea she's headed for the Bass-O-Matic.

[Name removed]

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[jhill3rd]

51. Awww. Isn't this cute :)

The ol' Democrat/Nazi comparison. Haven't seen this is ions. Yawn.

[jhill3rd]

59. oops!!

Haven't seen this IN ions. sorry...

Palin showed her true colors yesterday. It's only one color actually: DEEP RED. Maroon in fact!! She is now the poster child of everything Americans loath about the Bush Administration and more so neo-conservatism. McCain just barely did that. With her screed yesterday, she reminded all of us why we need a change. Democrats and Obama supporters are fired up more than ever. All I can really say is thanks Sarah :)

[orleans]

52. bye bye jerk face!

sissyboy: all gone!

[The_Counsel]

74. ,,,And Exactly WHO'S "Truth" Is This? 'Cause It Sure Ain't THE Truth.

"Democrats and Nazis hate the 1st Amendment - Fairness doctine, hatre speech codes, campaign censorship, and the Joseph Geobels media types like Keith Olbermann."

If the Fairness Doctrine were still in place, Keith Olbermann couldn't function in the same way he does currently. Your first argument fails.


"Democrats and Nazis hate the 2nd Amendment - Obvious."

Your second argument fails due to lack of substance. Let me TRY to help, though:

Republicans generally believe in our constitutional right to bear arms.

Democrats generally believe in our constitutional right to bear arms, but think we should do so responsibly. Most Dems are also aware that the actual text, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed," speaks more to protecting the individual from a tyrannical federal government imposing martial law to keep the common folk in line than to allowing some yahoo to shoot someone in the face with an AK-47 just because they disagreed with him.


"Democrats and Nazis hate the free market."

...which is why so many Democrats own businesses of their own, right? Fail #3.

No, Dems hate Big Business, which makes big profit at the expense of the common good.


"Democrats and Nazis want a government monopoly in education."

Dems want a GOOD education for ALL Americans, not just the rich and/or well-connected.

#4.


"Democrats and Nazis want a government monopoly in healthcare."

See my last point and replace "education" with "health care."

What's that six or seven?

My bad, it's just #5.


"Democrats and Nazis want a government takeover in retirement funding."

Really? Which Democrats actually said that?

Six.


"Democrats and Nazis hate smokers."

No, people who want to stay alive hate smokers. And even THAT'S not true. We just hate that smoking can kill you.

Nice over-generalization, though.

Seven.


"Democrats and Nazis will destroy anything and anybody that gets in their way of power."

Last I checked, Dick Cheney is not a Democrat. :evilgrin:


"I am a libertarian who became a Republican last night. I am not alone. I will work for the Republican party and contribute heavily."

You are a Republican who is only admitting as much today. The fact you aren't alone is the only truthful thing you said in that entire post. That's cool, though...


"Go back to living your pathetic lives and want for politicians to help you."

Nice to see you don't expect Senator McCain to "help" you. :eyes:

No, folks like us want our politicians to REPRESENT us for a change. You know ... like the Constitution SAYS they should...

[Sherman A1]

18. Ticking off the Catholic Church is

probably not the brightest thing to do and me thinks that the young lady is about to learn that lesson.

[druidqueen]

48. Proud of my Catholic siblings

Amen.....I am so glad that the Catholic Dems called her out on
this.  One of the basic ideals of the Catholic church is a
preferential option for the poor and oppressed (hmmm....sounds
just like Jesus to me).  I only hope that my fellow Catholics
who voted for Bush will come back to the Democratic fold.  It
used to burn me up when they would tell me that Bush is
"pro-life"  - my response was that war is NOT
pro-life, the death penalty is NOT pro-life, nor is cutting
funds for healthcare, education, the elderly!!!

[Sherman A1]

88. Precisely

I remember when the Pope visited St. Louis a few years ago. He stated flat out that a civilized society has the means to incarcerate those that need to be. Being pro-life also means being against the death penalty, but try to convince them of that.

[JerseygirlCT]

21. Good for them!

And exactly right.

Since when is giving up money and position to roll up your sleeves and help other people a bad thing?

Oh, in the GOP it is... I forgot.

[Kind of Blue]

24. It's so sad that she doesn't

recognize it's the very organizing in communities that got Obama where he is today. Biden is well loved in Delaware because he keeps himself accessible to his community. I remember while living in a Democratic state, one republican congresswoman stayed in office for years and years because she and her staff were well known for jumping in quickly and helping when a citizen had any problem with local government. It's hard to believe that, as a mayor of a small town and a governor of a small populace, Palin can mock the power of a community around a politician. To mock that is truly not knowing who she is fighting or the diversity in this country. I guess it's easy for her to laugh when she couldn't really speak about issues at all, not even a hint of what Republicans will do besides keep taxes down. For whom? Let her keep talking her trash because there's a lot of it she'll have to swallow in the coming weeks.

[Princess Turandot]

27. Oops...

I guess they figured that they couldn't bash him on his Columbia-Harvard education or working in the state senate or the US Senate. So they went for the sound-byte without fact checking and ran smack into the Roman Catholic Church. If they were going to trash something, that's a good choice! (For us, I mean.)It's an especially nice touch, coming from Giuliani, as well.

[Christa]

28. K & R

[pnwmom]

30. Great link, thanks. I know lots of Catholics to send this to. n/t

[yardwork]

38. Republicans claim that government services aren't needed;

then they mock the people doing the volunteer work.

Sarah Palin cut state services to special needs children by more than 60%, and cut out services to unwed teenage moms, yet she has the nerve to make fun of people volunteering in their communities.

[tblue37]

53. Excellent point! Repeat it on other threads until the

meme gets widely disseminated: "Republicans claim that government services aren't needed;then they mock the people doing the volunteer work."

[offog]

139. Nobody should diss volunteers!

Volunteers are especially precious these days with so many working and middle-class people struggling to balance work and family responsibilities. They need all the love and appreciation they can get.
And those government services ARE needed. I love the volunteers in charitable and community organizations, but struggling people shouldn't have to depend on them. It's weird that so many people are happy to donate to charities but howl about spending tax money on increased benefits, healthcare and public housing for marginalized people. I know from experience that going to the local food bank is humiliating.

[frylock]

41. catholics are on par with the wiccan or satan worshipers as far as the fundies are concerned..

i'm sure she couldn't give two shites what the Catholics think.

[DFLforever]

69. But McCain needs their votes

More Catholics than Fundies in the country.

I don't think they realized Obama the Community Organizer was employed by a Catholic organization.

[Ikonoklast]

106. Good. Eighty Million U.S. Catholics to piss off.

And not many of them give a care about the fundie nut-jobs telling Catholics they're all going to hell.

Most Catholics I know think fundies are all snake-handling babblers in tongues roll on the floor idiots.

[oviedodem]

43. This women actually found a way to piss of the religious; EPIC FAIL.

[torbird]

44. It can't fail!

I mean, has anything bad ever happened to someone who mocked the Catholic church? I can't think of anything.

[kayell]

47. "Actual responsibilities?" What, like harrassing and firing

city employees? Asking the librarian if she's willing to censor books as a bizarre loyalty test? Canning the police chief because he wants to close the bars at 2am instead of 5am? Those actual responsibilities?

Or maybe the ones that led her to take a small town $20 million into debt?

[shaniqua6392]

50. It is wonderful to hear voices of reason!!

With all the Pro-Palin media today, I was losing hope that anyone noticed the vitriol in her speech.

[AngryOldDem]

55. I am getting so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.

What, exactly, does PRO-LIFE mean to these people who like to trot out their "I'm-more-religious-than-you" bullshit at every turn?

I have little respect for Catholics or anyone else who can't get beyond their own self-righteousness to see what the Church actually teaches on ALL life issues. I wish to hell they would get a clue that life GOES ON BEYOND THE DELIVERY ROOM.

I really, really hope Biden tears her a new one at their debate -- I have never rooted so hard for public humiliation ever. And whoever said upthread that the gloves are now off, I could not agree more.

And Ms. Palin, please do some research on CCHD. Start here, if you will: http://www.usccb.org/cchd/

You might learn something. But I doubt it.

[lookbothways]

98. What about Catholic Democrats

Look choice is all about CHOICE, they can have their opinions too. I am not sure how your dislike for religious people has anything to do with Biden. I really don’t think he plans to “tear” anyone for having different opinions. I hope (and feel like) he will present his opinion and it will be thought as a BETTER OPPINION. There is so much hate this election it makes me sick.

[happycozy]

58. Let them mock...

Thousands of community organizers mobilizing over the next two months will send the Republicans packing November 4.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

62. Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor. . . . nt

[meow2u3]

87. Correction: Jesus was a community organizer; HEROD was a governor

Pilate was a prosecutor, and a chickenshit one at that.

[MessiahRp]

63. Ghouliani did the same thing. Republicans are shameless slimes.

Rp

[Efilroft Sul]

65. Giuliani, Palin to Mr. Smith: Stay the hell out of Washington.

What bothered me most about Giuliani's and Palin' speeches was how they played up Palin's executive leadership and business background over the Democratic ticket. Of course, the crowd went wild each time the point was made, but perhaps the delegates in St. Paul should step back a moment and assess what is really being said.

According to Giuliani and Palin, the only people qualified to hold political office are the chosen few who have executive experience. In their world view, Mr. Smith isn't allowed to go to Washington. In their world view, Mr. Smith can't bring kitchen table issues to the halls of power. In their world view, Mr. Smith had just better STFU if he knows what's good for him, because those with executive experience will bring the smack down on him if he dares to dissent.

If Mr. Smith's experience organizing and empowering those at the grassroots level is so devalued as a leadership quality, who then are really the elitists, dear Republicans?

[PatrynXX]

68. Wellstone action

They also have a response to this - http://wellstone.org/blog/responsibilities-a-community-organizer

compared to our local Mayor (who is a democrat, but doesn't act like one hmm reminds me of Joe) bringing in two condo's that don't fit and failing to fix the roads.

community organizers have way more to do than Mayors. Mayors tend to be "Guys" and some Gals who get paid to sit on their a**'s all day talking. Not doing much thinking. Thats the council members job.

[DogPoundPup]

70. Obama was helping poor people, republiCONS hate poor people

That's my view and I'm sticking with it.

[lookbothways]

94. So Unfair, My Grandmother was so poor I can't even imagine it

My Grandmother was so poor I can't even imagine it, Republicans do not hate poor people, this is just not true. Republicans expect them to pull themselves up by their own boot straps. yes. And so do some of us (I can think of a few, whom I do not necessarily agree with) but hate… No. Why would poor republicans hate themselves? And calling them stupid (whether or not I agree with them) makes me a hater of the poor. That’s just spew.

[DogPoundPup]

120. My comment is NOT just spew! As for why some of you republicans vote

against your own pocketbooks is a huuuuuuge mystery to me. You'll gladly take a $100 out of your own pocket and give it someone with millions of hundred $ bills in theirs rather than have that millionaire take a hundred $ bill out of his pocket to help pay for the MASSIVE debt brought round to all of us poo' folk by the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT OF NEO-CONS! And McSame wants a 100 yrs. more war, more massive debt? How can anyone pull themselves up by their bootstraps the way the cons have manipulated?

[lookbothways]

126. WHAT!!???

You just said that Rep. HATE poor people. Besides, I haven’t met a rep yet who likes paying taxes at all, most give to charity and avoid taxation. Republican voters are by and large capitalists. The boot strap mentality means they don't care who gets paid, if they aren't paying. And they mostly can't stand asking for help even when they need it. We are talking the blue collar, gun toting, and tobacco chewing, red neck republican base here. All the Democrats I know personally and my self, all make very good wages or have a trust fund of some kind. Some are rich as hell and still take Social security checks and spend it on Golf. Moderates, however, are a different story because they are usually professionals who have worked themselves into middle class. Look at the stats sometimes and see how many millionaires is first generation rich (ie they made the money themselves). We are so busy spewing the rhetoric of our Collage professors we don’t bother to check ourselves. “People who work deserve their money, People who don’t work need help to find some, and it is my social responsibility to help those who can’t work with my taxes and for what doesn’t get there, I will make up the difference with charity.” This was the writer’s view, Kennedy’s view, Carter’s view, Clinton’s view and I believe Obama’s View. Blind votes are just math.

[DogPoundPup]

131. We mostly are in agreement...the boots straps analogy is a farce in this

day and age though after deregulation in the banking industry and the dismantaling of unions, record federal debt, outsourcing, etc. etc. which 'the first generation rich' you are talking about, didn't have those hurdles to jump like it is now.

[lookbothways]

138. recomended reading

What's the point, hurdles or no- first generation rich means they went to work themselves and became millionaires no inheritance. As for your economic history references, well that happens to be my favorite hobby. To help put proper dates and references to the free banking error and what you are probably thinking about concerning “dismantling of unions”. Read Great Myths of the Great Depression by Lawrence Reed also read What Has Government Done To Our Money?
by Murray Rothbard which explain how real record inflation has worked since the Chin dynasty
It is very, very good

[MercutioATC]

148. As the self-appointed "newbie crusader" here, I have a question.

Your views are controversial here, and you have a low post count.

Neither of those things concern me, because that's where I was a looooong time ago and I'm still here.

I notice your profile indicates an interest in economics...and I understand your posts in that context. A question, though...

From an economic standpoint, disregarding the rhetoric and looking at the actual economic plans of the candidates, which plan do you believe allows the greater opportunity for the most people to economically contribute?

Personal responsibility is a big issue for me, so I'm all for "pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps". That said, what are your views on the proposition that for assuming personal responsibility to be effective economically, the playing field should be (and, to achieve the greatest good, must be) conducive to encouraging people to use that responsibility?

[lookbothways]

167. Absolutely!

I agree. As for candidates economic positions. I like Obama’s goals, I think he needs Biden to help him actually get there. I do not like the idea of pulling all tax preparation into the IRS, they can’t handle it. But, this was a short lived idea I think (and thank goodness). As for the other guys, give me a couple of weeks, I was surprised as heck by his VP pick and I have no idea what to think of hear energy plans as I have not ready anything on them..

[lookbothways]

170. To be more thorough

What I mean simply is that only though an unbiased education and some amount of decency can we hope to stimulate an economic system where people want to help themselves by helping others. Idealistic sounding, yes, but I am short on time and my screen is small, so I hope everyone can extrapolate what I mean by the following:
People have been the way they are since written history. The only way to make them give is to show them that the money is doing something. This also goes to contributing by way of tax. This is why pork barrel spending enrages people. It is an expense which is used on unproductive projects. A writer once said that when two people are walking down the wrong pat, the one who turns back first is the correct one. Meaning that if a thing is not working, we should admit to it readily and find something that does.
I am not a fan of compulsory giving, because it encourages people not to work. But taxation is necessary to run the government. It is a fine line. It is my belief that giving out of your own abundance is good, however the only way to get people to contribute and still stimulate an economy is to change their minds and hearts.

[MercutioATC]

171. We agree.

Yes, it's maybe a little unrealistic to expect that kind of universal concern for others in the near future, but it should be the goal. I believe the biggest impediment is the lack of opportunity caused by poor education, unavailable medical care, and a feeling that the deck is stacked to favor the few. These things breed ignorance, fear and hopelessness....which is exactly what we need to eliminate. It's not a handout, it's an investment in people...and that benefits us all.

I don't think that Republicans hate poor people. Many poor people ARE Republicans. The main difference I see between them and us isn't our desire for prosperity, it's their mistaken belief that the few can truly succeed while ignoring the many. That might appear to work in the short term, but it negatively impacts everybody in the long term.

I'm not advocating a guarantee of success, I'm suggesting that we will all fail to prosper if we don't provide a true opportunity for success for everybody.

[offog]

142. I disagree with lookbothways.

"Republicans do not hate poor people, this is just not true." Gee, I guess this explains why Republicans try so hard to keep poor people from voting. (sarcasm)

I like to read conservative viewpoint items in the newspapers up here in Canada, just to see how the other half lives. Canadian conservatives are greatly influenced by the American Republicans, and I figure that the conservative views I see in my newspapers in some way reflect Republican mentality.

Well, I've seen plenty of blatant poor-bashing. (I guess it's because immigrant bashing is very uncool.) All kinds of griping about how those non-taxpaying freeloading low-income losers always vote the wrong way (i.e Liberal or New Democrat); they should stay out of the way and let successful people make the decisions. Every time there's a protest about poverty and/or homelessness, the reaction is "we pay taxes; you don't; go to hell".

I'm supposed to believe that this isn't what conservatives are about? Hey, you treat people like inferior life-forms, the won't vote for you.

[lookbothways]

144. So poor people who vote republican hate themselves, don’t generalize

That’s like saying we hate the military just because we had a technical issue with overseas military votes last go around. You cannot generalize, especially in someone else’s country, I didn’t do it in France, Germany, Switzerland, or England and I would not do it in Canada. Republicans are, I say again, firm capitalists. I speak to the actual organization not to voters. By saying that republicans hate poor people, you marginalize the thousands of poor people who vote republican. As in most of the south (who were democrats until recent history).

[cling2reality]

71. community organizer = faith based intitiative

I am a long time lurker, first time poster so I could not start my own thread but I have to highlight another element of this hypocrisy no one seems to have mentioned (apologize if a repeat).
Doesn't community organizer = bush's faith based initiative?
It was the first executive order he issued and he said it himself in 2001 and I quote

Dateline: 01/30/01
As he promised during the campaign, President Bush launched his "faith-based" initiative on Monday by establishing a White House office to assist and encourage b]faith-based organizations is seeking federal funds to combat problems like drug addiction and homelessness.

In a first executive order, Bush created the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. University of Pennsylvania political science professor John Dilulio was named as the head of the new office.

In a White House announcement, President Bush stated, "It is one of the great goals of my administration to invigorate the spirit of involvement and citizenship. We will encourage faith-based and community programs without changing their mission. We will help all in their work to change hearts while keeping a commitment to pluralism."

[Catherine Vincent]

76. Good catch.

That just goes to show you that they're all about attacks and nothing else.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[heliarc]

89. Obama has said he will continue to support these "faith based

initiatives" too

[dansolo]

115. He isn't the one who was attacking community organisers

Palin, with her "holier than thou" attitude" is very likely a big supporter of Bush's faith based initiatives, and yet, here she is, essentially saying that they don't accomplish anything.

[Dystopian]

72. Keep this on the front page please!

Keep the recommendations & kicks coming!

peace~

[4_Legs_Good]

75. This is a major issue and must be attacked

What they did last night was nothing short of disgraceful to some of the greatest people/orginizations the country has ever known. This cannot stand and must be challenged and denounced, and people must be made to know exactly what they said.

They are evil, evil people.

David

[ihavenobias]

79. K & R, I was disgusted by that n/t

[President Decider]

82. Mark my words .... this is an issue that is going to bite her in the ass ..... BIG TIME!

Those very same organizers that she just disparaged, will organize one hell of an opposition against her.

[Kweli4Real]

83. But don't the Republicans want ...

The government to entrust the social safety net to, er, COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS?

[BklynChick]

84. I work for non-profit orgs in NYC and this came in today's NYNP newsletter

Community Organizing is No Joke
Nonprofit Leaders Outraged at Convention Remarks

Many members of the nonprofit community went to bed a little angry and a litte hurt last night after their work and life’s calling became an object of ridicule at the Republican National Convention.

"He worked as a community organizer. . . . What?" said former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani with a chuckle during an attack on the experience and credentials of Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama. Giulani’s comments drew an extended round of derisive laugher from the convention delegates. It was a theme which Republican Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin would continue when she described her role as small town mayor as being “sorta like a community organizer – except with real, actual responsibilities.”

“It was despicable,” said Terry Misrahi, Ph.D., Professor and Chair, Community Organizing, Planning and Development Program at Hunter College School of Social Work. “Not only don’t they understand what community organizers do but they obviously don’t respect them.”

“Fundamentally, community organizing is a strategy where regular citizens come together to make their communities stronger,” said Richard R. Buery, Jr., Executive Director of Groundwork, Inc., a community-based organization which now provides a wide range of after-school, youth development, employment training and family services in the in East New York section of Brooklyn. “Community organizing is the Montgomery bus boycott, the march on Selma and 3000 Nehemiah homes in Brooklyn. Community organizers are hardworking, underpaid people who help their neighbors.”

“Settlement Houses have been doing this since their founding,” said Nancy Wackstein, Executive Director of United Neighborhood Houses. “It is democracy. It is involving people in the decisions that affect their lives.”

Several observers expressed little surprise that Giuliani would ridicule the field. “For eight years, he was trying to hold power and fight organized communities,” said Buery.

The attacks by Palin were more of a surprise, according to others, particularly given her proud claims to past experience on the PTA and as a “Hockey Mom”. “How can you celebrate that and then voice this disregard for community organizing?” asked Buery. “An effective PTA is community organizing.” Others noted that hockey leagues, like soccer and little league baseball, are only possible because community members come together to organize. “As a mayor of a small town, she should understand how difficult it is to get people organized to get anything done,” said Buery.

“It is particularly hypocritical because so many of the people they are attacking on the one hand are the very armies of faith based compassion they are lauding on the other,” said Joel Berg, Executive Director of the New York City Coalition Against Hunger.

“Community organizers are essential partners within the faith community,” said Rev. Joel A. Gibson, Director of Faith Based Services at Federation of Protestant Welfare Agencies. “They help unite people of different religions, class, and cultures around a common purpose, and build vital relationships among churches and the social service infrastructure to help feed the hungry and house the homeless.”

“Not to understand the function and the critical role of community organizers is really not to understand people who suffer in our country,” said Rev. Terry Troia, Executive Director of Project Hospitality, which itself began a grass-roots clergy response to homelessness on Staten Island. Today, the organization serves over 10,000 separate individuals every year through soup kitchens, food pantries, a homeless shelter, permanent supportive housing, substance abuse treatment and more.

“Our staff, our VISTAs and our entry-level organizers are people who are making a fraction of what they could be earning down the street,” said Berg. “To have their legitimacy as human beings and as Americans attacked is really offensive. If a Democrat had said this, we would be equally outraged.

“It is interesting that we have now made the list of villains,” Berg added. “We have joined public employees, teachers and the media. It is a bit much.”

[dana_b]

102. “Not to understand the function and the critical role of community organizers is really not to

and the critical role of community organizers is really not to understand people who suffer in our country"

Well that's it, isn't it? They don't understand nor do the care.
Great read - thanks

[concerned canadian]

157. "not only don't they understand what community workers do

but they obviously don't respect them". That thought must have been running through the
minds of millions of viewers last night. Ignorance and arrogance will not be tolerated this time!

[heliarc]

85. It was really weird to watch the RNC....

build up a first and second day that was chock full of Community organizers talking about how charitable organizations and community activism is the core of christian values and good citizenship and then have Rudy Guiliani and Sarah Palin insult all the speakers of the first 2 days by throwing them under the bus through their statements. We heard from a young woman who had started a program to buy condemned houses and renovate them in order to house poor people, and how she organized students and neighbors to help... as well as Michelle Bachman who talked about being someone who volunteers and serves the community as a foster parent, and then Sarah Palin took a dump on all of them and said that government work as a mayor was more important than working as a community organizer. Then they continued to claim their small government stances while at the same time arguing that mayors are more important than charitable and service minded individuals. These guys are schizophrenic in the extreme.

[dana_b]

103. good catch

let's point this out to the damn Palin-loving MSM.

Or would it even matter to them??

[lenegal]

86. O has more class in his little finger than Palin's entire family

Ah yes, the Republican slime machine. So Palin aka "lets pop those babies out and that goes for my daughter too", has a big yap.

What in hell is she supposed to say? That the economy is in shambles? We are in Iraq going on six years? The deficit has never been higher?

She is nothing but Alaskan trash.

The Repukes have absolutely nothing to offer us in November but more of the same. And all the screaming by Palin is not going to make reality different.

[radfringe]

91. Ban ALL Community Organizers!

Ban ALL Community Organizers!

From Gov. Mitt Romney, Mayor Rudy Guilliani to Gov. Sarah Palin - Community Organizers are bad. After listening to them I'm convinced community organizers are bad and should be banned.

When a local church group knocks on my door and asks for donations - I will slam the door in their face. When the Salvation Army rings their bell at the corner, I'll kick over their kettle. If the Elks, the Moose, the Rotary Club pleads asks for help with a community project, I will spit in their faces.

If there are donation cans at the cashier counter in my local store which ask for help for someone in need of an operation, I'll pass it by. If my neighbor has a house fire, I'll tell them tough luck - you are on your own. When a hurricane hits, I won't send money. If there's another 9-11 - too bad, I won't give money. The Red Cross wants blood donations? Sorry - YOU ARE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER!!!

When the local Veterans Organization asks for items to be sent to our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - they will get nothing from me. Schools - don't call on me to help with a bake sale or a car wash. Hey Girl Scouts - don't bother trying to sell me cookies. Boy Scouts - forget the aluminum can drives. Those cans are mine and you can't have them.

I also call on the Republican Party to formally admonish themselves for postponing their convention to take part in community organization activities by helping people hurt by Hurricane Gustav.

[TexasLady]

99. Sarah, you may not have written that speech, but now you OWN this

stupid little stab.

[Arm Chair Politician]

105. k/r!

[wizstars]

110. Doesn't "Palin" kinda rhyme w/ "Stalin"? n/t

[JimDandy]

117. No, but it kinda looks like it! n/t

[happygoluckytoyou]

111. already passed this on to my daughter who works with "community kids"... it will spread...

do the same if you have the time----- get this sent to your local "community workers" there is nothing like an insult to bring in the hard working community of "local helpers"

[BumRushDaShow]

119. Blowback time. n/t

[Captiosus]

123. Gee...

Getting beyond the funny, but true, "Jesus was a community organizer" comments, here's a more modern example:

Where would places like New Orleans be after Hurricane Katrina if it hadn't been for community organizers working tirelessly in places like the 9th Ward? Community Organizers are usually some of the first people on the scene helping folks out after a natural disaster - well before FEMA, sometimes even before the state National Guard. Where would disaster ravaged communities be without them?

After Hurricane Floyd in 1999, as an adult leader of my Scout troop, I helped organize a troop community effort to help local victims who had been flooded out of their homes and had no food, no water, and basically had just the clothes on their backs. Adults and Scouts in my troop worked hard to get donations of food to package meals for those who had nothing, but my efforts had no responsibility? I didn't see our Mayor doing anything but commenting on how fortunate we were that the damage wasn't worse.

[pookieblue]

127. Good for them...speaking out....

When I heard what both she and Rudy said last night, I got extremly upset.

I just goes to show that NeoCons have nothing but contempt for people who helps others. Let me add..not all Repubs feel this way... and I would hope that their stomachs turned as much as mine did last night.

I know just how much work it is, for what little I did. (helping organizing a walk). I was the coordinator/organizer for the ms walk. For three years, I was the only one of two people who stepped up to the plate. I will tell you, it's hard work.
I had to all the things that comes with organizing a big event...on top of working a full time job. I spent my lunch hours either on the phone or running around town.
I would then have to stay up to 3 in the mornings, working on the things I could not get done during the day at work.

I had to do all this, even though I have MS myself. I was putting my own health at risk, because I know that the cause is so important. Others were counting on me.

Yet, here is Palin and Rudy mocking Community Organizers. People who put other's needs before their own. How Dare They??!!!

[everything-bolt-up]

132. kick

[bagimin]

133. Repukes mocking the poor and disadvantaged?

Why I'm shocked,just shocked I tell ya.

[dassix]

134. hmm...

I guess helping out less fortunate people in urban developments is a joke. At least Sarah joined the like minded cons.

Edit: Decided to take out some of the name calling.

[mahuang]

140. If you want to reach a nation.....

start from your corner!

[DallasNE]

145. This Is Just Another Example Of The Republican

Use of veiled racism. First the Republicans decry using tax money to help the disadvantaged. Now they mock charities for helping the disadvantaged. Yes, folks, the Republicans are that mean -- especially when the people involved are people of color. That is how they view the world. Let them eat cake.

[Goldie999]

147. Not that I'm an expert

Not that I'm an expert in this area, but wasn't Jesus a "community organizer"?

[Lavender Brown]

149. I'm glad someone is addressing her comments

I thought the response from Obama-Biden wasn't strong enough in defending her nastiness.

[MH1]

150. I hope Catholics realize

that many fundamentalists don't consider Catholics "true Christians". (I don't know if Palin's crowd is among them, but I would suspect it.)

Between no Catholics voting for them, and no sane women* voting for them, November could be a blowout. Oh please let it be so...


* given that the Republican Party adopted a plank in the platform that says a woman's life has less value than a fetus; no exception for rape, incest, or because the woman will DIE unless she has an abortion... I'd say any woman that votes Republican is INSANE. What's next, a man gets to throw acid in your face if he thinks you "dishonored" him, and it's all hunky dory with these people?

[Pierre.Suave]

151. I posted a picture of some Community Organizers here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8072607&mesg_id=8072607

[McSame08]

152. this will fire up the community organizers everywhere.

especially catholic organizers.

[and-justice-for-all]

158. so how many votes did she just lose...

from this rhetoric of bullshit?

[scarface2004]

159. community organizer...code word for 'nigger'!!

figure it out. insert the word 'nigger', and the sneering mocking smirking speech makes a lot more sense for a republikkkan!

[ekwhite]

160. Mike Malloy had the best comment on mocking community organizers tonight...

He said "Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor."

[MindMatter]

165. Community service: It ain't just for Catholics

This whole argument is extremely insulting, and extremely typical of Republicans. If it doesn't make you rich, they don't see any value in it. Disgusting display really.

[TOOLZ]

168. wear this COMMUNITY ORGANIZER shirt!

I urge people to check out this shirt and wear it with pride!

http://www.cafepress.com/proud_organizer

COMMUNITY ORGANIZER (with Obama's "O" logo)