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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:09 AM
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Iran May Reciprocate Western Sanctions With Similar Move
Source: FARS NEWS AGENCY

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed sanctions by the world powers against his country as illegal, and said that Iran may impose sanctions against the world's predominant forces in response.

"We do not care for the sanctions by immoral countries and predominant forces. However, If these countries take further (negative) steps, Iran will show an appropriate reaction and adopt similar sanctions," Ahmadinejad said in an interview with the Japanese NHK channel.

"We regard sanctions as illegal and don't recognize them," he added.

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Tehran stresses that the country has always pursued a civilian path to provide power to the growing number of Iranian population, whose fossil fuel would eventually run dry.

Despite the rules enshrined in the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) entitling every member state, including Iran, to the right of uranium enrichment, Tehran is now under three rounds of UN Security Council sanctions for turning down West's illegitimate calls to give up its right of uranium enrichment.

Tehran has dismissed West's demands as politically tainted and illogical, stressing that sanctions and pressures merely consolidate Iranians' national resolve to continue the path.

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The February report by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, praised Iran's cooperation in clearing up all of the past questions over its nuclear program, vindicating Iran's nuclear program and leaving no justification for any new UN sanctions.

The UN nuclear watchdog has also carried out at least 14 surprise inspections of Iran's nuclear sites so far, but found nothing to support West's allegations.

The Vienna-based UN nuclear watchdog continues snap inspections of Iranian nuclear sites and has reported that all "declared nuclear material in Iran has been accounted for, and therefore such material is not diverted to prohibited activities."

Read more: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8706150786
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:13 AM
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1. Damn that sounds freakin familiar! n/t
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:18 AM
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2. The Shah's plan...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:21 AM by Baby Snooks
"Tehran stresses that the country has always pursued a civilian path to provide power to the growing number of Iranian population, whose fossil fuel would eventually run dry."


The reality is they have merely continued the Shah's plan which they couldn't pursue before because of previous sanctions which impacted their economy. They will never admit it is the Shah's plan but it is.

The Shah knew the reality of Hubbert's Peak and the reality of depletion. As did Jimmy Carter. Every president since Jimmy Carter has chosen to take the approach that all the world's oil is ours. And so we now have had our first war for oil. Others to follow.

The problem is we do not have an unlimited supply of oil and gas and at best the export supply of the oil producing countries will last maybe 15 years according to some. They have to provide for their own. At which point, again, we will see more wars for oil. For "our" oil. And then suddenly there will be no more oil. Or gas. And our lights will go out.

Iran will have lights on in its cities in 20 years. Maybe we can just invade and occupy Iran in 20 years and just hook into their power stations. No doubt Halliburton will run the transmission lines across the Atlantic. Or just resettle the "haves and have-mores" to Iran and resettle the Iranians here. Here. Where life will not be pleasant.

We have been lied to all these years. We are running out of time as well as oil. According to those who have studied the reality instead of damning the theory of Hubbert, we will begin to see supply problems in five years. Possibly sooner. Not here. But elsewhere. And we will of course ignore it. The way we ignore so much. We are foolish people.

Everything in our lives is oil-dependant. More than just our cars and our power plants. In 100 years our cities will be nothing more than relics of our civilization which came to an end 50 years before if we do not start conserving and start developing alternative energy and fuel sources. The only two that might keep the lights on are wind and water. Harnessing the wind. Harnessing the ocean and its currents the way we do rivers when we damn them up. We are not doing so because there is no profit in them at this point. We are a country driven by profit. Wind energy however, is not viable for our large cities. Water energy is as can be seen with the hydroelectric generation of Hoover Dam. But we cannot build Hoover Dams all over the country because we do not have the massive canyons that allowed Hoover Dam to be built all over the country. But there are the ocean currents that run off our shores. Instead of building new drilling rigs, we should be building hydroelectric generators that would harness those currents. The problem is no one has developed them. We don't need them. That has been the excuse offered for not developing alternative energy sources for the past 30 years. We don't need them. Which is really to say there is no profit in them.

And then there is nuclear energy. John McCain mentioned that in his speech. Barack Obama seems to have avoided mentioning it. But we cannot wait if that is what it will take to ensure our lights stay on in our cities. And so far it probably is the only option. We are, again, running out of time as well as oil.

Those who oppose nuclear energy should go spend a week in the mountains somewhere with no battery powered lights and no propane stoves. Find out what it is like to have no source of energy. That is our future.

Einstein didn't discover the atom in order to build a bomb. He discovered the atom in order to provide a new energy source. Do you know who really opposed nuclear power more than anyone else in the beginning? The oil and gas industry. It would cut into their profits.

Congress needs to accept the reality of peak oil and depletion and finally address the problem we face which is a world without oil and gas. Our energy policy should be based on the needs of the people rather than the oil and gas industry. And so far the Democrats seem to believe it should be based on the needs of the oil and gas industry.

Some believe by the way that the price of oil is being artificially lowered to give an advantage to the Republicans. Most people in this country do not watch the stock market or care about unemployment figures. All they watch is the price at the pump. That is how they view the economy. The White House has nothing to claim at this point except lower prices for oil and of course lower prices for gasoline.

If they manage to get the price at the pump below $3 a gallon and claim this administration is reponsible, the Republicans will win in a landslide.

We are foolish people. We are also slightly stupid at times.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:56 AM
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3. Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons. She can wield the oil-supply weapon
if necessary.

Apart from moral and legal reasons (and, make no mistake: Islamic culture has always been profoundly based on moral and legal grounds - at least that's the number one impression I take away from a study of what available history is extant of the early years of Al Andalus), nuclear weapons could serve no rational purpose other than to respond to a preemptive strike from a madman (or woman). The ultimate negative-sum game all round.

Where are such mad people with such power truly to be found?

Even the most oil-rich and submissive-population Gulf States are interested in developing nuclear energy, since they understand that their oil reserves are finite, and will become increasingly valuable on world markets as time goes by. Why burn it all now? Iran clearly thinks the same.

No. More of the usual lies and (US-'Western') media spin.

I opine that the Iranian government would now probably be quite justified in turning the taps off, cutting world oil supply by whatever it is, ~~ 10%?

But yes, this would also hurt (the not quite so consumerism-addicted) Iran, which lacks refinery capacity with which to supply internal domestic demand, in large part due to the actions, it seems, of 'Western' special forces.

Ummm. Right now's the proverbial "interesting time", I feel.
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