McCain still trails Obama 44 per cent to 48

[JI7]

Source: economic times

The Republican National convention may have helped presidential nominee Senator MCCain to "recoup some of his losses" in public support, according to Gallup polls.

Its latest tracking poll of the presidential race shows Democratic nominee Barack Obama still leading, 48 per cent to McCain's 44 per cent. That compares with Obama's 49 per cent -42 per cent lead on Friday and or 8 points lead he held over the past week.

The latest numbers, based on Tuesday-through-Thursday telephone interviews of 2,779 registered voters, don't fully reflect any changes in opinion since Wednesday night's convention address from GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, or last night's address by McCain.

Gallup says the new numbers have margins of error of +/- 2 per cent age points. Two weeks ago, before the two parties' back-to-back conventions, the tracking poll showed Obama and McCain in a 45 per cent - 45 per cent tie.


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i'm guessing most of the McCain gains will be due to increase in support among the right wing. these are the type that will never vote for Obama . at best for Obama they would stay home and not vote because of lack of support for McCain.

[Solly Mack]

1. McCain is pathetic

I can't work up any sympathy or compassion or respect for him

Never much could for people who wanted me to feel sorry for them

There's a huge difference between people sharing their pain and receiving sympathy...and people who share their pain just to gain pity

[mwb970]

15. He's sharing his pain to gain power, not pity.

That's even more pathetic.

[Solly Mack]

26. yes..to gain the pity vote

which brings the power

[BearSquirrel2]

20. We need a 527 to air the Daily Show montages ...

We need a 527 to air those Daily Show montages in battleground states. They're absolutely devastating. McCain's flip flops and Republican hypocrisy all in their own words. Yes, it's already airing for free. But the Daily show is a particular demographic. They need to get this stuff playing on CSI or whatever "bread and circuses" shows that swing voters watch.

The fundamentalists are beyond reason. They live in their Socratic Caves with Faux News playing on the wall. They are immune from both reason and facts. Faux will provide a twisted rationalization for whatever they may see if they happen go glance at the entrance of the cave. If they will accept Palin despite her moral ambiguity within their own rigid code, how could you possibly attack them.

Get the message out to the "swing voters" that's the name of the election.

[HughBeaumont]

2. Shouldn't even be THAT close.

I live in a nation of doorknobs.

A Rasmussen poll came out recently. I . . . this is unbelievable . . . well, really it's not, considering that, again, I live in a nation of doorknobs . . .

Q. If necessary, is Palin ready to be president?

Yes 40%
No 44%
Not Sure 15%

:wtf:

Q. Who has better experience to be president, Palin or Barack Obama?

Mind you, Palin is not RUNNING for president, but the results?

Obama 49%
Palin 44%
not sure 8%

So, that makes 52% of lobotomy patients, racists, dickheads and sub-idiots.

Astounding. Absolutely Amazing and Astounding.

I used to think that the idea of the average voter having to take a test before he or she is allowed to vote was ridiculous . . . I'm actually starting to rethink that opinion when I read shit like this.

[rfranklin]

12. The problem is not enough people vote...

and there are only two parties. With more parties you could split off the loonies on the left and the right to smaller splinter groups. And if everyone were required to vote, you could move this country to more progressive ideas and programs.

[HughBeaumont]

18. Which begats another problem: WHY is our election on a TUESDAY?

And why ISN'T that day a national holiday?

Most industrial civilized countries . . . you know, the ones that use tax dollars to educate, transport and heal their citizens, have social safety nets and don't do everything at the behest of their wealthy . . . vote on either Saturday or Sunday.

Oh wait, that's right. It's for the same damned reason that instead of making higher education available for all citizens, we're making it out-of-pocket, less affordable and harder to attain. It's because the people at the top of the pyramid (and Paul Weyrich even said this in 1980) don't WANT everyone to vote. Just like education, they don't WANT to make voting easy or attainable. Here's the simple reason: Any candidate that's funded by every corporation and top-of-the-chain wealthy fascist and hires CEO jackals like Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman and Free-Trader scumbags like Phil Gramm and Martin Feldstein would be at a stark disadvantage if WORKERS, en masse, had a day off to vote instead of 1-2 hours of their day waiting in 3-block lines to enact their rights as a citizen. Make believe most of those people are somewhat educated and didn't have a choice between Corporate News 1 or Corporate News 2 to watch, and you wouldn't even SEE a right-wing political cancer inflict it's misery on this once-great country.

Here's another thing - Citizens in other countries have the right to vote just by being BORN there. Why exactly do we have to REGISTER to vote, canvass, do voting drives, worry about whether or not we'll be purged from voting rolls, etc, etc?

See above.

[ohio2007]

31. Gallup shows a post convention hiccup. I'm sure it will flatline in a week

[Curtland1015]

3. Not bad at all really.

You always see a bump after these conventions. Obama and McCain were tied going in, and we have the lead going out. We got the bigger bump.

Cautious optimism.

[apnu]

5. Wait until monday. the full effect of the Palin distraction isn't in yet.

But I'm with you. *fingers crossed*

[annabanana]

4. sigh. . Here we go again kids.

We have to rec this up to the greatest.. It seems the media is mostly quoting some other poll that has it dead even. They are talking about the bump from the DEM convention and showing the 45 - 45% poll in the bottom half of the screen.

The small print on the screen will tell you that the 45 - 45 isn't the Dem bump

.. and the droning voices of the bobbleheads will tell you that the Dem bump was about 6 points...

But if you're one of the millions of Americans who don't "do politics" and just have the TV on in the background while you go about your business. . .Well, I don't have to tell you what the received impression is.

This is just one of the many ways they screw us.

[RoccoR5955]

6. I think that with the hatchet job that Caribou Barbie did on the Press the other day...

...the Press are itching to get some dirt on her, and they will. Just give it a little time. I also think that there is normally a bump after the convention, which probably isn't all in yet. If McAncient doesn't pass Obama by the middle of next week, it's highly unlikely that he can win.

Also, these polls are not calling cell phones, and as we all know, a lot of younger voters, who were energized by Obama, have no land line, and thus, are not counted in these polls.

We have our work cut out for us. We have to get out the vote, because the more people who vote, the more Democrats get elected. It's simple math. There are more registered Democrats in our country than there are Republicans.

So take the polls with a grain of salt, and get out there, and register voters!

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. She dared them, so watch what happens.

[BearSquirrel2]

21. I'm not sure about this analysis ...

If you just count whoever answers the phone, it will be REALLY bad data. Polls are weighted according to demographics and historical demographic turnout. You have to as some demographics tend not to talk to pollsters but they will show up and vote.

By this virtue, young people are always under-represented as they tend not to show up and vote. But it's not because they have cell phones instead of land lines.

The Republican pollsters know this as they are the ones weighting their data. The stat that will concern them is seeing lots of new registrations from young WHITE voters. I don't think they're overly concerned about minority registrations as there are they have methods of knocking out these voters. However, if there are surges of likely Demographic votes showing up in Republican efforts, this will fuck up their caging strategies. Add to this the fact that a buttload of Republican voters crossed party lines to vote for Hillary and you have a real problem as to who to throw off the voter roles in order to win the election.

[AndyTiedye]

27. The Press Will All Decide They Aren't Being NICE ENOUGH to the Repiggies

and not attacking the Democrats enough.

Every time McCain complains that the press isn't in the tank for him enough, they get in the tank for him even more!

[Auggie]

8. Aren't national polls worthless if it comes down to electoral votes?

I would think it's more important to know who is leading in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Michigan...

[robcon]

11. Not at all worthless. It's the best measure of the election.

Since state polls are spotty (some states are not polled, and the timing of the various state polls differs - sometimes tremendously - from state to state) it gives us a better view of the direction of the electorate than state by state projections, IMO.

[melody]

23. State by state has always been a better predictor than nationals n/t

[kelvinyany]

9. It depends on which poll you are looking at

Obama drops the ball this time by not picking Hillary as his VP

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Primaries are over. The team has been picked. C'est si bon.

[stlsaxman]

14. and Kerry dropped it last time w/ Breck Boy... and Gore w/ Loserman- right?

:eyes:

[Divine Discontent]

34. enjoy your pizza!

this is the 2nd post I've seen by you today, one was a "BREAKING NEWS" post of an online poll showing McCrazy ahead by 4 points, and now this gibberish trying to appear like you're pro-Hillary.


what is it I wanted to say to you, I can't quite remember? let's see, what was it Cheney said to the kind senator Leahy??? hmmm anyone?

[KillCapitalism]

13. Palinmania didn't seem to give McCain much of a bump.

I have a feeling that bump was more of a dead cat bounce anyway. Once the debates start Obama/Biden are going to start pulling away because I think they will trounce McCain & Palin in debates.

Oh, and the skyrocketing unemployment rate is really bad news for the GOP right now.

[BenHoffman]

16. Palin is another Bush

The Obama campaign needs to start running some commercials about who Palin really is -- the corruption, scandals, abuse of power, out of control spending. There's a lot on her, even though she's only been governor for less than two years and mayor of a town of less than 10,000 people. She left the town of Wasilla with a debt of nearly twenty million dollars. That's not change; that's more of Bush's policies.

[Curtland1015]

17. What a sexist thing to sa... oh, wait, I get it.

:blush:

Anywho... yeah. Palin is actually worse than Bush. Bush is an idiot with right wing values. Palin has more brains and balls (in a bad way...) than he does AND the neo-con attitude. She's much more dangerous, IMO.

[yojon]

19. Palin HAS accomplished all the slimy things Bush dreams of

Set up a political machine that eats its enemies, got a town of 7000 $26M in debt, built her own little sports stadium that sucks money (haven't heard if it was an eminent domain rip off like Astro Stadium), stated explicitly that God persecutes jews because they have not accepted Jesus, had an affair with her husbands business partner, etc etc. Who says she is incompetent.

[BearSquirrel2]

25. Down with Pork Barrelers ...

Yeah, McCain voted with Bush and the Republican Mega Pork congress for 6 years. And he's the "reformer".

Someone needs to do an analysis on what Arizona "gets". It's like the "bridge to nowhere". They removed the earmark for it. But Alaska STILL got all the money. Who wants to bet that Arizona still got "theirs" and more ... just without the earmark, just like the "bridge to nowhere ... money".

Now someone has to get on the topic of how much each Alaskan "gets". Alaskan is the biggest welfare state in the nation. They get direct oil subsidies and a shitload of money from the rest of us. Palin has the tits to cut spending on money for special education, cut money for helping unwed mothers learn the skills they need, at the same time they're getting way more from the feds then they are putting in.

We aren't going to win Alaska. It's probably a good thing to call out Alaska as the welfare queens they are as opposed to the "rugged individualists". And Palin is the biggest welfare queen of all of them. And lets not confuse ourselves, Palin was able to get all that money for her little welfare city by her connections with indicted Senator Ted Stevens as evidence by her heading his 527 committee.

BTW, Ted Stevens says he wants a speedy trial. But I bet it will proceed with the pace of the R. Kelly trial.

[BearSquirrel2]

22. What about McCain ...

Shit, what about McCain. He has more flip-flops than a circus performer and it's ALL on video!!! This kind of undermines the whole "straight talking maverick" persona doesn't it.

My hope is that they're waiting till closer to Nov 3 when it will be more difficult for the Repukes to explain it all away.

[faulknercindy]

24. Everybody is talking about the polls...

the more important thing is this http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

[treestar]

32. And that's without having to get Ohio or Florida or Virginia!

Obama may be able to get one of those states, too!

Many of these braindead who are giving mcSame his "bounce" are already in red states anyway. so McWar gets those EV by an even bitter margin. Big deal.

[WePurrsevere]

28. It might be higher. It may have been on PBS that I heard...

something along the lines that voter registration has increased dramatically recently, that most of those that are newly registered are younger people who tend to lean heavily towards voting for Obama and that because they're so new they're not being polled yet.

Hopefully this is true. :)

[Codeine]

29. FiveThirtyEight

estimates McCain will take a lead of a couple points tomorrow after Obama's good Wed. numbers cycle out of the average.

[ohio2007]

30. zogby 9-5/6

Pollster John Zogby: "Clearly, Palin is helping the McCain ticket. She has high favorability numbers, and has unified the Republican Party. The striking thing here in this poll is that McCain has pulled ahead among Catholics by double-digits. On the other hand, Palin is not helping with likely voting women who are not aligned with either political party. The undecided independent women voters decreased this week from 15% to 7%, but those women went to Obama. Palin is also helping among men, conservatives, notably with suburban and rural voters, and with frequent Wal-Mart shoppers, who tend to be "values" voters who like a good value for their money."


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548


zogby can be skewed if anybody wants to join;

http://interactive.zogby.com/pollregistration/registration/


Gallup


http://www.gallup.com/poll/110047/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Shrinks-Points.aspx

[Divine Discontent]

33. and what gains they made with the nutjob hard-right have been nearly eclipsed by independents

fleeing to Obama/Biden... so no bounce for you, McSame!

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[Divine Discontent]

35. YAY!

you know, something I never liked, is that the media reports the national poll as much more important - BUT - we don't elect by national polling!!!!! DUH! They should give a polling result of where the electoral votes stand if voting occurred today - I don't really care about national polls - it's the electoral vote that elects our Obama!


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