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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:35 PM
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ap-gfkpoll McCain 48, Obama 44, DK-Other , 9
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:02 PM
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1. Let's see ,941 land lines and 246 cell phone respondents....
....what are the breakdowns from the former and the later?
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:07 PM
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2. i was
trying to make a comparison of previous polls, but they dont seem to have any online.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:51 PM
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3. 48+44+9 = 101
:freak:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:19 PM
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14. That's why they invented electronic voting
Making it seem that the counters are not mathematically challenged is an important feat :D
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:53 PM
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4. Some detail extracted from pdf @ link: look at the profiles!
Contacts:

(Strong-moderate-lean) R/D 40/43
(Strongly-somewhat-lean) Conservative/Liberal 57/35

2004 voted Bush/Kerry 50/40
Own/rent 74/16

(Born-again or Evangelical) yes/no 46/51

Household income ($50K+,<$50K) 57/36

Northeast/Midwest/South/West 20/26/37/18

Res ipsa loquitr

1217 adults; 812 likely voters. MOE adults 2.8, likely voters 3.4

Likely voters:

McCain/Obama 48/44
Want R/D to control congress 41/46
(Strongly-somewhat-lean) approve/disapprove GWB 38/61
Country headed right/wrong way 71/26
Economy (very-somewhat-lean) good/poor 23/72
Own financial situation (very-somewhat-lean) good/poor 61/30
(Strongly-somewhat-lean) oppose/favor Iraq withdrawal timetable 33/59
(Strongly-somewhat-lean) oppose/favor boost troops Afghanistan 36/51

McCain cares about people like self (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all) 70/28
Obama cares about people like self (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all) 67/28

Palin cares about people like self (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all) 56/24
Biden cares about people like self (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all) 53/28

Prefer candidate with values/experience 67/29

Shares own values (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all)
McCain 67/28
Obama 58/37
Palin 51/25
Biden 47/28

Shares own issue positions (a lot - somewhat)/(not much - not at all)
McCain 68/28
Obama 60/37
Palin 54/26
Biden 49/29

(Has/not) right type of experience
McCain 80/15
Obama 46/47
Palin 41/36
Biden 58/20















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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:03 PM
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9. 37% from the south? 18% from the west?
Wow, that's some really weighted polling there...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:17 AM
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10. Midwest and South
Have you looked at the numbers in some of those states? McCain has double digit leads. So they take more voters from states that are already disproportionately right - and McCain is barely even.

We really need to dig down in those polls and re-weight them and see what the numbers really are.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:27 AM
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12. Doesn't California vote? Not according to this, I guess.
This poll blows. Look at the demos: polled a majority of southern Bush voters all making over 50K a year? Hmmm. I was so sure they'd be voting for Obama. :eyes:
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:23 AM
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11. They skew their polling so it won't be a surprise when they do the same with the election results?
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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5. This sounds like a very skewed poll. If the letter below is accurate it seems to
be about 20% higher in conservatives polled than would be indicated by actual votes in the 2004 election. Sounds like another preemptive attempt to aid and abet election theft by the Repugs.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:34 PM
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6. Not surprising
I was a subject for Zogby's polls in 2001, and we could see the results after we'd finished our questions. He was polling 55% Republicanites, 45% Democrats, so Bush always came out ahead.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:24 PM
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7. These pollesters make assumptions that the republicans are more motivated
to vote then the Democrats, and they try to factor that in

They will be wearing egg on their face if they continue with that view



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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:58 PM
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8. They Assume Republican Votes Are More Likely to be Counted Than Democratic Votes
That is probably a correct assumption. :(

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 11:30 AM
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13. The Quinnipac poll is almost the opposite
Makes me wonder about how accurate any of them really are.
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