(Hillary) Clinton fulfilling new role with gusto

[Nambe]

Source: Boston Globe

...Vanquished primary candidates usually go home to rest and ponder the high points and lows of their failed effort. Clinton, in contrast, raised more than $4 million for the Obama campaign and repeatedly urged her supporters to campaign for Obama and contribute to his cause. She hosted a reception in Denver for 250 of her donors and is scheduled to be in Chicago tonight for another fund-raising event. She has another fund-raising event scheduled for Sept. 22 in New York City, with the goal of raising $500,000.

The top women's groups that supported Clinton endorsed Obama and Clinton is urging all the unions that endorsed her in the primary to back Obama.

She is holding rallies in battleground states like Florida, New Hampshire, and Ohio. Staff members from Clinton's presidential campaign are now working to elect Obama and his running mate, Senator Joe Biden of Delaware.

"She has a special role and she is fulfilling it with gusto," said Kathleen Strand, a Clinton spokesperson. It is a special role and it requires as much gusto as possible. ...

Read more: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/14/clinton_fulfilling_new_role_with_gusto/

[CarbonDate]

1. Can I say this now that we're all on the same team?

I love Hillary. I backed Obama in the primaries, but she's winning my support for future Presidential bids (hopefully in 2016, not 2012) if that's the way she chooses to go.

Yep, party unity has come a long way... on both sides, I think.

[Lost River Ledger]

2. I want her on the Supreme Court!

[davekriss]

26. I'll second that!! (nt)

[aquart]

37. Absolutely NOT.

Talk about disposing as kleenex and flushing away. That shows real terror that she might somehow manage to come back, dear god, and actually get to the White House.

[bunkerbuster1]

71. There's a weird-ass take...

Please. In some ways a SCOTUS appointment means more power than a President.

My only problem with Hillary in that slot is she's too old. I want every appointment from Obama to be no older than early-mid 40s. I want them around, keeping Conservatives awake nights for as long as I'm around, hopefully longer.

[Cha]

30. First things first!

No, Hillary wouldn't be one those who are "vanquished" and it turns out neither is Biden, Gore, Kerry, and Gov Richardson is gonna bring us New Mexico!.ect..

Maybe ghouliani and mitt.

[SharonAnn]

61. I'd like to see her as Attorney General.

[wordpix]

85. I'd rather have someone like Fitz---remember him--& may Hillary be the Senate's next "Ted Kennedy"

We need a gutsy person to carry on that fight.

[Honeycombe8]

69. She's neither qualified nor would she want that introspective, isolated job. She's best out front..

interacting with people, helping to shape policy. That is her strong point.

Justices sit in rooms, alone or with geeky staffers. Plus, it's a part-time job, and they are not allowed to get involved in political matters in their free time.

Justices are not political people. They are legal experts. Hillary is not a legal expert. She is an expert political person.

[Justpat]

75. excellent point. n/t

[sendero]

96. I think if HRC wants it..

... it should be hers. She's earned that much, though I was not a supporter of her for president.

Is Obama is elected, he should offer up whatever post HRC wants and is qualified for.

[stlsaxman]

3. BFT she started getting some coverage.

now that the mania over Phalin has died down maybe Hillary and more importantly Joe will get more press coverage.

Lettuce Prey.

[Jackpine Radical]

23. Amen. And BTW, you made me reflect for a moment

on just what it might be that lettuce preys upon.

[stlsaxman]

99. lettuce BE the prey

:silly:

[Democat]

4. Go Hillary!

Kick ass on the right wingers!

[1776Forever]

5. Thank you to Hillary and to President Clinton for supporting Sen. Obama ..

The country needs you! We must win this and I know Hillary will have a wonderful future in whatever she chooses to pursue! I heard someone say on a talk show the other day that Palin doesn't have the respect to carry Hillary's pantsuit to a dry cleaners! I couldn't agree more! Hillary is to be commended for her commitment to get a Democrat, Barack Obama, into the White House!



:headbang: :yourock: :headbang:

[Oskie]

32. HRC supporter pledges....

WIll YOU ALL join me in emailing the HRC camp: She helps Obama and the Dems take the WH and I'll donate to reduce her campaign debt.

[1776Forever]

45. I was just thinking the same thing. We are mighty together! Hillary are you listening?

:hi:

[dana_b]

47. well said and here! here!!

:bounce:

[kath]

89. Hear! Hear!!

{schoolmarm}

Glad to see Hillary and the Big Dog hitting the campaign trail! WOOT!!

[dipsydoodle]

6. Hillary has got

class : unlike the the Repugs proposed VPee.

[Gillian]

7. She will be a great asset to President Obama

Barring another tragic travesty.

[simmonsj811]

8. Kicking to the top!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Wetzelbill]

9. Hillary for SCOTUS

She deserves it and it would royally piss off the whole Republican Party.

[jmowreader]

10. Even better...

seat Hillary on the Court first, then seat Bill. President Clinton taught Constitutional Law at Georgetown; he's definitely qualified to sit on the Supreme Court.

[karynnj]

20. When did Clinton teach constitutional law at Georgetown?

He attended Georgetown as an undergrad, went to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar, then to Yale law school. From there he went to Arkansas and was on the Law school faculty there, as well as AG and of course Governor.

Personally, I think both would not be good picks. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath - it was not a good reason to impeach, but it is a problem as a SCJ As to HRC, her law experience was as a corporate lawyer. She is a politician and could become a good one - but I really don't think she would be a good choice as SCJ (This is NOT a hit on HRC, I would say the same for JK, even though he has a far better record on ethics and did a great job as prosecutor - like, the Clintons, he has never been a judge. This is not a requirement, but the judicial record is the best indicator of judicial world view.

[LiberalFighter]

24. Thomas was only a judge for 1 year before joining the SCJ

And there have been others that were not judges.

And there are other indicators of judicial world view. More difficult but provided indication of their views.

[karynnj]

28. I don't think pointing to Thomas makes your point

A supreme court justice does not even have to be a lawyer. What would bother me in addition to the lack of the BEST experience here, this is not a position for "triangulators". Both Clintons have some ethics problems that are more important here.

HRC is doing a good job, as have many other Democrats in the past when they lost. Bill Clinton is doing a good job with his foundation. If Obama's goal is to heal the riffs, putting WJC on the SC is not a smart way to do it.

What would be your response if there were constant posts suggesting John Kerry, who actually won the nomination handily in 2004 or Russ Feingold, Carl Levin, or Pat Leahy, among the people given the most credit as constitutional lawyers? Would you back any or all of them?

[LiberalFighter]

34. Levin. Leahy 20 years yes

Feingold yes but biased considering former classmate from high school.

[karynnj]

46. You went to high school with Senator Feingold?

That is cool.

[jmowreader]

93. I got that from Molly Ivins

In a column she wrote between Clinton's 1992 election and 1993 inauguration, she wrote that Clinton had "taught constitutional law at Georgetown, which is about as good a preparation as you can get for this job."

[martymar64]

103. I would like to see Bill as Sec of State

He still has great respect out in the world at large and he would be a great asset running our diplomatic team and working to restore our prestige as a nation.
As for Hillary, somebody upthread stated that she could be the successor to Ted Kennedy as the guiding light in the Senate. With that, I agree.

[NewJeffCT]

78. I like both Bill & Hillary - but -

they're both a bit old for the Supreme Court, and Bill has had health problems. Republicans appoint 'em around 50 years old so they can be on the court for 30-40 years... Tony Scalia is "only" 72 years old and has already been corrupting the court for over 20 years. Clarence Thomas is "only" 60 years old and has already been on the court for 17 years - he could easily be on the court for another 20-25 years!

Hillary would be 61 and Bill 62 next year.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Especially if she replaces Scalia

Roberts *1955 Age in 8 years: 61

Stevens *1920 Age in 8 years: 96
Scalia *1936 Age in 8 years: 80
Kennedy *1936 Age in 8 years: 80
Souter *1939 Age in 8 years: 77
Thomas *1948 Age in 8 years: 68
Ginsburg *1933 Age in 8 years: 83
Breyer *1938 Age in 8 years: 78
Alito *1950 Age in 8 years: 66

Obama with 2 terms could replace up to 5 with any luck. Maybe 6 if one or two retire earlier with thought a younger justice replace them and prevent a future scumbag from appointing a nutcase.


O'Connor retired when she was 76
Rehnquist died when he was 81
Powell retired when he was 80 died 11 years later
Blackmun retired when he was 86 died 5 years later
Burger retired when he was 79 died 9 years later

Last Justice to die in office before Rehnquist was Frederick M Vinson in 1953 at age 63

[NewJeffCT]

79. I see Scalia bitterly holding out as long as possible

if there is a Democratic president... he'd have to die in office for Obama to be able to replace him.

[LiberalFighter]

80. Let him... He is probably not in that good of health.

[meowomon]

94. I agree

He looks like he's one pastrami sandwich away from a heart attack.

[davekriss]

27. I was thinking she'd make a wondeful SCOTUS on...

...her own merits, but yes this would royally piss off the whole Republican Party. I'd LOVE to see her made SCOTUS!

[aquart]

39. And yet I find it insulting.

It ends her political career and usefulness forever.

Thank you for nothing, but New York still finds her worthy of our vote.

[Taverner]

44. I dunno - I think she earned a job for life where she can use her talent

[stevedeshazer]

50. I agree

I don't even think she would want to be on the Supreme Court, but that won't stop those who harbor such thoughts.

I'd much rather have her as a Senator, maybe one day Majority Leader.

[Wetzelbill]

87. yeah because being on the Supreme Court

Is so demeaning and has no worthiness at all. Nothing to it, in fact, I just suggested it because I secretly hate Hillary's guts and want to get her out of my hair by putting her on the Supreme Court, where she could shape things for the next 20 years and leave a lasting legacy. Honestly where do people get this stuff?

[Taverner]

43. I would be ALL for that!

That way the GOP would have Hillary in their face for the rest of her life!!!

[Honeycombe8]

70. What do you think the qualifications are for that? What exactly does the job involve, do you think?

Give us a rundown of what you think the job is? I work in the legal field. I know a few things about that job. Just interested in what YOU think it is, and what the qualifications are.

[Wetzelbill]

86. why the tone?

[w4rma]

77. Rather than piss people off, politicize the SCOTUS and take her out of the Senate. . .

Lets just hope she stays in the U.S. Senate for a very long time where she can do some good.

[Cronus Protagonist]

90. BILL for SCOTUS!!

Hillary's still got a presidency to check out.

[democracy1st]

11. I just donated to HillaryClinton.com...here's the link

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

[Honeycombe8]

72. For her senate run? nt

[democracy1st]

95. yes I've noticed that she's been on the trail and the media has yet to cover

her speech's more thn 10-15sec. I've counted at least 5 events so far.

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[Window]

13. Thank you Hillary! K/R.

:kick:

[ohio2007]

14. SNL

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1da_1221396659

If you don't have a sense of humor, don't go there.

[LiberalFighter]

25. I wish that Hillary had hit that Palin with the podium. That would had been fun.

Looked like that Hillary was pointing with her head to that Palin to indicate she was the lipstick.

[wordpix]

84. bwahahaha, Tina Fey has Palin down pat---what a fun new season on SNL

:rofl:

[martymar64]

104. Fey and Poehler make a great comedy team

They continue the tradition started by Belushi and Ackroyd, Farley and Spade.

I love them both!

[yellowdogdemocrat2]

15. I'm proud to see HC step up to the plate

I was not a supporter of Hillary, I supported Obama. And at times I really got angry with her and Bill, thank goodness they are both very good democrats. I just wish all her followers was. She's a dream compaired to Palin. I wouldn't mind seeing her on the Supreme Court either. Can you imagine what Palin would say about her if that ever come up. Right now Palin is all sweetness on Hillary, because she is courting Hillary supporters. Wake up ladies! Palin is a wolf in sheeps clothing. If "BEAUTY and the BEAST" gets in office, womens right to choose will be gone.

[Chovexani]

91. Demonizing Clinton voters and calling us morons

There's some unity right there.

The vast majority of us are, in fact, on board in spite of crap ass, patronizing posts like yours.

[xchrom]

16. senator clinton rocks

:yourock: :woohoo: :yourock:

[Imagevision]

83. K&R!

[barbtries]

17. she's gained back a lot of my respect

respect she had lost during the primaries. politics is a bumpy ride.

[Honeycombe8]

73. I'm w/you on that one. nt

[Ishoutandscream2]

18. We need Hillary, and more importantly, imo, the Big Dawg

Bill is a helluva campaigner. I know there are those here at DU who are upset with him, but we need him on the campaign trail. He knows how to win, and he can get our message across. Still the best president in my lifetime, but I'm waiting for Obama to claim that role.

[DevonRex]

19. Go Hillary!!!! Thank you. nt

[blm]

22. Typical Joan Vennochi BS - exaggerating, as usual. FYI Joan, HRC supported Bush doctrine of

pre-emptive war. And Clintons should be APPLAUDED and DEIFIED for showing any sign of support for Dem nominee, after Democrats busted their ASSES and in some cases their own political careers, in their efforts to defend Clintons for so many years?

Vennochi is a Romney adoring knownothing looking ahead to 2012.

[Clintonista2]

35. How does it feel

to be so irrelevent?

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[blm]

42. Bull. Just because YOU swallowed the corporate newsmedia Kool-Aid doesn't mean

all of us Dems are going to follow suit.

I don't think Dem party NEEDS Clintons as their saviors any more than the Republican party NEEDED the Bushes - but the corporate media chose to play up that narrative the last twenty years, and those fools who take the corporate media at their word are NOT opinionators I take seriously.

[Captain Hilts]

48. NO, Clinton did NOT support the Bush Doctrine.

Read her statement on the IWR. She explicitly says it is NOT a vote to invade Iraq OR to remove Saddam Hussein.

How difficult is that to understand?

[paulk]

52. it's pretty difficult, obviously

afterall, the poster in question has been pushing this line exclusively for how many years now?

Four?

[progressivebydesign]

29. That's the Hillary I love!! She walks her talk, and she knows how imporant this is.

A damn fine woman, she runs circles around that pretender-to-the-throne from Wasilla. Hillary shows her how it's done.

[heliarc]

31. This is good news...

Unfortunately, whenever she tells people to vote for Obama, I can't get the image of her saying that McCain was more qualified out of my head... I think that that press conference was the most damaging of the campaign... and the damage wasn't against Obama... it damaged our party.

Right on Hillary. Keep it up.

[Jennicut]

33. I have so much respect for Hillary now its not funny

I really really enjoyed SNL last night, it made Hill look so intelligent. I do think she and Barack would not have made great governing partners in the White House but I do like her role as spokeswoman for the party and supporter of Obama. This campaign has made her stronger and right now her likability must be increasing (I never liked her until recently). She has really really grown on me. I loved it at the DNC when she stopped the role call...what a dramatic moment. Palin pales in comparison to the real impact she made on the primaries. Real women candidates (not floozies like Palin) now have to be taken seriously. Hillary, keep going strong and remain a strong voice in the Senate for all of us.

[kmdemqueen]

36. She is fighter

I am glad she is not bitter about losing. I do wish Obama chose her for V.P. But thats ok. Maybe after this election it will be the begining of the end for repulicans.

[wryter2000]

38. Awesome

That's the Hillary I love.

[marions ghost]

49. atonement

is always good to see. While Hillary isn't a paragon of virtue, she's a serious cut above the Palin anyway.

Maybe the deal is that she campaigns for him and she gets some percentage to pay her debts?

[Captain Hilts]

53. Perhaps she's a good Democrat and noticed her and Obama's views/voting records...

are nearly identical.

[marions ghost]

54. I'm sorry

but after the behavior of the Clintons during the primary I'd say their team loyalty stems mainly from what they can get out of supporting the team.

But it's good to keep these kind of people on your side in the cut throat game of politics that we have in this country. So I'm glad she's working for Obama even if it's really just working for herself. I don't see that she has much choice.

Hillary Clinton's motives are far from pure, is all I'm saying. This is politics, y'know. After what I've seen I don't see it as simply as "she's a good Democrat..." There has to be ahigher bar than that.

[StevieM]

56. I thought their behavior was just fine...better then Obama's. The claim of an unusually negative

campaign will be laughed out of the history books.

Steve

[marions ghost]

59. What history books?

not where I get my information...

Their campaign was gutter politics at it's finest. Those who saw it, know it.

[StevieM]

60. I saw it and I saw it quite differently (eom)

[marions ghost]

65. OK

all I can say is you might allow for different interpretations sometimes. We all get disappointed by our candidates. I was an Edwards supporter at first--now he's turned out to be the same kind of dumb
as Hillary's hubby. And Obama isn't some kind of god (although after the Bushites we do need a savior).

Objectivity. She's not wonder woman. She deserves criticism for her desperate campaign tactics. Ask your black friends what they really think of the Clintons now.

Atonement is good. She'll feel better and so will everybody else.

[LanternWaste]

101. The same win-at-all-cost politics it appears

"Their campaign was gutter politics at it's finest."

The same win-at-all-cost politics it appears that is being trumpeted on DU as the only "real" strategy for Sen. Obama to choose for a successful election.

[indimuse]

64. Wrong!!!

TWISTED...

[marions ghost]

66. Why's it twisted

to suggest that Hillary needs to mend some fences? Working your political capital for somebody other than yourself is always character building. OK she had bad advisers and stuff, but she should have tried to overcome that. She gave the presidential attempt a good shot, but because of her campaign's tactics, she will never run for president again. Mark my words.

[polmaven]

68. The accusation of

racism is what is twisted. What she and Bill said and did was so twisted out of anything recognizable and so out of context and proportion. Than is want is twisted. Neither President nor Senator Clinton is racist. the accusation is a lie perpetrated in several different quarters.

[marions ghost]

100. Bill and Hillary

are not racist, but they certainly don't have a very good instinct for what people of other races are sensitive to. They seem to be "tone deaf" as some have described it (more charitably than accusing them of racism). That was apparent during their campaign. Her managers obviously thought it OK to play the race card to solidify her constituency of voters who are racist. LOOK at her strategists and advisers. They started with the "not electable" theme--remember that ?:

"Now, in order to convince superdelegates to buck the will of the majority of Democratic primary voters, Hillary Clinton is arguing that she's the more "electable" candidate, and some of her surrogates are suggesting that Obama is not "electable" against John McCain. But just what is it about Hillary that makes her more "electable" than Barack? From reading the Clinton campaign's material, you'd never know it has anything to do with her race. Instead, they talk in euphemisms and codes. In a memo titled "HRC Strongest Against McCain," Clinton strategist Harold Ickes points to her superior polling in "swing states" and among "swing voting blocs" like "Catholics," as well as Obama's rising "unfavorables." Departed advisor Mark Penn has said that the working class is "a critical vote" that superdelegates should consider because "these are voters who in the past have gone either way in the general election."

Even if Hillary didn't initiate this, it was done in her name. Desperation increased as they saw Obama edging her out. If you want to argue that the "Lo-Info" voters for Hillary are NOT racist, go ahead and try.

Ask some of your politically aware black friends about this. They know sly maneuvers exploiting racism when they see them.

:shrug:

[polmaven]

102. Oh, I see...

everything said about Senator Obama, by anyone connected with the Clinton campaign, or, for that matter, by any of her supporters, which pointed out any negative to his electability or which criticized his campaign, was "euphemisms and codes" and/or "sly maneuvers exploiting racism".

Anything said negatively about Senator Clinton, however, was, I imagine, simply pointing out facts.

I see...I've got it now!

Listen....Of COURSE there are racists out there. Just as there are sexists out there. Every negative word said about an African American politician, however, is NOT racist code, nor is every negative word said about a female politician sexist.

Pointing out that one candidate is polling higher among certain groups may simply mean that the candidate is polling higher among certain groups. Now, I will agree that the group of voters may be racist, or sexist, but pointing it out is called campaigning....NOT racism or sexism.

I actually HAVE discussed this with "politically aware" African American friends, and we agree on it. Hillary Clinton did NOT run a racist campaign, any more than Senator Obama ran, OR IS NOW RUNNING a sexist campaign.....which he is, of course being accused of doing by the Palin camp.

There was, I think, a LOT of sexism in the way the media covered Hillary, but that is NOT Senator Obama's doing, and I know of no one blaming HIM personally for it. Senator Clinton, conversely has NO blame for the perception of her campaign being racially dominated.

[StevieM]

55. Hillary is not seeking "atonement." Sorry, but you're self-righteous narrative has been publically

rejected and ridiculed. Hillary hasn't issued anything close to an apology for alleged wrong-doings (nor should she). Obama heaped praise on her campaign, as have all Democrats. She is wanted on the campaign trail by her fellow Democrats. Your version of history in which Hillary is a disgraced figure as a result of her primary tactics, who must now strive to atone for her sins and regain the voters' trust and respect, is a total joke. It is laughed at in political circles, where Hillary finished her campaign in very high standing, a standing that has only increased since then.

The reason why Clinton-haters were so upset by her prominent role at the Convention, along with the roll call, is because it made total light of--and virtually mocked--their beloved narrative of Hillary having shamed herself and fallen from the party's, and most people's, good graces. Instead she was treated like a mega-star who had risen to new heights of excellence in her campaign and who our party is lucky to have on our side. No atonement was needed, or sought, then or now.

Steve

[marions ghost]

58. Whoa there

1. I never said Hillary publicly seeks atonement...it is my perspective. I'm talking about PERSONAL atonement, not public. However she does need to regain the respect of some of her constituency.
2. I never said she is not wanted on the campaign trail. I'm sure she is most welcome.
3. I'm not afraid of being laughed at. There's always the gap between what some people see and what
others see.
4. Fine with me for Hill to have a face-saving moment at the Convention. Obama needs her voters and she needs to use her considerable political power wisely. I have no problem with that.
5. Being "treated like a megastar" tells me nothing about a person or candidate's value (eg. Sarah
Palin?)
6. I'm not now and never have been, a Clinton hater. Disappointed yes, full of hate, no.

Go pounce on somebody else who doesn't jive with your pet narrative.

[StevieM]

63. OK....you're right, I didn't have to "pounce." But as for a "face-saving moment"....again, I don't

think it is accurate to describe it as such. They generally don't give prime-time speaking slots to people so they can save face. Hillary earned her speaking-slot and, as I expected, she used it to try to help Barack.

I"m sorry you were/are disappointed with Hillary Clinton. Personally, I have never been more proud of her, and I am proud of myself for having supported her. And I was plenty disappointed in Barack....but I am learning to like him.

Steve

[marions ghost]

67. OK truce

The way I see it Hillary was promoted from the outset and had everything going for her. But she took some bad advice and not the least of it appears to have been from her husband. They were guilty of desperation moves when Obama came on strong. They obviously didn't imagine she'd have a serious challenger and they weren't prepared for that. The situation now requires adjustment and it's good to see Hillary adjusting and urging her supporters to do so. That's all I'm saying. I have friends who supported Hillary and I understand & respect their (your) reasons for doing so. But it's not good to whitewash any candidate, no matter how desperate we are to see them win. We'll never have any real integrity in politics again if we do.

I sincerely hope you and other Hill supporters will find enough to like about Obama by November. The alternative is pretty scary.

[Chovexani]

92. Thanks, Steve.

:thumbsup:

[Triana]

51. Awesome. Give 'em HELL Hillary!

:woohoo:

[Captain Hilts]

81. Given 'em Hell Hill!

FDR: And two kicks for us!
ER: You go, girl!

[Psephos]

57. Of course this has nothing to do with her own self interests after witnessing the rise of Palin

Nothing at all...

[Honeycombe8]

74. There's a time for cynicism. I'm thinkin' now is not that time. Having said that....

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Obama has made a deal with the Clintons for something, after he wins, if the Clintons campaign hard on his behalf. A cabinet position?

[nam78_two]

62. Very nice

Yay Hillary! :)

[Imagevision]

76. Hillary to help Obama landslide McPalin... excellant!

[and-justice-for-all]

82. Kick her ass HRC! nt

[eridani]

88. She has turned out to be a really outstanding team player

If she wants to be senator for life, I say go for it. Or maybe Secretary of Education, or Health and Human Services? She may very well wind up having more of a longterm impact than Bill.

[Bo]

97. Obama is an Idiot for NOT Choosing Hillary

I still can't believe his stupidity.... :-(

[Curtland1015]

98. Hey, hey, hey... wait a second...

Running as a black man is a hard enough sell! You want him to run on the black man/woman ticket?

Us Dems would love it, but that ain't gonna fly with a lot of the fence sitting douche bags out there.

Not to mention, it's not like there wasn't any bad blood between Obama and Clinton. A lot of harsh things were said between camps that would have been exploited to DEATH by the McCain camp and the right wing media.

[Raine]

105. THANK YOU Hillary...

Gotta to love her! :loveya: :hug:

[TankLV]

106. As usual, Hillary shows CLASS...way to go Hillary...

but I've come to expect it from her and him and have never been disappointed...