Poll of polls: Dead heat in Ohio battleground

[Nambe]

Source: CNN

It all came down to Ohio in the last presidential election. 2008 could be a sequel.

A new CNN poll of polls of the latest surveys in Ohio suggest the race for the state and its crucial 20 electoral votes is a dead heat.

Republican presidential nominee John McCain is the choice of 46 percent of Ohio likely voters, one point ahead of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, according to the poll compiled Monday morning. Nine percent of those questioned are undecided. ...

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/poll-of-polls-dead-heat-in-ohio-battleground/

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I hope Ohio actually counts the votes this time.

[gaiilonfong]

1. there is more hope this time because the CRIMINAL Blackwell is gone

that crook Ken Blackwell was responsible for suppressing the vote (especially African American) in the last election, but he is out so there is hope

[timeoutofjoint]

25. I had not thought of that. thanks

[DeadManInc]

2. We have a democrat secretary of state this time. I hope wen do

not have any problems this year

http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/view/page/0

[Benhurst]

4. As I understand it, anyone with just a few minutes access to

the voting machines can corrupt the computer voting machines and/or tabulators and fix the election.

What about New Mexico? Weren't there a lot of problems there in 2004? And in some of the other states as well. They are caging the votes on a massive scale across the country. Why should we assume we're not headed for the third stolen presidential election in a row? And why didn't our "leaders," including Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and Obama address this once we regained control of Congress?

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. democratic = adjective

democrat = noun

Just sayin'...

[Extend a Hand]

3. in spite of gop caging

we are out talking to 'undecided voters' every day. We do have a democratic Sec. of State this year so that is promising. Unfortunately one of Blackwell and the legislative repubs last gifts to us was a law that kicks voters off the roles if they haven't voted in 4 years. So if the last time someone voted was the '04 presidential election, they've been removed and have to re-register.

[AngryOldDem]

5. Questions for you:

Have you encountered any Bubbas? If so, how do handle them -- if at all?

What is your feel of the race as a whole where you are? Here in my particular part of Ohio, the support for McCain is breathtaking -- I would say much, much higher than for Bush in 2004. And I find that to be absolutely amazing, puzzling, and disconcerting, given the ecomomic tank we're in.

Just curious.

[Kolesar]

22. I have only seen one McCain bumpersticker here in the Cleveland area

I live in the wealthy eastern suburbs, too. The Lake County office has four full time, paid staff instead of the one man we had in 2004. This time, the Dems have a machine to match the big red gop machine.

[awoke_in_2003]

6. So hard to believe...

I grew up in a Cleveland suburb, Brook Park. Every one I knew either worked at the chevy plant or the ford plant. Strong, blue collar, union workers. Good people, and such a melting pot. It is sad that carrying Cleveland no longer guarantees a victory in Ohio.

[maseman]

10. Cleveland doesn't represent Ohio

I grew up in blue Akron and now libe in mixed red/blue Canton. But if you go 10 miles south of Canton it is redneck blue all the way down to the Ohio River and west to Cincy. Plus CIncy cancels out Cleveland. It is like Kentucky.

[wowimthere]

8. Another poll that is a LIE! Do not believe these polls. If a media is attached it's a LIE!

[Benhurst]

11. And they wouldn't bother to lie unless they were getting ready to

steal the election.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

14. BBC poll sounds much more realistic: 49% for Obama, 12% McCheney

Too bad they polled people in OTHER countries.... we need non-corrupt poll takers to poll US residents.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm

[Pattib]

26. Agree...remember 2004, exit polling had Kerry winning? WTF happened?

I am sick of these thieves though.

[peabody71]

9. Plus they've already set the stage to steal it again!!!

You watch Ohio goes for Mccain despite huge turnout for Obama.
We are kidding ourselves.

[bluestateguy]

12. Stealing Ohio will be much harder for them this time

We've got Jennifer Brunner, Governor Strickland and the Attorney General this time. They have the courts and the legislature, but in any event, the infrastructure that they had in place in 2004 to manipulate the election is much weaker this year.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

13. in what way(s)? What have they done to prevent another e-vote steal?

probably not much more than has been done in any other state :(

[bluestateguy]

15. Here's a start

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080913/pl_politico/13415

But I'm sure you'll find something else to wring your hands about.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

17. Excuse me? You think Diebold, et al, did not have anything to do with the OH election steal?

You think vote caging / disenfranchisement were the only ways the 2004 election was stolen in Ohio? Don't insult me with that hand wringing crap. Or are you just in the mood to shoot the messenger?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

28. Been thinking...

Taking away people's hope is a sin in my book, and here I have done it myself. I hope with all my heart that they won't get away with another steal. Ohio is much better prepared this time, as we all are, and having gotten rid of people like Blackwell is going to help immensely. Good luck to you and to all of us.

[The Stranger]

16. What the fuck is wrong with Ohio? I don't get it.

[HughBeaumont]

21. Too many racists, uneducated dickheads, perma-townies and rapture-readys.

Most all of them are located in the "Red Sea" (the amoebic red glob surrounding Franklin and Athens counties and stopped by the blue Eastern and Northern border counties). These people don't care that their jobs are leaving the state in droves. All they want is for a daddy to tell them "everything is and is going to be all right." and that daddy better be a white Republican male.

Even in the bluest area in the state (NE Ohio) there are more than several thousand whitey nutjobs that don't care about what happened in the past 8 years; they just believe things will be much much worse under a Democrat. That's some Moibus logic for you.

So Republicans on ALL levels of government drove Ohio to become the weeded-up parking lot that it is and the logical thing to do . . . is vote for another neo-con, ultra-free-trader such as McCain so it can (by his own admission; remember "Some of the jobs aren't coming back, my friends") continue.

SiIIIIIIIIIGH . . .

I share the same opinion on another thread: if for WHATEVER reason people vote The Maverick & Palin Circus in 2008, I'll cease voting, cease caring and laugh as people lose their jobs and health care. If 8 straight months of job losses doesn't teach ANYONE a lesson on how lousy Repukes are at running everything, then FUCK them. They truly are stupid enough to get and deserve whatever is coming to them.

[hasssan1]

24. You my Friend , said exactly my point word by word

All those value voters get fucked by republicans day after day for free and still keep voting for them, because gay marriage , abortion and prayer is more important than their job , health care , food for their families , gas and sending their love one to war to get killed for NO FUCKING REASON.


so i say if you don't give a fuck about yourself and your family , fuck you and you deserve what ever you get.

[amborin]

18. instead of shooting

the messenger and denying poll results, we just need to work harder

choosing palin was pure rovian strategy and it's energized the base and attracted lot of
indies and undies also

we need to work that much harder

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

19. Again....

....instead of wringing our hands, we need to get people REGISTERED! We can't win if we can't get people to the voting booths. We can still win this, ya'll!!!!!

[fjc]

20. Excuse me, but didn't McSame have a lead last week?

[hasssan1]

23. Obama needs to show up more in rural OH and spend more money there and hit McCain on

economy and IRAQ WAR more. Must keep repeating this message that Mcsame is the same shit as bush and look what happened to our country . republicans bankrupt this country.


FRAME THE MESSAGE AND REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER.

[Doctor_J]

27. Send Bill & Hil also

they're still HUGE in the Rust Belt. Edit: Bill can still take credit for rescuing the country for Poppy Smirk's debacle.