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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:17 PM
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Palin's lawyer: Monegan fired for 'rogue mentality'
Source: Anchorage Daily News

Walt Monegan lost his job as public safety commissioner because he resisted Gov. Sarah Palin's budget policies and ultimately showed "outright insubordination," say papers the governor's lawyer filed today with the state Personnel Board.

The filing includes a slew of e-mails from top Palin aides, including one from her budget director, Karen Rehfeld, saying she was "stunned and amazed" that Monegan appeared to be working with a state legislator to seek funding for a project Palin had previously vetoed.

It was Monegan's "rogue mentality" on budgeting and other policy issues that got him fired in July, not his alleged refusal to dismiss a state trooper who was involved in a messy divorce with the governor's sister, the filing says.

The papers were filed in support of the governor's request that the Personnel Board drop an ethics complaint Palin herself lodged requesting an investigation into whether she fired Monegan because of the family feud.

The filing includes a July 17, 2007, e-mail Palin sent to Monegan in which Palin complains that a proposal to restrict gun sales to people who make death threats would still allow her former brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten, to carry a gun, despite the Palin family allegation that Wooten once threatened to kill the governor's father.



Read more: http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/527218.html
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:19 PM
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1. Is there proof about the tazer incident?
Or just the testimony of Todd?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:24 PM
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4. Wooten admitted it though said the kid asked to be tased
to see what it was like and that the taser was on a training setting. Anyone here knowledgeable about taser settings?
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stonenots Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:33 PM
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8. The taser was a training tool...
...the barbs on the taser wires are replaced by little clips so that you can feel the effects of the taser without being "tased". I've had one used on me during a training session and it is akin to quickly touching an electric fence.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:44 PM
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14. Would that be like the electric shock we've probably all gotten
touching like finger to electric outlet/socket in house?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:26 PM
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6. You mean the allegation that Wooten tasered his son? I think he admitted he did it.
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 10:29 PM by yardwork
He said that his son asked him to do it so that he, the son, could see what it was like.

Note that Wooten, Palin's former brother-in-law, is not the person who was fired. Monegan was fired by Governor Palin. He says it was retaliation for refusing to fire Wooten. Nobody has accused Monegan of tasering anyone.

Edit - spelling
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:22 PM
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2. Is there a lot of difference between being a "rogue" and being a "maverick"?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:26 PM
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12. One is a thought criminal, the other is creative?
lol
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:22 PM
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3. This is great... keep her busy with this news. Everything Palin should be about her troubles, not
about her new Miss Bullshit Queen position.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:26 PM
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5. You mean he was a "maverick?"
Isn't that interesting.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:28 PM
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7. Does this mean that Sarah Palin wanted to BAN GUNS? Take a look at this sentence:
The filing includes a July 17, 2007, e-mail Palin sent to Monegan in which Palin complains that a proposal to restrict gun sales to people who make death threats would still allow her former brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten, to carry a gun, despite the Palin family allegation that Wooten once threatened to kill the governor's father.

Should we be mentioning that as governor, Sarah Palin attempted to BAN GUNS?!!!
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:40 PM
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9. "Monegan fired for 'rogue mentality'"
Lawyer speak -- drag the complainant's reputation through the mud, that's the ticket. This is why most rapes are never reported. Who would want to go through this? The ones who actually come forward are the brave ones, the one to be respected.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 10:48 PM
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10. Rachel Maddow just had Monegan on her show
Palin's lawyer is lying like his client.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:25 PM
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11. I wonder what Palin wanted cut from the budget?
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:28 PM
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13. If there is nothing
To hide then why doesn't Palin cooperate with them?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:47 PM
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15. this is the kind of bullshit they used to chase the secretary of state out of office in CA when he
caught them rigging voting machines red-handed.

Suddenly all the papers said he had a horrible anger problem and terrorized his staff and therefore must be removed from office.

Eventually, he resigned but somehow, no one had been hurt enough by his horrible anger to file criminal charges or even sue him.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:25 AM
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16. Who what when where why....
Good job RamboLiberal. Yet more is needed.
Palin is a key.
if McCain is elected people should genuinely fear he will die in office.

but "troopergate" will never get officially investigated before the election
no jury will hear it, no official report will issue. No testimony under oath will
be provided. yet its up to the public to examine it in time. Repkes want to play
obstruct and delay. so its up to us to crank up the volume.

Palin issues include hypocrisy, repulsive philosophy, abuse of office, an abusive
executive style, lawlessness, ignorance, incompetence, lying to the public, and
associated cover up and CYA.

get facts supporting each of these points. a fact may support more than one point.
remember that one lie often covers another until you have a "tissue of lies" which
can be unraveled. every statement made is significant.

Palin's apparent abusive executive style is particularly concerning, if she has an abusive
style at work there is a possibility she (and/or her husband) is physically/psychologically
abusive at home. this is concerning. any evidence? she has reportedly left people high and
dry. thats suggests more. get it fast before they read this and crank up Murdoch's spin machine.
careful, though, remember the kids are NOT the issue, but Sarah and Todd Palin ARE.

the lawyers statements provide a legal argument that doesn't seem to wash with available
facts. its typical of an after the fact, concocted defense offered in wrongful discharge cases
(and unless very well supported and free from taint of malice they rarely work in the end),
they are offered purely for delay and cosmetic and settlement value, in this case intended to
get the issue through the election cycle. the defense strategy is also about fixing taxpayers with
the bill rather than the official. in this case, the defense seems so weak, it surely must be a
joke, that is, unsupported. what is the evidence? where is the rest of the evidence.
where are ALL the emails!

So document what is obvious in an organized way. That is how you discern truth and unravel lies.
And if no facts are available, who's fault is that? Yell "obstruction"!

Repuke lies are rampant. Even Rove is afraid. Time to f* these people up before they do it to us.
So stick in a new pacemaker battery, boys and girls, your kids and grandkinds are counting on you
and Red states still need to be turned Blue or Obama will lose the vote that matters, the
ELECTORAL VOTE.

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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:36 PM
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17. Is anybody paying attention to this?
First, how is the McCain campaign able to release administration emails when the administration itself refuses to release emails that have been requested by both the press and the public?

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/test_0


By WESLEY LOY
wloy@adn.com

Published: September 16th, 2008 12:36 AM
Last Modified: September 16th, 2008 01:47 AM

Walt Monegan lost his job as public safety director because he resisted Gov. Sarah Palin's budget policies and showed "outright insubordination," say papers the governor's lawyer filed Monday with the state Personnel Board.

The filing includes a July 17, 2007, e-mail Palin sent to Monegan :eyes:

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/527346.html
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 07:02 PM
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18. Throwing Everything At The Wall To See What Might Stick?
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