Palin linked electoral success to prayer of Kenyan witchhunter

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Times Online

The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.

At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.

In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: “As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”

“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”

She then adds: “So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church,” before the presiding pastor comments on the “prophetic power” of the event.



Read more: http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html

---

And they mocked Rev. Wright! Palin is the one who attends a whacky church! Check out the video - want to solve cocaine problem - pray! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvxWl7jXr0&feature=related


Pastor Thomas Muthee

[Orrex]

1. What? You WANT Kenyan women running around casting demonic spells?

What the hell is wrong with you?!?!?

[Solly Mack]

2. She needs a padded cell

and so do her friends

and I'm not being the least bit snarky

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Hell, you ought to see...

What happens to the mentally ill when the A of G gets its claws into them. We have had their "outreach" to the mentally ill around here. It creates quite the mess and it's hard to clean up after it.

[Solly Mack]

5. Sounds horrid

That's beyond tragic...what you said about the A of G and the mentally ill. The idea that religion can help the mentally ill...just boggles the mind.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

13. Oh yeah.

Complete with casting out of demons and mental health consumers stopping the taking of meds, because "they don't need them anymore".

There is one A of G church just over the mountain from me that was very...errm..."aggressive" with their MH outreach. Finally, several MH service providers, some doctors and a cop or two had to "open a dialogue" with them and advise them of the error of their ways. They eventually backed off.

[AlbertCat]

33. The idea that religion can help the mentally ill...

The idea that religion can help with anything boggles my mind.

Magic and superstition.
Ignorance, guilt and fear.

Oh yeah....and a smidgen of hope....for things impossible.

[Quantess]

42. I would guess that religion would tend to drive the mentally ill off the deep end.

[uppityperson]

3. oh my word. thank you for the post. k&r

[tpsbmam]

6. Scotty, beam me up.

There's not enough intelligent life left on earth for survival.

[hamsterjill]

48. Can I go, too???!!!

n/t

[Fridays Child]

7. I hope Keith picks this story up.

[crossroads]

9. Me Too! nt

[Kind of Blue]

11. Me to. It would be great to find Mama Jane

and get her side of the story. This is really explosive. It reveals the heart of Palin's wacko belief system.

[RamboLiberal]

17. So would I

Muthee chose a local woman named Mama Jane who happened to work as a fortune teller. Mama Jane had never caused much trouble before, but she was an important target for Muthee, because she was a close associate of town’s leaders. Muthee accused Mama Jane of being a sorceress - a witch who was engaging in spiritual warfare to curse to town of Kiambu.

Muthee’s proof of Mama Jane’s witchcraft? There had been three car accidents in the neighborhood of the clinic where Mama Jane worked. That, said Muthee, was sure evidence that Mamma Jane was a witch. So, Muthee got the local population in a panic, and sent three police officers into Mamma Jane’s. They fired their guns, killing one of Mama Jane’s pets.

Then, they arrested Mama Jane and threw her into jail. Muthee made his demand: “Mama Jane either gets saved and serves the Lord or she leaves town!”

When Mama Jane was finally released from jail, she fled town, fearing for her life.

This is the kind of activity that the Wasilla Assembly of God praises when it says of Muthee, “He has established and pastors hundreds of churches in Kenya.” Typical of those who use witch hunts as instruments of power, Muthee is a bully and a thug.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/09/15/sarah-palin-and-the-thomas-muthee-witch-hunt/

[The Night Owl]

29. A recent example of what happened in Kenya when superstitious fears were stirred...

A recent report of a violent “witch hunt” in a Kenyan town where one of Thomas Muthee's assemblies is located...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/21/world/main4114504.shtml?source=RSSattr=World_4114504

A list of the WoFC assemblies in Kenya...

http://www.wofchurchke.org/regions.php

Considering that Kenya, like many places in Africa, is frequently a place where violence is done to people suspected of practicing witchcraft, one would think that the WoFC website would have a statement condemning that sort of thing… but no such condemnation exists on the WoFC website. What can be found on the WoFC website is a page about the church's Bible school which offers classes in Spiritual Warfare and Deliverance...

CURRICULUM

Courses offered include:

Children and Youth Ministry.
The Local Church.
Gifts and Fruits of the Holy Spirit.
OT & NT Survey.
Spiritual Warfare and Deliverance.
Leadership Development.
Contemporary trends in ministry.
Preparation for Ministry.
Introduction to Christian Counselling.
Church Management and Administration.
Church Planting & Growth.
Ministerial Ethics.
Prophetic Ministry.
Relationships.
Pastoral Counselling & Care.
Sermon Preparation & Delivery.
Etc.

Spiritual Warfare and Deliverance?

[AlbertCat]

34. I wonder...

...Will Sarah allow spectral evidence in the Gitmo "trials"?

[zbdent]

8. owa ... tanass ... eyeam ...

repeat, speeding up as you go ...

[superconnected]

10. Not a good Christian - did you guys get her point- "lord make a way" and not "lord do it if it's

your will". Shes stressing that make a way was better than letting her do it if it's God's will.

I can't think of any church I've belonged to - all liberal - that would have thought that was okay.

[RamboLiberal]

12. That's why her reply to Charlie that she was channeling Lincoln

when she said our war with Iraq was God's will was BS.

[AlbertCat]

35. Besides....

Lincoln is a mid 19th century president. The Civil War was 1861-1865. Hoop skirts and corsets, frock coats and stove-pipe hats. Lincoln was a great man.... but he was a 19th century man.

Would it be too much to ask for a 21st century cabinet and VP?

[ann_american2004]

19. YUP SUPERCONNECTED

I have been thinking the same thing ever since I first heard that, Not, "If it be your will Lord." but actually demanding it of God. As I said in another thread, that isnt how God works. God doesnt take orders, and to pray in that way - demanding God-- allows other lower forces to enter in, like Satan or lower realm demigods, if we look at it Biblically or even mythologically. Jesus was not swayed by promises of earthly things like power and wealth. He refused the devil when Satan offered him the world. But this preacher and his 'disciple' are just begging for it - even to the point of thinking they can order 'God'. I highly doubt it's God that's answering their 'prayers'. They're self-righteous and nasty.

If you listen to the audio of her saying it -'make a way, make a way, Lord'- her voice is freaking creepy as hell. Like she is possessed.

[RamboLiberal]

20. Imagine if this was Obama in his church saying this

He'd have been drummed out the race by now!

Amazing how the looney toons white fundies can get away with this and be running for the 2nd highest office in the land.

Damn you John McCain!

[frylock]

14. dear lord jesus christ, save me from your followers..

bat. shit. crazy.

[happygoluckytoyou]

15. "i wuz talkin to my kids... willow... sapian... moon unit... squiggly... and fred.....

[Mari3333]

16. sarah on the front lines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erthun0Pauc

[Gwendolyn]

18. Stoning women is the best way to get rid of crime!

Call any woman you don't like a witch, get the villagers after her with torches and pitchforks, and have yourself a good old-fashioned stoning. B-)

Sarah Palin, taking us into the future in a bold new way!

[chat_noir]

21. Video of her saying that...

Sarah Palin's Churches and The Third Wave

http://www.vimeo.com/1679097

[The Night Owl]

22. The "witch fighter" whose incantations Governor Palin believes got her elected returns to Wasilla...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7083212&mesg_id=7083212

[The Night Owl]

23. Pictures of Ed Kalnins with Thomas Muthee...

Gallery: http://account.churchwebworks.com/acct/10799-0940/tmpl/tm211_gallery_viewer.php?get_album_id=23

Ed Kalnins and Thomas Muthee posing with books donated from Morningstar Ministries, the crazy cult featured in the movie Jesus Camp...

http://account.churchwebworks.com/acct/10799-0940/tmpl/gallery_show_picture.php?pictureid=173

[DeadManInc]

24. LMFAO! You can't make shit up this good.

[progressivebydesign]

25. Will the American media pick this up?? This would freak the hell out of most voters!

scared the hell out of me!! We cannot have a religiously insane person in the White House. At least Bush was a fake..

[The Night Owl]

26. Contact Olbermann and Maddow. {EOM}

[crossroads]

50. Yeah... Bush is a Counterfiet Christian! nt

[Dystopian]

27. I knew about the demons....

I thought it originated with a 'spiritual prayer fest' to cast out demons in the town. I was not aware that it began with a witch hunt against one woman. This is like a horror movie...
I'm freaking out....:scared:



peace~

[The Night Owl]

28. A Ted Haggard connection and information linking Thomas Muthee to Joel's Army...

http://www.cephasministry.com/joels_army_otis_wagner_background%20to%20the%20people%20involved.html

[kath]

30. Yet another article that will only appear in the BRITISH press, never over here.

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. We have experience with Witchsmeller Pursuivants

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/one_witchsmeller.shtml

[The Night Owl]

31. Gawker: One Thing You Didn't Know About Sarah Palin

From Gawker.com...

One Thing You Didn't Know About Sarah Palin

The Palin story? It was basically the only thing the press covered this month, up until now. But it's peaked, right? The Columbia Journalism Review hopes so! The Associated Press all but declares the end of silly season, thanks to WALL STREET CHAOS. Hooray! No more fucking Palin stories. Except, of course, that now Katie Couric is interviewing her for a sexism-off, she's making an almost-joint appearance with Hillary Clinton, and People keeps telling us things we didn't know about her (not the juicy things, either, but stuff like "she's against waxing" ). But People misses something very important about Sarah Palin that we did not know! Her involvement with an insane witch-hunting Kenyan pastor. You heard that one yet?

...

Muthee founded the Word of Faith Church, you see. That is apparently the same thing as "The Prayer Cave," which he launched in his native Kiambu, Kenya, in 1989, in order to chase out that "spirit of witchcraft resting all over the place," according to Muthee.

Turns out the "spirit of witchcraft" was a local lady who had a pet snake.

...

Then a couple later Pastor Muthee preached ten sermons at Sarah Palin's church and personally anointed her the new governor of Alaska and eventual Princess of Fairy Heaven, and she bragged about this, in public, as if it wasn't insane. The End.

...

http://gawker.com/5050781/one-thing-you-didnt-know-about-sarah-palin

Drip, drip, drip.

[swag]

32. She is more mixed up than a dog's dinner.

God, what a fucking weirdo.

[daleo]

36. She can be the head witch sniffer of the Republic

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-zrzMhU_4m-g/shes_a_witch/

Palin's new stump speech:

"What burns? Wood. When you put wood in water, it ... floats. What else floats ... a duck. So, if she is no heavier than a duck, she must be a witch!"

[The Night Owl]

37. A funny post on Free Republic...

From Free Republic...

To: ovrtaxt
Amen, amen and amen

She is on many prayer list and the Assembly of God people know who to do spiritual warfare.

9 posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 9:41:36 PM by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2077799/posts

Idiots.

[The Night Owl]

38. ATTENTION: Drudge Report has picked up the Muthee story...

This may be one of those rare times when clicking over to Drudge Report is in our interest...

PAPER: Sarah Palin and the links to a Kenyan witch-hunter...

http://drudgereport.com

It's on!

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. Of course Palin is keen on this - they killed the pet python!

Says the Monitor, “Muthee held a crusade that “brought about 200 people to Christ”.” They set up round-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor “the demonic influence – the ‘principality’ over Kiambu –was broken”, and Mama Jane fled the town.

According to accounts of the witchhunt circulated on evangelical websites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Pastor Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python which they believed to be a demon.

After Mama Jane was questioned by police – and released – she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.

Pastor Muthee has frequently referred to this witchhunt in his sermons as an example of the power of “spiritual warfare”. In October 2005, he delivered ten sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church’s website until it was removed around the time Mrs Palin’s candidacy was announced. The blog Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.

So, it's a literal witch-hunt, with the inevitable 'townspeople' baying for blood (take your pick from Frankenstein 'pitchforks and torches', or Monty Python 'burn her - she's a witch! She turn my nose into a carrot!' imagery), the deliberate killing of an innocent pet, and an innocent woman hounded by police and populace until she has to flee. And this is the kind of person Palin looks to for spiritual guidance.

I bet she'd have posed for a picture with the dead python, if she'd been there.

[dtotire]

46. Any links to the Monitor? n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

49. Here's the CSM bit:

Their research into the community revealed that a woman called "Mama Jane" ran a "divination clinic" frequented by the town's most powerful people.

After months of prayer, Muthee held a crusade that "brought about 200 people to Christ." Their church in the basement of a grocery store was dubbed "The Prayer Cave," as members set up round-the-clock intercession. Mama Jane counterattacked, he says, but eventually "the demonic influence - the 'principality' over Kiambu - was broken," and she left town.

http://www.csmonitor.com/1999/0923/p15s1.html

The bit about shooting the snake comes from those claiming the woman was a witch:

The addition of armor bearers to the strategy of intercession brought about the liberation of Kiambu. Muthee issued the challenge: "Mama Jane either gets saved and serves the Lord or she leaves town!" Many of Mama Jane's clients began to become Christians and burned their charms and fetishes in public. The public was suddenly enlightened to what was happening and began to suspect it was more than coincidence that Mama Jane's Emmanuel Clinic was near the site of the mysterious auto accidents. When a subsequent accident claimed the lives of three children, public outrage led to police involvement. They visited Mama Jane, saw that she had a huge python in one of her rooms, and shot the snake. They took Mama Jane in for questioning and then released her. She decided to pack up and leave town.

http://www.prayerlinksministries.com/Question3.htm

Or World Net Daily (I'm sorry I'm linking to such crappy websites, but these are the claims these nutters make themselves):

Their first priority was to figure out what on earth was the source of the trouble. After six months of research and prayer, it became obvious that it wasn't economics or politics, but a person – one oversized, 40-something woman named Mama Jane.

She was a witch. Forget pointy hats and broomsticks, she was the real thing. I'll concede that the majority of "witches" are cranks and dabblers who possess no special powers at all. But in dark places worldwide, there are millions of exceptions, and she was one. Typically, witchcraft is evidence of evil, but there it was the source of evil.
...
A few days later, it happened. After yet another "accident" at the clinic (three teenagers killed), the townsfolk rioted. "Stone her!" they cried. The police were called and barged into the clinic. Just past the reception room, they were startled to find themselves face to fang with a huge python. They pulled their revolvers and blew it to smithereens.

Mama Jane's powers evaporated along with that snake. A few days later, she left town, and everything changed. In the next four years, there was not a single accident. (See the "Transformations I" video.)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45024

[Snazzy]

41. alright, cmon, they did this on purpose

It just gets wackier and wackier.

How best to keep everybody off of issues and what a pathetic sob McCain is, eh?

But wtf to do about all the blogs and forums like this focused everyday on new Palin BS?

I am convinced this stuff isn't entirely accidental per GOP. LBN and GD, what % of posts are the latest Palin disclosures? It's Hugh!

Arg.

Meanwhile % addressing issues or Mccain proper? Miniscule.

Tracking the incredibly short sighted choice of Palin, sure we gotta. But you knew from the announcement of her there it was a trap, didn't ya? Us superheroes gotta turn that around already and get people talking about our candidate and solutions, not whatever weird fucking Alaska revelation du jour.

[The Night Owl]

43. Considering that any strength the McCain ticket has comes from Governor Palin...

...being on the ticket, we would be wise to expose Palin for the religious crackpot she is. For cyring out loud, Palin has been linked to an exorcist/witch hunter. We would be stupid not to use this.

[Quantess]

47. Hey, American Public:

You liked the drama about Obama's preacher? Then you'll LOVE this!

[The Night Owl]

51. Exactly. If our candidates have to stand in the court of public opinion for...

...their religious affiliations then so should Republican candidates.

[tomg]

44. In Palin's universe

we don't need the Constitution as long as we have the Malleus Maleficarum.

For a good look at the Supreme Court with McCain and Palin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

[The Night Owl]

45. Daily Mail picks up the Muthee story...

From Daily Mail...

Palin under fire over African pastor friend who waged witch-hunt against woman he believed caused car crashes

By Paul Thompson
Last updated at 4:39 PM on 17th September 2008

Vice presidential pick Sarah Palin is known for her strident views on religion and the power of prayer.

But her credibility is once again being questioned after an African pastor she credits with helping her political career was revealed to have waged a witch-hunt against a woman who was said to cause car crashes with her "demonic spells."

In June Palin, 44, told how a visiting pastor from Kenya had foretold she was destined for greater things.

...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1057181/Palin-African-pastor-friend-waged-witch-hunt-woman-believed-caused-car-crashes.html