Exclusive: New Doubts Over Palin's Troopergate Claims

[RamboLiberal]

Source: ABC News

An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin's most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into "Troopergate."

"The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin's legal filing. "Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.," the release stated.

But the governor's staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.

The document, a state travel authorization form, shows that Palin's chief of staff, Mike Nizich, approved Monegan's trip to Washington D.C. "to attend meeting with Senator Murkowski." The date next to Nizich's signature reads June 18.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

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The document: http://abcnews.go.com/images/Blotter/TA.pdf

Ooops - caught lying again! Now they will claim Nizich signed in wrong place - note it was for out-of-country, not out-of-state. Maybe they consider D.C. out-of-country!

[eFriendly]

1. It's very easy to tell when McPalin is lying...

their lips are moving.

[LiberalFighter]

2. Do her lips have lipstick on them?

[bleever]

3. Alaska: Where sexual predators are protected, and wolves are shot from planes.

A little too long to fit on a license plate.

[krkaufman]

18. Funny (to me)... as I read that, Garrison Keillor's voice took over.

Lake Woebedone, Alaska.

[bleever]

91. Lake Woebedone.

That's nail-on-the-head funny.

[Plucketeer]

89. How about...

Alaska - where wolves are shot, but rapists are not!

[pnwmom]

4. Exclusive: New Doubts over Palin's Troopergate Claims

Source: ABC News

An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin's most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief Walt Monegan, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into "Troopergate."

Fighting back against allegations she may have fired her then-Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan, for refusing to go along with a personal vendetta, Palin on Monday argued in a legal filing that she fired Monegan because he had a "rogue mentality" and was bucking her administration's directives.

"The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin's legal filing. "Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.," the release stated. But the governor's staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.

Read more: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

[grannie4peace]

5. go, brian ross!!!!

[bjobotts]

43. Palin is so easy to see hrough that those clapping must not care what she does.

They don't care about the good of the country just blindly supporting the republican.

"Vote republican...It's so much easier than thinking"

[Gman]

63. Exactly... they do not care at all.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. Appears to contradict?

No, it directly contradicts the "explanation."

Eta: And it corroborates Monegan's statement that he kept the Governor's office in the loop.

[krkaufman]

20. Yeah, I loathe how they mince words in such obvious cases. n/t

[Lorien]

7. So, the "last straw" came when he tried to DO HIS JOB??

Palin and Co., deranged sociopaths all!

[libodem]

8. spot on

[qwlauren35]

10. Yeah, that was my immediate thought.

She canned him for WHAT????

So, asking for federal funds to address a forcible rape "epidemic" in Alaska is not in line with the wishes of the Palin administration???

That's disgusting.

[Lakerstan]

17. Me too

That's even worse than lying about a document, in my opinion.

Why wouldn't you want funding for an anti-sexual abuse program in the state that has the most rape?


DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

[krkaufman]

22. Well, if you're so anti-abortion that you don't support it in the cases ...

... of rape or incest, I'm not sure her true motivations would ever make sense.

[Historic NY]

44. McFailen must be the Tex Antoine of governor's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Antoine

[krkaufman]

45. wow. that's harsh.

On November 24, 1976, his weather spot came up just after a report of a violent rape of a five year old girl. Tex thereupon quipped: "With rape so predominant in the news lately, it is well to remember the words of Confucius: 'If rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it.'"

[texastoast]

85. clayton williams said that to a group of reporters

when he was running for governor against Ann Richards. Because of that remark, even Texas voted her in by over 100,000 votes. She made serious hay with that remark. Sounds like the people of Alaska need to get mad like we did 15 years ago.

Confucius was very anti-woman. You'd think people would have progressed just a little bit from that evil, predatory mentality. God, we can be so primitive.

[hedgehog]

105. I doubt very much that Confucius ever said any such thing!

[TexasEditor]

73. How about Antoine 'Tex' O'Hara?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancin%27_Homer

[summer borealis]

61. Welcome to religious wacko world

No doubt something in all this has birth control messaging ... wouldn't want that, would we Gov. Emptyhead?

[awoke_in_2003]

67. Because it forces you to admit

that your state has a real problem. Republicans don't admit to problems, they cover them up.

[krkaufman]

21. I think that was the angle Rachel Maddow covered on Thursday's show

The coverup lie is MUCH worse than what they're trying to defend against. At least in the original framing, they could have said they were unhappy that a trooper like Wooten was allowed to continue on the job. But their latest excuse is that they were against Monegan's efforts to fight sexual abuse in the state. Wow.

Palin is truly a show-motion political train wreck.

[NBachers]

29. Palin Express

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n03a7cLf0M

[glinda]

31. There is something very

perverse about this. I mean, is it possible that she hates women maybe? The abortion thing makes a little sense but I think she is perverted and hates women. Jealous. Maybe when she lost the Beauty Pageant it pissed her off and she cracked.

[superconnected]

53. Yes, she hates women. It's a self loathing thing.

[Pharlo]

94. Personally, I say, if you're going to wonder about her motives in a public

forum, keep SPIN in mind.

It's not 'Is she against women?"

It SHOULD be 'I wonder who she's trying to protect? Todd? Track? Another family member?"

Because, she could be trying to protect someone just as easily as she's against women.

And, it's no different than the Repug speculation on any Democrat.

[Enthusiast]

107. Good ol' boy with a pussy. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

69. "Palin is truly a show-motion political train wreck"

And like all train wrecks, you know it is going to be horrible, you know you shouldn't watch, but you just cannot look away.

[krkaufman]

75. That's exactly right, and what I've said to a few friends.

You're glued to the Internet to substitute for the research and reporting on Palin that the corporate media isn't doing, and your knowledge convinces you that the train wreck is imminent -- if the media would just report on her background -- and you want to be there to wallow in the schadenfreude when it all comes crashing down.

[tabasco]

30. LOL!

Looks that way.

[wordpix]

74. do his job protecting women, who Palin purports to represent! Asshat

[buffynjody]

101. Of course they don't want public employees to do their jobs:

One of the republican's greatest fears is that the voting public will see that government can be effective and beneficial.

[Piewhacket]

9. Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

but who could possibly have seen that coming?

I mean, what are the odds that
a BIG FAT LIAR
will tell BIG FAT LIES
all without even BLINKING!!!!

(actually I predicted it, or pretty close,
i even have an idea what happens next)

but what I really want to know just now is
where oh where oh where is it?
the contrition? the shame? where?

WHERE IS IT SARAH, WHERE IS YOUR SHAME?

watchin for it!
:popcorn:

[snake in the grass]

52. It doesn't matter,

because she believes in Jesus.

[notaboutus]

96. BELIEVE!

Just for you.
King James Version
Matthew:15-17
15:Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16:You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorn or figs of thistles?
17:Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Point - Not every one who says they are a believer is a christian.
Matthew:21-23
21:Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22:Many will say to me in that day Lord, Lord have we not prophesied and cast out devils in thy name? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23:And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Point - We can believe in Jesus but does Jesus know us? Not all people that believe in him are for him nor do they obey his word.

[snake in the grass]

112. I like Matthew 6:6...

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

Those are the type of believers I can respect. Palin is truly dangerous.

[thecrow]

11. Sarah Moose, the gift that keeps on giving.

She is like an albatross around McCain's neck.
His lies are the millstone.

This is PRICELESS!!

[ejpoeta]

60. well that's what happens when you don't vet your people.

and of course, meeting someone once.... just think of how he'll run the white house!

[hay rick]

12. Correct form.

The trip is out-of-country if you're a member of AIP.

[krkaufman]

23. Chuckle. That's what I was thinking, too. Good one. n/t

[Bette Noir]

13. The lengths to which she goes to protect rapists

make me wonder about her husband.

[NoQuarter]

54. Bette,

I have tried, and tried, and tried, and tried to not go there. But there you went, and I'm right behind you.

Todd. Is. Creepy.

[Blue Gardener]

79. Glad I'm not the only one

There is something creepy about that guy.

[ayak9]

81. Very creepy dude.

I saw him yesterday pawing Bristol, or was it the other daughter, on teevee. If Todd is Trig's father, then who's the mother? Alaska is not only first in the nation in rape, but also the incest capitol of Amerikka.

[Barrett808]

90. Bristol raped by daddy? Now there's a Rove-style whisper campaign for ya...

And a good ad slogan: Why does Sarah Palin protect rapists?

[myrna minx]

14. Oh, this just makes me sick. n/t

[sellitman]

15. Lying must be one of the Republican values they keep yapping about.

She is very adept at it already.

Who said she has no experience?

[krkaufman]

16. "forcible rape"...??? Am I missing something; is there another kind? n/t

[TaranAlvein]

35. Well...

There's also Statutory Rape. Even if both parties consent, if the person is underage, you go to jail. In my eyes, while you CAN make a case for statutory rape laws, to me it's really a bullshit charge for the sole reason that it frequently seems to land kids in trouble. The age of consent for girls is very often higher than the age of consent for boys. So even if both are of the same age, if the girl is underage, the boy will get charged with statutory rape if it ever becomes known that they had sex, which is completely ridiculous as the whole purpose of that law is supposed to be to shield minors from adults, not punish boys for deciding to have consensual sex with their girlfriends, who just so happen to be underage, even though they're around the same age.

Sorry for the off-topic rant, but while neither I nor anybody I know has ever been subjected to such injustice, the blatant double-standard just really pisses me off.

[nankerphelge]

19. Wow...

Of the dumb lies they've told, that one is especially dumb

[usregimechange]

24. New Doubts Over Palin's Troopergate Claims

Source: ABC News

An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin's most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into "Troopergate."

Fighting back against allegations she may have fired her then-Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan, for refusing to go along with a personal vendetta, Palin on Monday argued in a legal filing that she fired Monegan because he had a "rogue mentality" and was bucking her administration's directives.

"The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin's legal filing. "Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.," the release stated.

But the governor's staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.

The document, a state travel authorization form, shows that Palin's chief of staff, Mike Nizich, approved Monegan's trip to Washington, D.C., "to attend meeting with Senator Murkowski." The date next to Nizich's signature reads June 18.

Read more: http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=5844710

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Boom!

[msongs]

25. a flat out lie is NOT a doubt nt

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

26. K&R

[cosmicone]

27. Dupe n/t

[struggle4progress]

28. Lie la lie! Lie la lie lie lie lie lie! Lie la lie! Lie la lie lie lie lie lie! La la lie lie lie!

[hay rick]

32. Simon and Garfunkel?

Or am I hearing things?

[struggle4progress]

49. eh yup

[cui bono]

33. What a good extreme Christian she is.

:eyes:

[scarface2004]

34. thanks but no thanks!

that should be her answer to all questions from now on. just say thanks but no thanks you effing asshole!! and would you get your dickhead husband out the picture already...i can tell by looking at him that he s a stupid effing asshole too!!!

[lonestarnot]

36. And I second that emoticon! Assholes and liars! No wonder they pay dividends for people to stay in

Alaska. :toast:

[mwb970]

106. What is with her husband anyway?

He seems to be co-Governor or something even though he was never elected and didn't even finish high school. (Apparently nobody in Alaska does. Sarah herself had to go to six colleges before she managed to get a degree! What's with that?)

I physically recoiled the first time I saw the Todd. He looks like a sleazy con man who is about to cheat you out of something. He seems like the kind of guy who would have a tattoo. I wonder what/where it is?

[LaStrega]

37. "Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape."

Ergo would lead the nation in women forced to bring to full term a resulting pregnancy if McPalin were to be the veep.

:puke:

I'm glad ABC ran with this. I wonder if it'll be on teevee.

k&r

ON EDIT: If you read the comments (I only perused a few) 99.9% (of what I read) are sternly anti-McPalin.

[Imagevision]

38. Palin is sounding like a joke you've already heard, over & over again..

[Witchy_Dem]

39. I'm going out on a limb here. It's not just women...

it's the NATIVE population up here that suffers the worst when it comes to rape and violence. I'm guessing it's a racial issue that's really in the underlying motive.

[Lochloosa]

58. I think your right.

[subterranean]

40. Oh, the irony...

According to the article:

"Palin on Monday argued in a legal filing that she fired Monegan because he had a "rogue mentality" and was bucking her administration's directives."

In other words...she fired him for being A MAVERICK!

[tblue]

42. Ooh. Good!. So we can we start calling her a rogue governor?

[IndianaGreen]

41. The Payton Place Palin's support the sexual abuse of children

as clearly McCain now does.

[LaPera]

46. Do like the republicans have done for years - keep the pressure on, keep the BS story alive, piss

them off, use it to your advantage, force them to change the news stories away from the obvious, take the campaign to where you want to take it.. the stories, network headlines, sound bites, You Tube, the controlled fluff! Kick ass!

But....Dems don't know how to (or don't want to) fight against these ugly lying, greedy, hateful republican corporate insects.....You got to fucking fight them!

Must be nice, though...Finally, Obama is now making his points, still gently doing so, and, getting bolder at it each day....but....NOT ENOUGH!!

You've got to know or learn how to go in for the kill.

Republicans are masters at it.

[bronco214]

47. rovian politics

Does anyone recall that JFK specifically put people on his
cabinets that had different opinions than he did so that he
could look at the big picture before making a decision. Now,
we have white and black and if you ain't fer me yer agin me.
Fn bstds.

[LaPera]

48. I think George W Bush followed JFKs same sound philosophy....

Maybe not........................!

The installed puppet, unfortunately, for all of us Bush also had the devil, Dick Cheney, evil, wicked...as is Karl Rove & Grover Norquist, there should only be one republican ideological thought for power & money, as the isolated goal, corporatism, imperialism and fascism, (all the same) - or take to the highway!

No other opinions wanted or allowed.

[texastoast]

87. see my post above about ann richards and clayton williams

and please note that obama has enough fodder to last well past the election. you don't use all your powder at once in september. he knows exactly what he is doing.

are you working at headquarters question mark

that would be a good place for your energy.

[GreenTea]

97. You're living in a dream world!!

[texastoast]

113. How so, specifically? n/t

[Raschel]

50. $$$ Hockey Arena but not Rape kits or Education?

Someone help me here. Is dipstick claiming that she told Moneggan not to go? She didn't want federal funds for an anti sexual violence campaign?

If so, is she proud of this?

And as for the rape kit charges - my gosh, this woman is horrible! Alaska LEADS THE NATION IN REPORTED FORCIBLE RAPE and she wants the victims to pay?

I can just hear her discussing the budget, "ya know Charlie, these medical costs fer rape exams are jest gettin' to be too much for our budget."

[TaffyMoon]

51. She isn't learning is she.

She seems to think if she just lies enough times, it will all work for her. Sigh, I have really come to hate this woman, and I don't like hating people.

[jeff30997]

55. Your pic makes a great pair with this one:

:scared:

[medicswife]

77. Holy cow! I've never seen that picture before.

:scared: It's fabulous. Who is the artist, do you know? I'd like to see more of his or her work.

[jeff30997]

80. The artist is Alex Ross.

Check his site:

http://www.alexrossart.com/artforsale.asp?sc=ARPB3

[ptolle]

86. why learn?

why would she feel she has to learn? She is after all only following the wingnut republican playbook.Lie your ass off then cover that with an even larger lie while the barbecue-besotted media coughs politely into their hands and averts their eyes.They've gotten away with this sort of behavior for so long they think it's a state of being.A truly well functioning press in this country would have rightfully savaged this poseur long ago and we'd be done with her and likely jetjock johnny mcinane as well.

[The Woodpecker]

56. They just lie as if it doesn't matter anymore

What is wrong with these Republicans?

I have never seen a campaign run like this before.

Dishonorable doesn't even begin to convey what they are anymore.

[muriel_volestrangler]

57. I'm trying to get this straight in my mind:

Palin and her people are now saying that they were OK with Monegan going to Washington, and claiming the expenses; but that trying to get an anti-rape program funded was a sackable offence?

:crazy: :wow:

I've come to expect such a sociopathic policy from her; but I am still amazed they're actually saying that as their defence for her actions. Shit, if I were them, I'd be making up a new lie to cover that up.

[ima_sinnic]

62. no, I think she's saying that she said no to the trip to begin with

that Moneghan was a "rogue" who went anyway.

But then the fact that he did put through the proper paperwork and that it was authorized by one of her staff members shows she's lying.

[JTFrog]

59. Out of Country. AIP must be bigger than I thought. n/t

[pleah]

64. How many lies does that make now? I have lost count.

:shrug:

[xxqqqzme]

71. Keith Olbermann wrote a check

to Alaska Special Olympics for $3700.00 last night (37 lies X $100) and that only counted the lies from September 10th! when he said he would donate $100/lie to charity.

[wordpix]

76. a woman who doesn't support women, a mother of a downs syndrome child who cuts Special Olympics $

Palin is a fundie's dream, no wonder she's so popular with repukes :crazy:

[pleah]

99. Thanks!

:hi: And, good for Keith!

[tanyev]

65. D.C. must be out of country. She can't see it from her front door.

[pjt7]

66. When is the country going to learn

that Palin's replacment for Monegan was fired after 10 day's on the job & had a sexual harrasment claim on his record? Alaska tax payers also had to pay $10K for Palin's replacment mistake~

[Fluffdaddy]

68. I hope something against her finally have legs.

[bobd0]

70. It would but our MSM has the bad habit of placing "teflon" on candidates of their choice

Like that bastard Reagan who should have spent the rest of his life in prison for Iran-Contra alone.

SO far McCain/Palin are getting the same treatment. Instead of reporting the damning facts on these two the MSM runs bullshit stories on anything but the facts to keep American voters from realizing the truth about the Republican candidates.

[sattahipdeep]

72. Palin's husband among those who will be referred for contempt.

By WESLEY LOY
[e-mail]

Published: September 20th, 2008 04:04 AM
Last Modified: September 20th, 2008 04:57 AM


The Anchorage Democratic senator heading the legislative investigation, Hollis French, said the snubs won't stop the inquiry into whether the governor abused her powers by pressuring an ex-Cabinet member to fire a state trooper involved in a rough divorce from her sister.

After waiting half an hour to see if any witnesses would show up, French, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, said legislative investigator Steve Branchflower will proceed with his investigation and will finish his report as scheduled on Oct. 10.

He listed three witnesses who had complied with the committee's subpoenas, and said seven others -- all state employees in the Palin administration -- had not yet been served but soon will be because they failed to appear voluntarily to testify Friday.

Three others -- Todd Palin, the governor's deputy chief of staff, Randy Ruaro, and aide Ivy Frye -- will be referred to the full Senate for contempt for failing to comply with their subpoenas, French said.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/531785.html


....
Responding to Elton's assertion the attorney general broke a deal for seven state employees to cooperate without the need to serve subpoenas, Colberg wrote the employees were in a jam: They could voluntarily comply with the subpoenas, or they could side with their boss, Palin, who has said she'll cooperate only with a separate investigation the state Personnel Board is conducting.

Elton pointedly challenged Colberg on how he figures complying with a subpoena is voluntary.

"I hope you are not asserting that being a loyal employee subject to the supervision of the governor is of equal weight to the constitution or the rule of law," Elton wrote.

[Joanne98]

78. OMG! What is she, some kind of pro-rape woman?

[progressivebydesign]

84. McCain/Palin's new motto: MEN FIRST!!! n/t

[ryanmuegge]

82. There are no doubts. She's guilty as hell, and it's obvious to everybody.

Why else wouldn't she cooperate?

[progressivebydesign]

83. Palin's religious beliefs must have something to do with her pathological aversion to rape victims.

Seriously. There can be no other reason that she seems to averse to helping rape victims, or fund ways to stop rapes. I'm not clear about her exact relgious tracts, but they seem to be in play here. I have never seen a woman so anti-woman before. In many extremist fundamentalist congregations, men are considred so elevated above women that physical and sexual violence is blamed on the women, and a husband is given complete power over his wife. This could also be why Palin has her husband skulking around all the time.. the shadow governor.. because in her religious beliefs a woman can NEVER be in charge of men.

Do you recall when that fundamentalist christian school refused to play another school because a FEMALE COACH was heading the other team of boys? They do not believe that a woman should have any power over men. I guarantee that's why Todd is so ass-deep in the government there, it's probably common knowledge in her church that he is really in charge.

And it just blows me away that Alaska, rape capitol of America, has a governor that does everything in her power to make sure it stays that way. What an awful place for women!!!

[Erda]

88. Remember what happened to Bernard Kerik?

He enjoyed the national limelight at first. But then, the vetting process and public scrutiny began -- followed by accusations of wrongdoing and indictments. If he hadn't reached beyond his level of competence he would have maintained his level of power in New York City. The Palin nomination could turn out the same way.

[bleever]

92. That's a good comparison.

Palin is the "Bernie Kerik VP pick".

[Bake]

93. Looks like Olbermann owes another $100 charitable contribution!

:rofl:

He pops $100 to special needs children for every lie Palin tells.

Bake

[Cresent City Kid]

95. Let me get this straight

Doesn't being against anti-rape make you FOR rape?
Isn't being pro-rape worse than what you're trying to cover up?
Even my most anti-republican paranoid conspiracy theories didn't imagine anything this bad.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

98. PBS Poll - Is Sarah Palin qualified to be V.P.

http://www.pbs. org/now/polls/ poll-435. html

52% YES

45% NO

2% DON'T KNOW

[Erda]

100. It might be good for all of us to vote in this poll.

It's still open for voting. I cannot believe people think she is qualified.

[Barrett808]

103. Done. 52% Yes, 45% No, 1% Not Sure

Yes 52%
No 45%
Not Sure 1%


:(

[Liberalynn]

109. 46/51

Just voted

[fascisthunter]

102. Your Link is Broken

here it is: http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

[Enthusiast]

108. Thanks, did it. nt

[Divine Discontent]

104. I don't think its open.. .it's still 52%, and I'm sure many of us have went to lower it at least 1%

she's terrifyingly anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-environment, anti-science (global warming disbelief), anti-America (secession)


MORE AT www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[Liberalynn]

110. It just let me vote

its 46/51 now.

[Divine Discontent]

111. yay! alright eom