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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:58 AM
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Dismissed employees beat CEO to death (India)
Source: Times of India

22 Sep 2008, 1524 hrs IST,PTI

NOIDA: The Chief Executive Officer of a company was on Monday beaten to death by a group of dismissed employees inside office premises after a meeting called to resolve dispute between them and the management failed. ( Watch )

L K Chaudhury, the CEO of Gradiano in Udyog Vihar of Greater Noida, was killed when the agitating workers turned violent and beat him up, Senior Superintendent of Police (Noida) R K Chaturvedi said. ( Watch )

As the clash erupted, Chaturvedi said, a security guard opened fire in air.

About 20 people were injured in the clash. Chaudhury was rushed to Kailash hospital where he was declared brought dead.

There were about 200 former employees inside the premises when the incident took place.

They were dismissed two months back for some reasons and were since then protesting against it.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Dismissed_employees_beat_CEO_to_death/articleshow/3513395.cms
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:11 AM
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1. Damn.
:(
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:13 AM
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2. The first action in a world that will fight back?
Will this start to be a common event?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:22 AM
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3. My thoughts exactly....
Could this be a sign of things to come?
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:52 AM
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40. In the climate that they have created
just recently, I'd say they best watch their backs. I'm thinking the sheep are getting riled. Those of us aware and awake have been riled!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:32 AM
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4. Damn that's a bad sign
Or maybe not!
:evilgrin:
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:43 AM
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5. Now THAT"S What I 'm Talking About!!!
I see it a positive trend!

there is nothing wrong with republikins & crook CEOs that twice daily water boarding wouldnt cure!

And it does not leave a mark!

8643
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:24 AM
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45. ...
So violence and rioting are good to you?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:44 AM
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6. other people from other countries who have learned to take no
crap lash out, hmmm....sigh......
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:47 AM
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7. Wow...consequences....
what a novel idea....!!!!


although it's unfortunate that the guy died...


but I'd like to see some beatings right here in the US
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:48 AM
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8. Easy there...
Not all CEO's are Bob Nardelli. Some are from very small companies.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:58 AM
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12. Well then, this is what happens in times like this............
........most of these ass holes (90%?) deserve to be in fucking jail, PERIOD!!!! And you know what, maybe if we're lucky you'll see 2 or 3 serve 6 months just to show us all that justice was served. I say, BULLSHIT!!!!!!
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:09 AM
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15. 90% of CEO's?
I'm technically a CEO of 4 people under my corporation. Hope the other 3 don't gang up on me :rofl:. There are millions of CEO's who are nothing like how you describe. You talking about a small group of maybe 2-3%.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:42 AM
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24. Deleted sub-thread
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:53 PM
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57. That's probably true: "You talking about a small group of maybe 2-3%. "
One of the things broken in our greater system or model is how a few can dictate to the rest of us.

"Only a few rise to the top"
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:23 AM
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30. ALL PRIVATE BUSINESS IS EVIL
As far as I am concerned...the people in India had it right, a little more social justice and we might not have a repeat of this shit in another 80 years it seems that we go through this in cycles.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:29 AM
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35. I'm no fan of the mega-corporations, but your post title is beyond stupid
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:30 AM
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36. +1
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:30 AM
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37. [double post]
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:30 AM by jakem
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:58 AM
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41. If it's stupid then why are we in the mess we are in....
greed...that's what business is..greed...let's make as much as we can and it doesn't matter how we do just so long as we do it for ourselves! If you look at other countries (specially Scandinavian and some what other Western European ones) they are much more socialized and they are doing much better than we are right now. Their people are happier, healthier(universal health care) and being transported better(National rail systems) they are also better educated, why, because private business doesn't have such a stranglehold on their office holders.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:17 AM
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42. I totally agree. Some of my posts were "deleted" (censored).
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:43 PM
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69. Greed is not limited to the private sector.
The public sector has problems with corruption and greed as well. Don't delude yourself.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 AM
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9. good lord. doesn't bode well.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 AM
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10. No severance pay, I'll bet.
And no unemployment compensation. And I'll bet they couldn't feed their families. And people get angry, don't they. :shrug:
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:51 AM
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11. I've Been Waiting For This Headline For Years n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:59 AM
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13. Hey, at least they can find jobs in the Indian Mafia.
And if there isn't one, they can start it with 200 people willing to kill for money.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:00 AM
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14. Those disgruntled employees should of studied for a real trade
Many a job i had I've been angry at the boss or employer but found it more satisfying just to leave. Those employers seemed to have missed me more than i missed them. I now have a good decent job with a strong union to back me up. The idea of beating someone to death about a job seems like some very large lunacy to me.
And there i was thinking i was :crazy:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:51 AM
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26. do you know what the unemployment rate is in india?
:eyes:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 01:49 PM
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55. I was kind of posting that tongue and cheek
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 01:50 PM by nolabels
The point i was trying to make is that if you depend on others to support your life then you better find a way to make them depend on you also. The simple fact that they will eventually find a way to deal without you otherwise actually should only be common sense. The idea of revenge is inbred, but logically for most individuals in any most any kind of modern society it is a useless endeavor for helping one's life to go forward.

No i don't know what the unemployment rate is in India but can imagine it is probably not much different than the day-laborers we have hanging all around our town. I feel sorry for them but often their plight is still better than where the left from. Their cheaper labor drives the industry around here but it also makes it harder for our children to find a job.
The answer was for our children to go to college which they are doing. At fifty i have only been unemployed for two weeks in my life. And even then i was trying to be unemployed after i was unexpectedly laid off.

Maybe it's just my perspective or something :shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:25 PM
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:18 AM
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16. And Here I Am Wishing People Would Just Refuse to Work With Incompetents
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 09:18 AM by Crisco
Beating them to death wasn't really on my mind at all.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:19 AM
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17. Appropriate
Bet he wanted his ass kissed plenty when he was boss; since he failed, now he gets his ass kicked.
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:47 AM
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25. Appropriate you say? Death penalty for bad management???
The man is dead. Why do you feel that he deserved to die? Do you have details of his crime
that would allow for the death penalty?
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:17 AM
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43. Don't waste your time
You can't bait me.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:20 AM
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18. In amerika, you won't find a CEO in any meetings with employees inside and office.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:27 AM
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20. good luck finding the CEO at all
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:41 AM
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23. Actually I have worked in small corporations
Where the CEO was around all the time. I rather like the hands-on management style.
I hope we can get to the point where small corporations are much more prevalent and can compete on a level field with multinationals.

Can you say single payer health care?
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:22 AM
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29. Good point about small corporations n/t
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:27 AM
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19. There you go.
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:29 AM
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21. Force, my friends, is violence: the supreme authority from which all other force derives.
Naked force has resolved more issues throughout history than any other factor and the contrary opinion that violence never solves anything is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay.

-- Robert A. Heinlein
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:11 AM
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28. lol...I never thought I'd see a Heinlein quote right next to an MLK quote....
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:12 AM by Blue_Tires
a sad situation all around...we could be seeing another era of disgruntled employees "going postal" like they did in the 90s...
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:37 AM
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22. Wow. Some disgusting responses to this.

There is absolutely no justification for the cheering that is going on in this thread.

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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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34. That's because to them it's all just words, not actual blood, eyeballs, and broken teeth
Hyenas also revel in bloody death. But hyenas have the excuse that they're hyenas.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:35 AM
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38. I am growing tired of the DU armchair revolutionaries.
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:38 AM by jakem
and the communists who are bitching about capitalism and praising Mao from their new 17" Macbook.
and the anarchists who have no clue what they are even railing against.



What happened to the 'liberal' ideal of non-violence?

It is easy to cheer the misfortune of 'bad' people (whatever the fuck that means).

If you want to be a revolutionary, take the high road of non-violence. If you have the guts.

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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:38 AM
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46. You paint with a broad brush chum.
I bet that you believe that there's an objective reality as well.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:49 AM
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48. great. add armchair philosophers to the list.
;)
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:18 PM
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49. And Dennis Miller comedians. n/t
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:57 PM
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54. touche. ill be the comedian. you be the bloodthirsty sheeple.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:17 PM
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63. Nice attack from your hig-horse.
I guess you are better than those bloodthristy Indian folks.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:27 PM
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65. i do not fault the Indians involved. I am not better than someone forced into repulsive acts by lack
of known alternatives.


It is the response on DU that is sickening.




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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:42 PM
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67. Deleted sub-thread
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:30 AM
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71. Where would we be without violent revolution?
Instead of bitching about Bush, we'd be complaining about Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:39 AM
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72. That's true and yet India shook off colonial rule with peaceful revolution,
which would go on to inspire people like Martin Luther King Jr.

Maybe India needs new peaceful revolutionary leaders in the mold of Ghandi.

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:19 PM
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50. Oh yes golly because gee golly the CEOs just have all of our best interests at heart
and so we should never ever never never think about harming them. Oh gosh. That wouldn't be nice and gee, they're working so hard for their $50,000 per minute salaries.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:55 PM
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53. youre right. i am sure you deserve money much more than they do.

my comment was about violence, not salaries.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:59 AM
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27. If you think we have weak safety nets here in this country.....
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:00 AM by AnneD
they are non existent in India. When folks go to work for a company-it is expected to last til retirement. The only safety net is the family, and that (the stability of the family) is starting to change. In many families, the wives stay at home (it really is a case of have to).

By laying off these folks, he was throwing many families into the street...literally. While I don't condone it, I can understand it. India and Indian society is not use to the disposable worker that the New World Order seems to produce.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:41 AM
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39. well stated. i dont condone murder either but i understand frustration
especially the frustration that comes out of not being able to feed your family

the wealth disparity in india is shocking too
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:25 AM
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31. Dead men do no more mischief
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:25 AM
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32. Higher gas prices added with food shortages exacerbated the problem.
When you risk having your family starve to death, then desperation ensues.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:26 AM
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33. Now THAT is class warfare.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:22 AM
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44. Those bosses don't know how to payoff a union leader n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:07 PM
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59. oh that was bad. Funny. but baaad.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:38 AM
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47. Whoah! n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:29 PM
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51. they will increase security here before it catches on. there are probably armed blackwater guards
around gated communities all over the country already.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:21 PM
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56. Ooh you beat me to it...
...growth sector for Blackwater!:puke:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:04 PM
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58. 15 years ago, I worked for an attorney service, and health insurance companies had tightest security
tighter than Justice Department and other federal buildings.

Essentially, I could just get into a lobby and talk to someone through a foot think slab of plexiglass.

Even back then, they already knew how hated they were, and what kind of reaction they deserved from the public.

I imagine these Wall Street parasites take similar precautions.

We just have to hope that they choke on their caviar, or their dominatrix accidentally kills them during their weekly bondage and discipline session.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:37 PM
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52. Wish it would happen here.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:08 PM
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60. That's where we're headed if CEO's remain above the law here
Eventually, when a group of people continue to abuse another group, and the courts and legal system offer no help, the abused group will take their justice into their own hands. It's battered spouse syndrome writ large
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:11 PM
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62. Yep... that's true! nt
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:09 PM
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61. Hard to feel for him without knowing more. I mean maybe he wasn't a crook,
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 03:11 PM by superconnected
it's just that there are so many, I guess it's hard to feel for him.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:36 PM
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66. All those whiney-assed Wall Street CEOs who ran their investment banks
into the ground need to be sent a copy of this article and told to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP OR THERE WILL BE REAL CONSEQUENCES.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:19 PM
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68. You got it!
:thumbsup:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:43 PM
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70. Interesting lack of response from the police.
Sympathy with the folks getting the shit end of the stick, or did a competing company get wind of this and bribe the local police to stay away?

***
Shockingly, despite several Graziano officials phoning up a number of Noida police officials about the violence, only two police constables arrived at the spot after an hour. And, even at 3.30pm, as the unit's security personnel and some other employees shut themselves up in the unit, only about half a dozen Provincial Armed Constabulary personnel were posted outside.

And, there was no officer with them. Which meant that, in case of an emergency, there was nobody there to order any action. And, this was the state of affairs with the district reserve police lines being located half a kilometre away.

Police officers were not available for comment, until 9.45pm, when area superintendent of police, Babu Ram, claimed, "We had sent force within 15 minutes of getting information. Later, we also arrested 63 persons for murder, rioting and other charges. We had even earlier received a note from the Italian Embassy about trouble at Graziano."
***

And some more details:

***
The unit, a 100% subsidiary of Graziano Italy, specializes in making gears and transmission systems for vehicles. It was set up in 1998 and commenced commercial production in 2000.

The roots of the unrest can be traced to three months ago, when the company declared a partial lockout. Some 200 employees were affected. Company sources said 15 staffers were given termination letters while the others were to be taken back.

According to a company employee, "Some workers had been locked out selectively. They had arrived today to negotiate the re-employment terms. But, they were not willing to accept some conditions. And, sat on a dharna outside the main gate. There is a court injunction against these workers coming within 300 meters of the unit. But the police did not arrive when about 200 of them were at the gates, even as a precautionary measure."
***

If they'd been essentially suspended without pay for three months in India, I can understand why they did this. They'd have been very close to starving, if not already there.
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