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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:07 PM
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Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 07:45 PM by BlueJessamine
Source: The New York Sun

WASHINGTON — In the aftermath of two major terrorist attacks on Western targets, America's counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November.

Call it Osama bin Laden's "October surprise." In late August, during the weekend between the Democratic and Republican conventions, America's military and intelligence agencies intercepted a series of messages from Al Qaeda's leadership to intermediate members of the organization asking local cells to be prepared for imminent instructions.

An official familiar with the new intelligence said the message was picked up in multiple settings, from couriers to encrypted electronic communications to other means. "These are generic orders," the source said — a distinction from the more specific intelligence about the location, time, and method of an attack. "It was, 'Be on notice. We may call upon you soon.' It was sent out on many channels."

Also, Yemen's national English-language newspaper is reporting that a spokesman for Yemen's Islamic Jihad, the Qaeda affiliate that claimed credit for last week's American embassy bombing in Sa'naa, is now publicly threatening to attack foreigners and high government officials if American and British diplomats do not leave the country.



Read more: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/spies-warn-that-al-qaeda-aims-for-october-surprise/86326/



September: The pillaging of the U.S.Treasury

October: The October Surprise-Al Qaeda will try to influence the November elections by attempting attacks globally = scare tactics

"Earlier this summer, another McCain campaign official mused in an interview that an attack could benefit his candidate in the polls."



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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:08 PM
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1. Spies, eh? More like Mc*'s campaign
TERRA!! TERRA!! TERRA!!! 9-1-1!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!!! SERIES, GUYZ!!1!!!!!

Duke
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:11 PM
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4. exactly:
"Earlier this summer, another McCain campaign official mused in an interview that an attack could benefit his candidate in the polls."
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:36 PM
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33. More Chalibi
More of the same ilk that led us into Iraq
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:37 AM
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57. Do you mean the * mis-administration is going to ignore ANOTHER attack?
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:09 PM
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2. Gee who does Al Qaeda want to be President.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:25 PM
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13. Exactly. They would prefer the one who will give them attention and money.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:20 PM
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51. Republicans, the ones in bed with Osama's family in Saudi Arabia.
Al Qaeda in full of shit. It is a phony revolutionary organization. A corporate "radical" group bought and paid for by the Saudi Arabia Royals. Their job is to keep the oil flowing and the fascists in power and extremists from joining any group which might kick the Wahhabis out of power.

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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:11 PM
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3. How credible is the NYSun?
Are they like Newsmax?
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:17 PM
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6. They're like NewsMax and WorldNutDaily. . .which is not saying much.
:evilfrown:
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inanna Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:22 PM
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11. The paper is having financial problems too....
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #3
37. they are a tabloid rag. A Murdoch sensationalist rag. n/t
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:50 AM
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58. A political plaything for a group of rich right-wingers.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 AM by philly_bob
On the other hand, it accurately reflects what neocons are talking about. This does make me a little more afraid.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:17 AM
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63. Well, shit, they're very credible if they're the one's making it up and executing the psy ops.
I translate this article as follows:

Yeah, so today, we're putting this out there that Bin Laden is going to do some booga booga stuff. So be expecting a tape soon. We're working on it, but our CG guy's mom had a hip replacement so we're going with this new guy and he's complaining about how the actor doesn't look like Bin Laden at all. We told him that you all bought the Fat Egyptian Bin Laden we rolled out in 2004 and he shouldn't worry. The American people will generally accept any brown guy in white headgear that a news source calls "Bin Laden" as the genuine article.

Anyhoo. So, we're about to bring out a tape and it's going to say "American people. This is a message from Al Qaeda. We demand that you convert to Islam. And also, we demand that you vote for Barack Obama. He is the only man we will bargain with because we trust him as one of our own. What every you do American people! Do not vote for John McCain!!!"

Of course, the contrarian two-year olds will think that Obama put Bin Laden up to promoting him and they won't want to do what Bin Laden says so they'll vote McCain just to spite him. And if they don't we'll just steal the election and tell everyone that "Americans are so stupid they all just did the opposite of what Bin Laden said. Tsk. Tsk." Heck it worked in 2004. It'll work in 2008. Thank god we probably won't need this shit in 2012.

So, yeah, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike." Or something. Now go get hysterical or something.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:12 AM
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70. NY Sun is part of the neocon network that includes Murdoch's Post & Sunday Times (UK)
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 11:14 AM by leveymg
It's worth reading or the same reason that US intel analysts used to read Pravda and other Soviet house organs to try figure out what Stalin's boys were cooking up.

Yes, I think that's a good analogy. B-)





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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:12 PM
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5. Well, this might just prove that
the Republicant's method of a strong national defense doesn't work, and just might help us.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:22 PM
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10. Agreed
If another significant terrorist attack was to occur, it would count as nothing but a massive failure of the BushCo. fascist regime.

That said, I hope it doesn't happen and that this is nothing more than the typical fear-mongering. I wouldn't put it past BushCo. to attempt to turn an attack to their advantage: martial law, suspension of election, etc.

At which time, torches and pitchforks!


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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:32 PM
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16. Have you seen the prices of torches and pitchforks these days?
Couldn't we just sign a hard-hitting online petition instead?
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:36 PM
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18. lol
:thumbsup:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #16
55. Or we could just have
Nancy Pelosi give them a very stern look
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #55
68. What about a major, and I do mean major, leafletting campaign? /nt
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ohioINC Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:45 PM
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23. True Fascists would blame it on the opposition.
The re-pubs will just claim that the democratic congress allowed the attacks to happen.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:19 PM
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7. Crank up the terror machine
It is election season.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #7
61. Yeap! Keep em terrified of their own shadows.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:20 PM
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8. GW Bush is gonna allow another attack on the US? allow another one? nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:20 PM
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9. Why? Are they going to bankrupt a pension fund?
Who gives a shit what they do?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:24 PM
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12. Bullshit - The East is watching the West implode from it's own greed.
.
.
.

Why would they bother??

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:26 PM
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14. Yeah, right,
Whatever "surprise" that might occur will not be due to Al Qaeda.

My you are gullible.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:28 PM
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15. NY Sun sets stage for Republican False Flag black ops
"Softening up the public mind, we call it," said one NYS staffer who refused to be identified on grounds that he'd likely be water boarded before being extraordinarily rended to a "friendly" dictatorship where he could expect to experience far worse treatment. ("Alaska. That's what they threaten us with to make us *really* scared. I'm told the Governor up there guts spies alive. They call it 'field dressing a moose.' Nobody wants to be the moose.")

He went on to explain that an October attack by "al-Qaeda" would be "called in if it looks like our guy needs a little help. We'll know for sure after the after the debates." Probed further, the source revealed that since the Post and other news outlets were only on the "public relations" side of the operation, they didn't, really, know all that much. "We soften 'em up, just like the bombers do before they send in the ground troops. We get the people ready for the idea, and then the generals decide how much of a hit is required to have the desired effect. If it ain't too bad, then they might only need to, you know, release a tape or blow up an embassy. But if he's in real trouble, then they might have to bring out the big guns."

Asked what that might mean, the source's only comment was, "Well, let's just say I wouldn't want to be anywhere near our home office the week before election day. I think a lot of people are gonna be 'on vacation' that week, if you know what I mean."
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:35 PM
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17. The sky is falling!
Better put John McCain in the WH because HE is the only one who can save our asses. We need Rudy as Homeland Security head so he can catch all the bad guys. :scared:
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mercuryblues Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. Oh My!!
Time to raise the terror color coded alert levels to RED.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:37 PM
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19. Oh, Noes!
First these a-holes are "decimated", now they're "planning a big attack". Shyeah, right.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:40 PM
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20. how Convienent. Let me guess this will help McCain.
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:48 PM
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24. bingo!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:37 PM
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42. Don't you know by now
EVERYTHING helps mcbush

If he said he wanted to re-instate the draft and harvest the organs of all healthy people over 60, we'd hear how this helps mcbush
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:43 PM
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21. *Fear* is the way to manipulate voters...
This sounds so Rovelike!

CR
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:56 PM
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25. Proof that Al Qaeda is employed by the terrorists that took over the Republican party?
what possible outcome would Al Qaeda want for the US elections?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:03 PM
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26. What? Do they want some bailout money too?
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Hah!
:rofl:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:16 PM
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28. On cue, as expected. n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:18 PM
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29. here we go again
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 08:19 PM by SemperEadem
along with the NRA saying Obama's going to "take yer gunz from ya...", what's next? The religious reicht saying that Obama's going to come into your home and "take yer bibles and make you memorize the Koran"?

You can almost plant your winter veggies to this shit. It's like clockwork.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:24 PM
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30. What they mean to say is "State Sponsored Terrorism"
It's always the same shit with this bunch!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:29 PM
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31. I really don't see why they'd bother.
This country is already virtually destroyed.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:35 PM
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32. They are so afraid they won't get another Bush administration.
Nobody plays into their hands as well as GW.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:45 PM
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34. In exchange for being let go at Tora Bora
OBL made his imfamous tape the Friday before election day in 2004. The rest of the deal has clearly been that the US would not harm or try to capture OBL for the duration of Bush's "presidency", if not longer. OBL is probably required to make at least one more or several more acts at the behest of the neocons which may be what is being anticipated.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Don't know what "imfamous" means
but I do know OBL made no tape in 2004. Actually he has not made a tape since Devember 26, 2001.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:18 PM
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38. Wrong!
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 09:19 PM by Gman
Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video

or maybe Bush acknowledging that it helped him in 2004: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/280206binladenshelp.htm. John Kerry said it cost him the election.

or maybe Google which has a ton of relevant links... http://www.google.com/search?q=bin+laden+2004+election&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a



Whether or not it really was OBL remains open to debate. The fact of the matter is the video had the intended effect whether it was Karl Rove or Al Queda that released the video to Al Jazeera. I can't imagine Al Jazeera in cahoots with Karl Rove.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Nope
It only remains open for debate if you believe the whistle ass administration.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 08:54 PM
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35. This comes from NY Post. An unreliable source for news.
Of course nearly all the major newspapers are loaded with propaganda. Oh well.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:20 PM
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39. Uh, would these be "wingnut - NeoCon" spies?!1 n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:28 PM
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41. Any bets that we will see a new "OBL tape in October".
We should get a bet running in Vegas on this, because the odds are in favor of it happening.
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biglefthander Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:46 PM
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43. This is simply the prelude...
...to a "false flag" operation carried out by a right-wing black bag group in order to terrify them and send them scurrying to the polls to vote for "daddy" (the GOP).

Of course, al-Qaeda probably wants Republicans in power, since they have been kicking the shit out of us since Bush and Co. took over. In football, the last thing you want is for your rival to fire its shitty coach after you have kicked their asses for seven straight seasons.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:49 PM
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44. *cough* CIA *cough*
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:52 PM
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45. Ah, the fishwrap spreads yet another lie.
That's exactly what the paper is worth - a fishwrap.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:57 PM
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46. "Ok, you've covered your ass"
Now let's do a month-long vacation.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:02 PM
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47. Al Qaeda and the Republican Party
A mutually reinforcing couple that destroys everyone else around them.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:21 PM
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48. That boy cried wolf one too many times, and the only fear is
by MSM besides spreading this propaganda, they are and will be spreading lies about the fears that in reality is no more a fear than having a natural disaster tear some town apart - like a tornado for example.

Not this time people. Don't watch cable news and and if you do, please don't spread their propaganda online and especially here. If I want to see propaganda, I'd tune in myself.

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concerned canadian Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:53 PM
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49. posted previously by no.11
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 11:00 PM by concerned canadian
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:16 PM
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50. I'd be more inclined to believe Al-Busha had an October Surprise in mind.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:24 PM
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52. By now, the world's leftists should have realized that Al Qaeda is a front for Saudi Royals
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 11:24 PM by McCamy Taylor
It is a phony "radical" group whose job is to suck up disaffected Muslims who might join together to kick out the corrupt Saudi Royal family and kick out foreign colonial powers that drain the third world of its oil. Its job is to prevent the peaceful, socialist revolution that will empower the citizens of the oil producing countries to seize control of their own lives.

Al Qaeda is David Rockefeller in a headscarf, toting an automatic weapon. It is a fiction. Sooner or later its members will wise up.

Real revolutionaries are not driven by religion. They are driven by economics.
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:06 AM
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69. Thankyou McCamy
:yourock:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:44 PM
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53. October surprise, sounds like
Osama Booo$h Cheney Ben Laden is cooking up a little fear campaign to help Grampy McSame.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:17 AM
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54. Al Qaeda leader planning for October attacks
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:13 AM
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71. thankyou
for posting the image. Too bad we can't post images above articles, this one would be perfect.

:thumbsup:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:26 AM
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56. Boogitty Boogitty! - Fearmongering time! If anythign DOES happen, Republicans...
...will be behind it. EVEN if al Queda is involved.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:22 AM
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62. I agree
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:50 AM
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59. On whose watch AGAIN???
Looks to me like fighten' them over there so we don't have to fight 'em over here would be proven an epic failure if THAT happened again! It's time to raise the bullshit alert to a level higher than red imo.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:18 AM
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60. Ooh, I am so ascared!!!! NOT !!!
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:08 AM
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64. Well that a good reason to vote Republican - NOT
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:23 AM
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65. Right on schedule.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 05:24 AM by Prisoner_Number_Six
Who here couldn't have predicted this? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? :shrug:
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:29 AM
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66. What does Al Queda want to attack for? We're imploding on ourself.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:01 AM
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67. I'd seriously advise an increase in security
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 06:07 AM by CJCRANE
around the Capitol.

And monitor any overseas phonecalls made by Cheney.

The neocons didn't get the full coup on 9/11 due to United 93 not reaching its target.

ed: sp
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vendredi Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:26 AM
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72. Something will happen
You just know the repugs will pull some sort of October surprise if McCain keeps tanking in the polls, no matter how many American citizens they have to put in body bags to make it happen.
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