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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:51 AM
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Venezuelan president arrives in China
Source: CNN

updated 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Venezuelan president arrives in China

(CNN) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez arrived in Beijing Tuesday to meet with top Chinese officials and to discuss the possibility of buying weapons, state-run media reported.

Chavez is in China for meetings with President Hu Jintao, along with other "relevant state leaders," according to the Xinhua news agency.

Their discussions are expected to include "bilateral relations and issues of mutual concern," Xinhua reported. Venezuela is reportedly working on a deal to purchase Chinese K-8 military training planes.

The nations are also expected to sign cooperation agreements in the areas of "justice, sports, and quality supervision and inspection."



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/09/23/china.chavez.visit/
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:04 AM
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1. Get out the EV, China is buying our oil. They have money.
I would not be surprised if Chavez learns a lot from the Chinese.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:09 AM
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2. Venezuela eyes three refineries in China
Venezuela eyes three refineries in China
By

Reuters on Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Tuesday said he hoped to build three joint-venture refineries in the country to process Venezuelan crude, and construct a joint tanker fleet, upon arriving in China on the first leg of an international tour.
The two countries in May agreed to build a 400,000-barrel-per-day plant in southern Guangdong province, which is the first such investment deal between Caracas and Beijing, but Chavez is already eyeing wider co-operation.

"China is investing over there, Venezuela is investing over here. We are talking about three refineries, to bring our crude, which is heavy, and process it here in China," he told journalists minutes after stepping off the plane.

"We are also working on a project to construct a joint Chinese-Venezuelan oil fleet," he added.

More:
http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2008/9/pages/venezuelaeyesthreerefineriesinchina.aspx
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:50 AM
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3. Odd that Hugo's title but not his name
is missing in the CNN News title apart from which he's the President: not the president. Wankers :)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:46 AM
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4. Pay attention folks. This is a New World Order.
The PNACers and greedy oligarchs have destroyed America and her prominence.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:29 AM
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5. Memo to Hugo: DON'T DRINK THE MILK! -nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:19 PM
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6. Notice how CNN stresses weapons purchases--this looks like rather clever psyops.
Paragraph #1: He's there "to discuss the possibility of buying weapons," vaguely attributed to "state-run media." (Which state? China? Venezuela? Which media in particular? Was that all that they said? Was that the first thing that they said?)

Paragraph #2: Says who he's meeting with according to "Xinhua news agency," but is that relevant to the first paragraph?

Paragraph #3: weapons again (fighter jets), "reportedly."

As Business 24/7 reports--posted by Judi Lynn in Comment #2--Chavez's main goal is more than likely the three oil refineries to be built in China, to process crude oil, and also building an oil tanker fleet--because these items are so vital to Venezuela's economy and future, much more important than fighter jets or weapons. They are the key to Venezuela's true sovereignty vis a vis the U.S. (Venezuelan crude now refined in Texas) and to its sovereignty vis a vis world trade. Refineries in China will give Venezuela choices--flexibility, leverage, more control over the uses of its major resource.

CNN doesn't even mention the oil refineries! This is a typical Corpo/fascist 'news' strategy aimed at giving the impression that Chavez is a "dictator" and somehow a danger to us, and aimed at keeping us ignorant and stupid about what is really going on in Venezuela, South America and the world. Their goal is to keep our people ignorant and stupid long enough to steal our every last dime unto the 7th generation. Meanwhile, South America is swiftly moving toward a South American "Common Market"based on leftist social justice principles, democracy, good government, cooperation, mutual aid and the sovereignty of Latin American countries--and not including the U.S.

Omitted from the CNN article: The Bushwhacks, for no good reason at all--and for very bad reasons--are conducting a lawless interdiction of parts for Venezuelan military jets and weapons that were originally purchased from U.S. corps. Thus, they are forced to seek replacement equipment from Russia and China (if the item on China described as "reportedly" is even true). As other analysts have established, Venezuela's military is a relatively modest one, typical of South America, and paltry compared, say, to Colombia's military ($6 BILLION in U.S. military aid through Bushwhack fingers to known death squadders and drug traffickers), and even to Brazil's (which is a weapons producer), and certainly to the U.S. military. Corpo/fascist propaganda horns like CNN report every Venezuelan weapons purchase as if a commie Armageddon was about to occur--when all they are doing is replacing items they can't get from the U.S. any more, or from countries that obey Bushwhack dictates, or are making modest upgrades and improvements in their defensive capability against South America's only enemy--the U.S. And they are doing this in consultation with the rest of South America. It was Brazil--not Venezuela--that recently proposed a South American common defense, in conjunction with the newly formed South American "Common Market"--with neither the common defense nor the common market including the U.S., for the very good reason that the U.S. is a bully behemoth and a mass murderer for oil.

CNN stresses the relatively unimportant weapons purchases, and leaves out the really important economic news, without providing any of the reasons for Venezuela's weapons purchases: 1) the common defense proposed by Brazil (they are all worried about the Bushwhacks); 2) the Bushwhack recent re-constitution of the U.S. 4th Fleet in the Caribbean, right off Venezuela's oil coast (Brazil's president recently said the 4th Fleet is a threat to its new coastal oil discoveries on the Atlantic coast, as well); 3) Bushwhacks funding and organizing civil war in Bolivia--with rich fascists murdering peasants and rioting last week, in an effort to secede from Evo Morales' national government, and take Bolivia's gas and oil riches with them, and Morales expelling the U.S. ambassador for his collusion in it; 4) Ecuador's president says that it's a three-country Bushwhack civil war strategy (Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela).

Is Hugo Chavez a "dictator," a warmonger, a menace, or is he simply doing his sworn duty, as the elected president of Venezuela, to insure that the Venezuelan military has guns that shoot and planes that fly, should the Bushwhacks take their next logical step--instigating civil war in Venezuela's coastal oil province (Zulia), with the 4th Fleet and Colombian death squads backing up the fascists declaration of "independence"?

CNN deals in impressions, not facts. They try to push peoples' buttons, rather than providing context and understanding. They are liars, disinformationists and Corpo/fascist propagandists. And they fuck with our minds in big ways and little ways. And if you pay close attention and follow it for a length of time, you begin to see even the little ways that they seek to distort the 'news' to Corpor/fascist purposes. This distorted emphasis on Venezuelan weapons purchases is a case in point. Its blackholes of missing information are vast. Its subliminal messages are: Be afraid of leftist leaders (blackhole: who are actually elected). Be afraid of the poor, cuz them brownskins are gittin the guillotines out (blackhole: the South American poor has proceeded peacefully and democratically to change their countries). Be afraid of socialism (blackhole: Chavez's socialist government has produced a nearly 10% economic growth rate, with the most growth in the private sector (not including oil); bootstrapping the poor is essential to both productivity and a good society). Be afraid of whatever bogeymen with lots of oil we tell you to be afraid of.

And they never tell you the truth: Be afraid of Bushwhacks and their Corpo/fascist puppetmasters.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:15 PM
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7. Do you recall around 8 years ago it was discovered military psyops interns were working
in the CNN newsroom? There was a brief flurry when the news got out and they claimed the psyops people were only there temporarily.

Not really satisfactory as an explanation, but nothing more was done about it, of course.

Thank you for taking the time to make these points.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:15 PM
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8. Chavez stresses importance of Venezuela's relationship with China on visit to Beijing
Chavez stresses importance of Venezuela's relationship with China on visit to Beijing
By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN | Associated Press Writer
1:54 PM EDT, September 23, 2008

BEIJING (AP) _ Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said his country is no longer the backyard of the U.S. and that he finds it more important to visit Beijing than New York, as he arrived Tuesday in China's capital on the first leg of an international tour.

The outspoken U.S. critic hopes to boost ties with China's communist leadership through increased oil sales, partly to reduce dependency on the United States, which still buys about half of Venezuela's oil despite years of tensions.

"China is showing the world and has shown the world that it isn't necessary to harm anyone to be a great power," Chavez told reporters upon his arrival in Beijing. "They're soldiers of peace."

Asked about his absence from talks this week on the sidelines of the United Nations in New York, Chavez said: "It's much more important to be in Beijing than in New York."

More:
http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-as-china-venezuela,0,4195921.story
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:16 PM
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9. BoRev.net has a great riff on the Corpo 'news' reports about Chavez in China.
Here it is. Enjoy!

(first article)
http://www.borev.net/
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