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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:13 AM
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Cheney, Paulson Head to Hill to Soothe Lawmakers on Bailout
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Cheney, Paulson Head to Hill to Soothe Lawmakers on Bailout
Tuesday, September 23, 2008

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WASHINGTON — The White House is dispatching Vice President Dick Cheney to Capitol Hill Tuesday morning to help shore up support for the financial bailout of Wall Street.

Elsewhere in Congress, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, the architects of the bailout, will testify before the Senate Banking Committee about the rescue and its cost to taxpayers.

House conservatives are seething about the "big government" approach that they say President Bush is taking in the financial crisis. They don't like how much power it cedes to the Treasury or the price tag.

"(Cheney) is going to walk into a firing squad. I hope he brought his hunting rifle," an aide to one House conservative told FOX News.

Meanwhile, the Republican Study Committee has crafted some possible "fixes" to the plan drawn up over the weekend by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,426232,00.html



A headline only for FOX...Cheney and soothe in the same headline. :eyes:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:14 AM
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1. strong-arm time
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:20 AM by Solly Mack
Cheney's going to shoot Congress in the face and make them apologize for it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:28 AM
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8. Aka the Whittington Gambit.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:29 AM
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10. Yep. Please, Sir. Can I have another?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:31 AM
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14. -
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:32 AM
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15. Oh my. Teach'em young to just take it and ask for more.
(love it)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:43 PM
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39. That's what I was thinking too.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:15 AM
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2. Time to roll out the threats
Watch Congress roll over like puppies
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:16 AM
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3. Darth Cheney's presence should be a red flag the size of the Great North Woods
but will, no doubt, be overlooked by the lapdog congress. :grr:
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:13 AM
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27. Kiss of death - he only comes around when his interests are at stake.
Darth makes me very, very nervous.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:17 AM
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4. other than writing our congress peoples
is there anything we can do???
I feel like a huge steamroller is comin' down the pike...
and I feel helpless to stop it...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:12 AM
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26. Several million with torches and pitchforks
swarming the grounds just might do the trick!
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:36 AM
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30. I like this suggestion. I will bring a torch.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:21 AM
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5. Paulson/Bernanke before the Senate - 9:30am - C-SPAN 3
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:23 AM
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6. cheney alone knows where ALL the bodies are burried and he is going
to cajole and threaten to unearth the bodies if the congress does not go along with his plan to steal the balance of the treasury. :grr:
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:32 AM
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29. Y'know? Seems to me that's a two-way street
and there's bound to be more than a few who know where his bodies are buried, too. Y'eat enough shit-sandwiches and after a while y'know what? they start to taste like shit. Congress has had a bellyful; there's no more re-electing either li'l boots or Darth. If they don't get this bill through, they're toast and they know it. It might cost a few senators their careers, but if it were me, seeing the neoKKKons' nuts in a vise, it would be mighty, mighty, mighty tempting to nail a life-long tormenter just because I could, even at a price.

I know something about being tormented and bullied. I'm not a vindictive person... but there are plenty of republics in Congress who are.

Just thinkin' out loud. Maybe wishful, but odds are there are probably a few who are thinking, "Darth, you sumbitch, your profiteering is costing me reelection because my constituents are pissed. See how you like the stink of what's coming..."
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:26 AM
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7. Cheney and soothe are two words that never belong together
It's time for the old Luka Brazzi "soothing" for Congress.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:29 AM
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28. exactly!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:05 AM
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33. By "soothe," they mean "waterboard." n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:28 AM
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9. Is there a better way to alienate legislators than dragging Cheney along?
Isn't one of the key stumbling blocks the threat of unaccountable government? Why bring in the poster boy for unaccountable government? Jeez. It's like they want the package to fall apart.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:29 AM
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11. I know how Cheney is going to soothe the conservatives in Congress...
He's going to spread Preparation-H on those hemorrhoids.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:29 AM
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12. is cheney packing today? BLAM! BLAM!
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! Sign off on it or you all get it!!!!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:41 AM
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18. he should turn it on himself
oops, just kidding :hide:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:48 AM
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21. get mccain in there with him
"READY FIRE AIM"
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:53 AM
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22. & Phil Gramm, and James Baker, and Paulson, and etc., and
the li'l Caligula himself
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:29 AM
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13. "This will go much smoother if we let Halliburton handle the disbursements..."
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:39 AM
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16. Cheney to brow beat congress.....
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:40 AM
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17. do you ever feel like maybe
you've seen this movie before?

I don't see a whole lot of difference, save scale, between the abuses and power tricks Bush/cheney/rove et al use and the ones used on a macro level relationship (abusive partner, for example). In fact, I used to volunteer at a shelter and we passed out a pamphlet to women about the many pieces of the abuse pie. In order to maintain control, an abusive partner might dominate her physically, threaten her financially, cut her off from allies and support emotionally...You can see where I'm going here.

As horrible as all of this is, every once in a while I see one of these losers as one of those losers. Big roar, lots of threats and the intent to follow through if they don't get what they want. Dangerous, but not smart.

I don't know why I felt like making this observation; except that the feeling of powerlessness I hear often and feel myself reminds me of those women in the shelter. But one day, if they took their power back in time, there would be a shift and even though they knew the monster was dangerous, they were free because they saw his actions for what they were. Deliberate attempts at gaining and maintaining control.

Another reason I was thinking about this was the negotiations going on right now. One of the key signs of an abuser was right after the abuse, they abuser would say let's figure this out. e.g., "I blew up because I'm so stressed over lack of money." Woman pitches in to "help" him not get angry anymore, by spending less and working more. The result of his temper outburst and bad behavior? He gets more things his way.

Kind of like when you deregulate Wall Street and then tell everyone you need more power to make it right.

The power and control wheel they used to show how the abuser uses all of those things (money, physical power, intimidation, alienation) to maintain control. They taught us that abuse is much like the same techniques used with POWs and other large militaristic attempts at control, so it makes sense that I'm recognizing many of these techniques.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:38 AM
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35. I see the correlation also....
and there is no doubt about it that people like Cheney are narcissistic abusers. They just operate on a bigger playing field than a marriage. Narcissistic people rise to the top in organizations because of their cunning and controlling ways.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:48 PM
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43. Four words: Right Wing Corporate Duopoly
:grr: :nuke:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:42 AM
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19. Soothe as in foreplay
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:50 AM by formercia
just before they fuck us.

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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:38 AM
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31. well said.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:48 AM
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32. Greta Garbo said it well:
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 09:49 AM by formercia
"I want to be alone...."

That's her in the pic.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:45 AM
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20. Is 'soothe' the new 'blast them in the face with bird shot'?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:48 AM by Prag
Why didn't I get the Memo? Damnit... I'm so out-of-the-loop. Oh, you kids and your slang. :eyes:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:54 AM
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23. If cheney is throwing his weight behind this plan, now I know i don't like it. n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:05 AM
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34. Dispatched by the corporate oligarchs to protect their golden parachutes..
there is as much at stake here as there ever has been in this country.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:56 AM
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24. fucking cheney comes out of his bunker.....we're screwed if they pass this
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:07 AM
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25. Pelosi to Cheney: "Take this gavel and shove it up your ass" n/t
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:06 AM
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37. Yeah, right. That would take courage.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:46 PM
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41. Just like "Impeachment is off of the table" she'll sigh and promise oversight, then
I fear, fold like a cheap pantsuit. :(
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:32 PM
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46. Is that her way of telling Cheney
to go fuck himself?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:53 AM
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36. rubbing....twisting elbows of any wayward Repigs....Liddy Dole and Richard Burr shape up
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:45 PM
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38. UPDATE:Cheney Tries To Sway House Republicans On Treasury Plan
(Updates with quotes from Rep. Hensarling)

By Patrick Yoest

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials Tuesday tried to convince skeptical House Republicans a growing financial crisis would reverberate beyond Wall Street if a $700 billion Treasury Department proposal to buy up troubled mortgage-based assets isn't adopted.

Cheney didn't comment as he left the meeting with House Republicans, but members said his focus was on presenting the administration's plan as an attempt to keep growing unrest in the markets from affecting their constituents.

"The main purpose, the political purpose, was to show Republicans that it's not just Wall Street, it's Main Street," said Rep. Peter T. King, R-N.Y., a member of the House Financial Services Committee. King said representatives from the Federal Reserve and the White House Council of Economic Advisers also attended the meeting.

House Republican leaders, several of whom expressed displeasure with the administration's bailout of American International Group Inc. (AIG), now are faced with the task of convincing rank-and-file members to get behind the Treasury proposal.

more:http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080923%5cACQDJON200809231357DOWJONESDJONLINE000551.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=UPDATE:Cheney%20Tries%20To%20Sway%20House%20Republicans%20On%20Treasury%20Plan
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:45 PM
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40. NO HURRY Congress. Dammit, don't you rush giving OUR MONEY away.
:grr:
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:47 PM
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42. Oh Good, Dick Cheney is on the Case!
I can rest easy now!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:50 PM
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44. looks like he got shot down
House GOP rises up against Cheney
There was a time when Dick Cheney could turn back a Republican revolt on Capitol Hill.
That time is gone.

~snip~

Some Republicans at Tuesday’s meeting suggested Cheney, White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and economic policy adviser Keith Hennessey didn’t help their case.

“They were in worse shape when they left than when they came in,” said one lawmaker who was there. “These were the wrong guys…The problem is that they’ve used up a lot of good will.”

Cheney and the White House team made policy arguments for the proposal instead of political arguments that would help lawmakers explain a vote for the plan to voters in their districts. The meeting was almost an hour old when the vice president told the anxious Republicans, in response to a question, that failure to pass this would result in more foreclosures and cause grave hardship for their constituents.

Hennesey and Bolten – who shares a Goldman Sachs pedigree with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson –faced a number of tough questions about why the $700 billion bailout was necessary, how it would actually work and why this particular plan was the best response to the current crisis, according to notes circulated from the meeting.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4068765&mesg_id=4068765
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:18 PM
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45. “... in worse shape when they left ... the wrong guys ... used up a lot of good will ...&#8221...
I suppose it would just be rude to say that any halfwit could have predicted that outcome

:rofl:
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:12 PM
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47. Things like that only make me fear this Repug opposition is some sort of new October Surprise.
But given the Democrat's opposition to the Bush/Paulson plan, and Obama's increasing anger over it (as witnessed by previous statement's and his impropto "presser" today), I think they can handle this.
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