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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:41 AM
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Bernacke plays the fear card: Certain Recession without Bailout
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WASHINGTON - Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke bluntly warned Congress on Tuesday it risks a recession, with higher unemployment and increased home foreclosures, if lawmakers fail to pass the Bush administration's $700 billion plan to bail out the financial industry.

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Bernanke told the Senate Banking Committee that inaction could leave ordinary businesses unable to borrow the money they need to expand and hire additional employees, while consumers could find themselves unable to finance big-ticket purchases such as cars and homes.

Bernanke's remarks came in response to a question from Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the committee's chairman, who seemed eager to hear a strong rationale for lawmakers to act swiftly on the administration's unprecedented request.

"The financial markets are in quite fragile condition and I think absent a plan they will get worse," Bernanke said.

Ominously, he added, "I believe if the credit markets are not functioning, that jobs will be lost, that our credit rate will rise, more houses will be foreclosed upon, GDP will contract, that the economy will just not be able to recover in a normal, healthy way."

GDP is a measure of growth, and a decline correlates with a recession.

Bernanke outlined his grim scenario as committee members sat in silence, and as the Bush administration pressed lawmakers publicly and privately to act speedily.

Vice President Dick Cheney and Jim Nussle, the Bush administration's budget director, met privately with restive House Republicans, some of whom emerged from the session unpersuaded.

"Just because God created the world in seven days doesn't mean we have to pass this bill in seven days," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.

Added Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., "I am emphatically against it."

Dodd and other key Democrats have been in private negotiations with the administration since the weekend on legislation designed to allow the government to buy bad debts held by banks and other financial institutions.

Despite expressions of unhappiness in both parties, the prospects for legislation seemed strong, with lawmakers eager to adjourn this week or next for the elections.

Differences remained, though, including a demand from many Democrats and some Republicans to strip executives at failing financial firms of lucrative "golden parachutes" on their way out the door.

The administration balked at another key Democratic demand: allowing judges to rewrite bankrupt homeowners' mortgages so they could avoid foreclosure.

Despite the unresolved issues, President Bush predicted the Democratic-controlled Congress would soon pass a "a robust plan to deal with serious problems." He was speaking to the United Nations General assembly.

Stocks held steady in pre-noon trading on Wall Street as Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson told the Senate Banking Committee that quick passage of the administration's plan is "the single most effective thing we can do to help homeowners, the American people and stimulate our economy."

But even before Paulson could speak, lawmakers expressed unhappiness, criticism of the plan and — in the case of some conservative Republicans — outright opposition.

"I understand speed is important, but I'm far more interested in whether or not we get this right," said Dodd, who spoke first. "There is no second act to this. There is no alternative idea out there with resources available if this does not work," he added.

Sen. Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, the panel's senior Republican, was even more blunt. "I have long opposed government bailouts for individuals and corporate America alike," he said. Seated a few feet away from Paulson and Bernanke, he added, "We have been given no credible assurances that this plan will work. We could very well send $700 billion, or a trillion, and not resolve the crisis."

The legislation that the administration is promoting would allow the government to buy bad mortgages and other troubled assets held by endangered banks and financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster their balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and easing one of the biggest choke points in the credit crisis. If the plan works, it should help lift a major weight off the sputtering economy.

Buttressing Paulson's comments, Bernanke said action by lawmakers "is urgently required to stabilize the situation and avert what otherwise could be very serious consequences for our financial markets and for our economy."

A third witness, Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Christopher Cox, urged Congress to regulate a type of corporate debt insurance that figured prominently in the country's financial crisis.

"I urge you to provide in statute the authority to regulate these products to enhance investor protection and ensure the operation of fair and orderly markets," he said. The debt insurance is known as credit default swaps.

So far this year, a dozen federally insured banks and thrifts have failed, compared with three last year. The country's largest thrift, Washington Mutual Inc., is faltering.

Republicans said the sheer size of the bailout would cost each man, woman and child in the United States $2,300.

If approved and implemented, that could push the government's budget deficit next year into the $1 trillion range — far and away a record.

Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate, pointed to other potential consequences, as well. In an interview with NBC, he said that if he wins the White House, he would likely have to phase in the proposals he has outlined for new federal spending. He did not elaborate.

Congressional Republicans, in particular, piled on the criticism of the administration's suggested solution to the crisis.

"This massive bailout is not a solution, It is financial socialism and it's un-American," said Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky.

Dodd and others indicated that the stakes are too high for Congress not to act, but they made clear they would insist on changes in the administration's weekend changes.

Dodd said the administration's initial proposal would have allowed the Treasury secretary to "act with utter and absolute impunity — without review by any agency or court of law" in deciding how to administer the envisioned bailout program.

"After reading this proposal, I can only conclude that it is not just our economy that is at risk, Mr. Secretary, but our Constitution, as well," Dodd said.

The U.S. has taken extraordinary measures in recent weeks to prevent a financial calamity, which would have devastating implications for the broader economy. It has, among other things, taken control of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, provided an $85 billion emergency loan to insurance colossus American International Group Inc. and temporarily banned short selling of hundreds of financial stocks.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown




Astoundlingly, it isn't even playing with Republicans.

This bill is sitting dead in the water.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:42 AM
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1. "This bill is sitting dead in the water." - No, it will pass by Friday... n/t
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:51 AM
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4. No, I don't think so. This is an election year, and the people are fucking pissed

It won't pass this week.

This could turn into a brawl. And, it isn't because the politicans care a damn wit about us. They
realize that the majority of Americans see this for what it is - a mad dash to thieve and bankrupt our treasury.
It is political suicide for some members of Congress to approve this right now.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:57 AM
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8. Bailing out Wall Street is more important than Main Street...
I would be absoultely shocked if it does not pass this week.

True, it is an election year, but they want to get out of town so they will pass it. They will hem and haw, but they will each use it as a way to blame the other side. But they are scared that if they do nothing, they will personally take the blame rather than passing something fast and blaming the Bush administration.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:33 PM
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17. Well, I will bet you a Root Beer it doesn't pass this week

I know, heavy stakes...

:)
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:36 PM
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19. I guess it will have to be a Virtual Root Beer, but I'll check back later! n/t
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:46 AM
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2. To Paraphrase the Movie, "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane"
We ALREADY ARE in a recession.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:25 PM
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16. Then he's right! A recession is a certainty!
Captain Obvious has landed.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:48 AM
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3. your in recession now
a bill of this magnitude is throwing the bathtub out with the baby, burning down the house and blowing up the nieghborhood - all in one fell swoop.

It is a scorched earth ideology. Why, you ask? Because it freezes the government's abilities to do ANYTHING else and it causes your dollar to collapse, which, in turn results in double digit inflation the likes that have not been seen for decades. It will destroy America -and those who were primary instigators will dissappear and get away with it.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:51 AM
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5. It feels like a depression to many of us - the post is more about the fear tactic

Then, the reality...
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:54 AM
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6. We're already headed for recession, if not in it already
Bailout ==> Recession
No bailout ==> Recession

This is just a frame, so that Dem's will take the blame if the bailout gets killed.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:56 AM
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7. So this bail out may cause huge inflation, the value of the dollar will =
toilet paper... why not just let the market work it out... we're are hosed either way
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM
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18. I just wanna know, what is the temp of the water coming out of that hose?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 12:35 PM by lonestarnot
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:58 AM
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9. BTW: I think many believe we are already in a recession anyhow... n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:02 PM
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10. Bozo Ben..
.... we're already in a recession and your bailout isn't going to help much if any.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:13 PM
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11. Brought to you by the same crew that said Saddam was coming to bomb our houses.
They have lied about so much it shocks hell out of me that anyone even listens to them anymore.

Remember, this is also the same crew that told us everything was just FINE up to just recently...



Laura
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:14 PM
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12. Recession is so old news
This is allready The Apeshit Depression.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:15 PM
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13. This bill is sitting dead in the water. Agreed...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 12:18 PM by greyghost
None of them want to commit political suicide, surprise, surprise.
Bush Co wasn't happy with what they've stolen already, they want more.
To bad for them that the majority of the American people realize it.

We've been in a recession for months, who the fuck does he think he's fooling? If we let them get away with this we're looking at double digit inflation, quite possibly hyper-inflation, as the value of the dollar sinks even more.

Keep the pressure on them, it's in our best interest and the countries.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:17 PM
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14. We are already in a recession - they have just been in denial n/t
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:18 PM
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15. Can you trim the article to 4 paragraphs?
per DU rules?
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:36 PM
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20. Whatever happened to the Invisible Hand??
hmmm.
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Buenaventura Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:12 PM
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21. Seriously, trust me. -- Ben Bernanke
Because that's where the money is. -- Willie Sutton

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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:54 PM
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22. Without bailout Depression. With, maybe only a recession.
I have good friends inside banking. Last week we were literally 48 hours from having a complete meltdown of the financial system.

Suddenly nobody (and I mean nobody) would lend. At the same time there was a huge surge in redemptions on money market funds and the funds couldn't raise enough cash to meet the redemptions.

As much as I absolutely hate this, and as much as I think it is a bailout for W.S., the fact is we are in grave trouble right now, and not to acknowledge it is foolish.

We can work out the details of making the pricks who caused this pay later--and we damn well better make them pay.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:06 PM
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23. CNN.COM is doing all they can to push this bailout also
on their home page is a leading headline of 'Stocks Tumble at the Close' with a picture of brokers holding their heads. Please! It was a 160 point drop, how many times has that happened this year.

But the message to the readers is: If you don't stop complaining about the bailout, THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:57 PM
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24. Not playing with Republicans
Probably b/c they're hoping to claim some political cover if it blows up and claim it's a Dem congress.

But since they aren't falling in line, the Bush boys are going to have to deal with the Dems. We're in a very strong position, and I sure hope we make the most of it.

I'm pleased with what I hear from Frank and from my one senator.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:02 PM
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25. Either way the economy is headed for the dumpster...choose your poison..n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:15 PM
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26. Let it die. The Dems are going to look like they own this clusterfuck, while the Repubs
distance themselves from it.

Just say NO (at least to anything CLOSE to this particular incarnation...)
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:47 PM
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27. Bernanke
seems contrived. Like someone forced him into this scheme.
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