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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:43 AM
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Poll: 60% asked oppose legalizing gay marriage
WASHINGTON – A majority of Americans say they don't want laws in their states that would legalize same-sex marriages, according to a poll taken after the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling in favor of such marriages.

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In polling conducted by the National Annenberg Election Survey, people said by a 2-1 ratio – 60 percent to 31 percent – that they oppose any similar law legalizing same-sex marriage in their states.

Still, they were cool to the idea of a federal constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages.

In the poll, 49 percent of those polled were opposed to such an amendment and 42 percent favored it.

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Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/tue/news/news_1n10gay.html


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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:54 AM
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1. 49 percent oppose federal ban on same-sex marriages
is significant, and I think, an even more interesting statistic.

With just a little information out there to people, it wouldn't take much, that 49 percent could quickly turn to that 60 percent, making it a federal consititutional issue, which it is.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:13 AM
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2. I hate the 60% number makes a headline
and buried in the article you find 49% oppose an Ammendment while only 41% support it.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:17 AM
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3. Yes, a majority are wrong.
Someday this will change. Young people support marriage equality. People who are acquainted with gay people in the workplace or elsewhere are more positive also. That's why it's so important for gay people not to ghettoize themselves and to live their lives wherever they may be.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:19 AM
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4. Special rights for heterosexuals
The aggressive majority wants to preserve their special right and accord the state the right to determine the sanctity (or holiness) of ones relationship. We let criminals marry, we let Satanists marry, we let sadists marry, but god forbid we should extend that right to homosexuals. This whole issue is simply a manifestation of homosexual bigotry.

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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:48 PM
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6. Does anyone know
if the constitution covers homosexuals? If it does the that should be the end of the story.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:58 PM
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9. The XIVth Amendment
guarantees 'equal protection under the law' for all citizens. So any form of discrimination against anyone by the government is inherently unconstitutional--that was one of the bases of the SCOTUS decision in the Texas sodomy law case. This is also why they're talking about amending the Constitition--they know any other measures would be illegal.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:49 PM
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13. that's why they wanted the alcohol prohibition to be an amendment
it was illegal under existing laws for the government to ban anything
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:15 PM
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15. in fact
another reason that prohibition was an amenmdent was that in 1918 it was unheard of that the federal government had the inherent power to regulate individual private, consentual conduct. It's the same reason that the marijuana laws started out as an obscenely high tax on marijuana.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:48 PM
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12. yes it does
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:01 PM
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5. In Germany it's the same
I don't understand this. We got a gay major in our capitol Berlin, we got many gay celebrities and I think it's really accepted to be gay (almost).
I'am not gay, but for me it's everybody's own decision to live how he or she wants to live. If they want to merry, why not?
Who has the right to say no, folks, you don't have the right to merry. If someone wants to protect or to advance families with children, it's ok. I think it's necessary. But this did not depends of your sexual bias.



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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:51 PM
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7. The mayor of Providence, RI is gay
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 12:52 PM by sallyseven
Congressman Barney Frank is gay, There are several gay congressmen that are gay and some of them are republicans. There are other Mayors and council people in the US that are gay. What is the problem. All walks of life can be gay. There are gay people in the media too. You might be surprised. Do not be fooled by a weedding ring.
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:44 PM
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10. You might be surprised.
no, I'am not ;)
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:56 PM
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8. And that's why human rights aren't supposed to be determined by polls. NT
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gold_bug Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:05 PM
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14. I wonder what the results would be for "civil union"
rather than "gay marriage". If the question is, do you support "gay marriage", or do you support "civil unions" for gay couples, the results differ, maybe by 10 points.

When the question is a simple "do you support equal rights for gays" the majority will respond affirmatively.
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:43 PM
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16. Re; Civil Union vs. Marriage
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-01-14-gay-civil-union_x.htm

Gay 'civil union' not as divisive as 'marriage'
By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY
Americans' views are sharply divided on gay rights, with most against same-sex "marriage" but fewer opposed to "civil unions," a new poll shows.
The word "marriage" makes a difference, suggests the latest USA TODAY/ CNN/Gallup Poll, based on phone interviews with 1,003 adults Jan. 9-11.

A majority (53%) opposes a law that "would allow homosexual couples to legally get married," while 24% favor it. But significantly fewer (41%) oppose "civil unions," giving homosexual couples "some of the legal rights of married couples."

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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:45 PM
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11. I wouldn't be surprised...
...to see gay civil unions in the next 10 years, if not marriage.

The fundies won't be able to stop it.
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