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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:42 PM
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No point in searching for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq: Kay
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The former chief of the group of experts responsible for finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, David Kay, said there was no point in continuing to hunt for arms he said "really did not exist."

"I think finding them is probably the wrong approach, the wrong strategy," Kay told a news conference.

"Iraq is as large California, Baghdad is as large as LA (Los Angeles). Have you looked every possible place? The answer to that question is always going to be no. My confident prediction is that 20 years from now, maybe 50 years from now, people will still be digging things up in Iraq," he said.

When you "look for the production processes, learn where they have been produced, look for the people that have been involved in that production, look for the records, ... pretty soon you reach the conclusion they really did not exist," he said.

"My personal conclusion is that there were no large stockpiles of chemical and biological weaponized material."

Kay resigned in January and has blamed intelligence failures, not political leaders, for the much-publicized accusations that Saddam possessed chemical and biological weapons and sought nuclear arms -- the core of President George W. Bush's case for war.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040210/pl_afp/us_iraq_weapons_kay
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:45 PM
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1. So it can be proven they knew this before the butchering. How much $$$ did
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 04:02 PM by dArKeR
it cost us to search for a lie?
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:47 PM
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2. Not so long ago, we thought Kay was going to toe the party line
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 03:50 PM by 56kid
Doesn't look like he is.
A few months ago I know I thought or feared he was going to be part of a whitewash.
Although I don't agree with him about where to assign blame I'm still continually surprised at how forcefully he is saying that there aren't any WMD's in Iraq.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:56 PM
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14. But what happened to the WMDs the Bushistas were going to plant ...
in Iraq? I certainly hope they haven't instead given them to Lybia! ;-)
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:48 PM
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3. I Feel Bad For Kay.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 03:49 PM by jayfish
He was a true believer. It must have really hurt to have the cool-aid pitcher slapped away from his face like that.

Jay
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:53 PM
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4. On the other hand
I have to tip my hat to Kay. I too thought he was going to be a stooge for the Bushies. The man told the truth and has earned my respect.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:29 PM
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8. No Respect for Kay
This asshole was a big promoter of the invasion/genocide. So what if now he tells the truth about it, the damage is done, it doesn't matter what the stooge says now. They are all laughing their asses of about how they fooled everybody.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:37 PM
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9. Yup - and he is working hard to deflect blame from the Chimp
I don't trust him at all.

Slimebag...

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:57 PM
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5. In the mean time how much money was spent on the Iraq Survey Group
when the military had told us the same thing?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:14 PM
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6. Chimp needs to step down now!
This lie has cost us untold $ and standing. Maybe 2 trillion before this fiasco is over, many innocent lives, and we now the credibility of a drunk prostitute. We just waisted universal healthcare for a decade on a fictitious war by lustful neo-cons. Perle, Wolf, Rummy, chimp, Cheney, Rice, and Powell should never be heard from again. I think I smell burning monkey flesh.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:41 PM
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10. credibility of a drunk prostitute
Now now, since when couldn't you put your faith and trust in... oh well.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:48 PM
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11. I read that AFTER the election, $50 Billion more
will be needed. That in addition to the $160 Billion already authorized.

Obviously, they can't secure the oilfields long enough to provide for Iraq, let alone pay debts.

On the other hand, I wonder how much is getting skimmed way from Iraq and put in the BFEE's evil hands? At $33+ a barrel, it is even more lucrative.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:19 PM
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7. Seem to recall the number was in the $600 million range n/t
n/t
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:49 PM
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12. How do you hide a million pounds of WMD?
Do the math...500 tons = 1,000,000 lbs

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:54 PM
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13. I am sure Kay has his reasons
and knows something we do not. It seems to me that Kay is smarter than some othersm, like Powell, or at the least is not as roped in because of neopotism, and because one's son needed a job.

Unlike Powell, he is able to disentangle himself from the rotting core. He is probably smarter than them all.
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