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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:09 PM
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Bolivia halts US anti-drugs work
Source: BBC News

Page last updated at 22:10 GMT, Saturday, 1 November 2008

Bolivia halts US anti-drugs work

Bolivian President Evo Morales has announced he is
suspending "indefinitely" the operations of the
US drug enforcement agency in his country.

Mr Morales accused the agency of having encouraged
anti-government protests in Bolivia in September.

He did not say whether its staff would be asked to
leave the country, as coca- growers have been
pressing him to do.

-snip-

'Defending Bolivia'

"From today all the activities of the US DEA are
suspended indefinitely," the Bolivian leader said in
the coca-growing region of Chimore, in the central
province of Chapare.

-snip-

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7704528.stm
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:18 PM
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1. excellent
The DEA is a criminal organization. It constantly breaks United States Constitutional law (4th and 8th amendments). Drugs or drug-use should never be illegal.

Some people use tree-limbs to build houses, others use them to assault neighbors.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:39 PM
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4. double excellent.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:36 AM
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11. triple that
now let's just end this stupid, so-called 'war' on drugs altogether.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:25 PM
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2. As the solidarity in Latin America grows, and it most surely will, each country will be able
to start resisting interference in its own internal history by outside forces, and petty tyrants from other countries who believe they are going to run right over them, since they can't protect themselves.

Venezuela already threw out the DEA, probably in 2008, and was attacked fiendishly by the US-controlled media for its efforts. That didn't stop them.

Choices have to be made to insure the future of these countries. They DON'T WANT people like George W. Bush, or Ronald Reagan sending in assassins to kill off their elected presidents, or arm and send in death squads from neighboring countries any longer.

They don't like the local American ambassador monitoring internal movements, even having a live camera fixed on operations by a country's military as it executes missions, all monitored from the U.S. embassy, as in Colombia.

They don't want ambassadors from other countries conspiring with the opposition in their countries, and planning acts of sabotage, etc., and conducting business AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT OF THE HOST COUNTRY.

Rafael Correa, LANDSLIDE elected President of Ecuador (who proposed. during his campaign, to remove Americans from the Manta Air Base there) only a couple of days ago, made public statements about the fact the CIA had infiltrated his own government, and military. Contrary to what some twisted, unethical, delusional, megalomaniacal chauvinists think, that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. PERIOD. PERMANENTLY.
He's throwing them out. All of them.

I don't blame the elected leaders of these countries for wanting them gone the hell out of there. Send them back home to straighten things out in their OWN country. Let them get to work finding out who's behind the crooked voting machines, as if we didn't know.
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desktop Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:29 PM
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3. No one doubts Bush used DEA as a front for CIA
If all that money spent over there was spent on drug education here, the benefits would be much greater for America. Make a decent paying job available to an American and that American has a lot less motivation to sit around getting stoned.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:44 PM
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5.  U.N. says Colombian military executing civilians
updated 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
U.N. says Colombian military executing civilians


BOGOTA, Colombia (CNN) -- Colombia's U.S.-backed security forces are engaging in "systematic and widespread" extrajudicial executions of innocent civilians as part of their counterinsurgency campaign, a top United Nations diplomat said Saturday.

Speaking in Bogota after a weeklong fact-finding tour, Navi Pillay, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, said the scale of the killings could constitute a "crime against humanity" under international humanitarian law, adding that international courts could intervene if the Colombian government was "unwilling or unable" to handle the investigations itself.

~snip~
A U.N. report published last year said the organization had seen "significant increases" in the number of cases.

Meanwhile, the government attorney general's office says it opened close to 800 investigations into accusations of summary executions by the police and military between January 2003 and September 2007.

Typically, according to the U.N. and the attorney general's office, security forces will "disappear" or kill civilians and later present them to the media as leftist rebels or right-wing paramilitary fighters killed in combat.

Since 2000, Colombia has received about $5 billion in mostly military aid from the United States to fight drugs and the guerrilla war.

More:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/11/01/colombia.UN/index.html?iref=hpmostpop
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:49 PM
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6. The closer we come to our election the more the entire
planet is shifting. From hard tyrannical right to liberal. It just can't happen fast enough.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:01 PM
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7. Amen.
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:46 PM
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8. Viva Morales!
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 07:47 PM by app_farmer_rb
Evo is a good guy, and I hope he able to stay that way despite any reactionary pressure he may be feeling. I traveled and worked a bit in Bolivia back when a US puppet was still at the helm (i.e.- early B* years here), and Evo Morales was organizing the indigenous communities and cocaleros into protests and blockades. It's amazing to see how things have changed in a few short years:he's gone from being an activist considered by many to be on the fringe, to becoming the nation's president).

In Bolivia, coca leaf is a traditional medicinal and mild stimulant that is chewed (or brewed into tea) by many without addiction or harm. I would love to see Obama end the war on drugs here in the US, thus opening the possibility of a true friendship with Morales and the Bolivian people. Enough of this criminal war, let's have us some peace!

-app

edit to say K&R!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 09:27 PM
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9. Fantastic. The War on (some) Drugs is a colossal failure - legally, ethically, and strategically.
NT!

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:47 AM
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10. Thanks for this post! The South Americans are showing us the way out of this darkness...
Not only on the INSANE, corrupt, failed, murderous "war on drugs," at home and abroad, but also...

TRANSPARENT vote counting--they have voting systems far, far cleaner than our own--thus they get better leaders. In a fair and democratic system, the best--the smartest, the most talented, the finest representatives of the people--rise to positions of leadership. (And if you have a brain-damaged Corpo/Fascist mass murderer, torturer and shredder of the Constitution as president, you know something's wrong. And you don't have far to look to find out what it is: NON-transparent vote counting, by Bushwhack corporations, using 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code. I mean, really.)

Maximum citizenship in politics and government--the empowerment of the poor as a political force, at long last--much like the New Deal era here.

Social justice. The use of a country's resources to help its people, not to stuff the pockets of the rich. We need to turn this around. You can't have a good society with a vast discrepancy between rich and poor. You need to foster and mobilize creativity, talent, knowledge and industriousness at all levels of society--or your society DIES, as ours is in danger of doing.

The common good. Public ownership of important resources and systems. Examples: 1. Bolivians fought privatization of the their water system--when the rich elite had sold it off to Bechtel Inc., and Bechtel immediately raised the cost of drinking water to the poorest of the poor--even charging poor peasants for collecting rainwater. The people won. That was the fight that catapulted Morales into the presidency. 2. Morales nationalized Bolivia's main resource, gas, and renegotiated the contracts, doubling Bolivia's gas revenues from $1 billion/yr to $2 billion/yr. In Venezuela, previous governments had nationalized the oil, but they were giving away 90% of the profits to multinationals, and serving only a rich urban elite with Venezuela's portion. The Chavez government renegotiated the contracts, ultimately to a 60/40 split, favoring Venezuela, and has not only been using the profits to bootstrap the poor, diversify the economy and help the region, but also has saved nearly $40 billion in cash reserves--an important cushion against the Bushwhack Financial 9/11.

Peace, friendliness and cooperation. South America is experiencing an amazing, peaceful, democratic, leftist revolution. The new leaders, all over the continent--in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile--have been working closely together on infrastructure development, regionally controlled banking and finance, and political/economic integration. This May, they formed UNASUR, the South American "Common Market." Because the U.S. is not a member, UNASUR was the entity that could give unanimous and strong backing to the Morales government in Bolivia, when it was attacked from within by white separatists, funded and organized out of the U.S.embassy. The U.S. would not likely be welcome in UNASUR, but the Obama administration would be wise to create an entirely new U.S. foreign policy toward Latin America, of respect and cooperation. Together, the good people of this earth can achieve social justice, defeat the global corporate predators who have been running things, and save the planet. Interesting idea, huh? Cooperation and respect.

The indigenous view of Mother Nature. Ecuador just passed a new Constitution (with nearly 70% of the vote) which contains a first-in-the-world provision granting formal legal status to Mother Nature ("Pachamama" in the indigenous language). This provision states that Mother Nature and her critters and ecosystems have a right to exist and to function properly apart from human interests. The indigenous have a philosophy of respect and wisdom with regard to Nature, expressed, for instance, in the organic farming of the campesinos, based on thousands of years of accumulated knowledge and skills. They reject the use of toxic pesticides and GMOs (pushed by our global corporate predators), and have persistently, and courageously, fought against these and other assaults on Pachamama. It's time that our culture abandoned its hatred of Nature--derived from our Calvinist forebears--and the gross and careless exploitation of its resources, and learn some respect for the natural world in which we evolved. If we don't, we will go extinct like the dinosaurs. Simple as that. The indigenous tribes of South America are showing the way.

Common sense. The common sense view of things rarely gets heard, or heeded, in our corrupt Corpo/Fascist-run government. Common sense says legalize all recreational drugs; take the profit out of it, and the drug lords and the gangs and the crime go away. Then you have a manageable social and medical problem, not a "war." We spend $35,000/yr to hold someone in prison for drug possession, for ten, fifteen years. THIS. IS. NUTS. And it occurs because of the filthy, corrupt lobbying of war/police-state profiteers and the 'prison-industrial complex." The South Americans are showing the way. END the "war on drugs." Focus on real crime. Save yourselves lots and lots and lots of money, and the social cost of lives destroyed in prison. We're spending $6 BILLION in military aid in Colombia alone, with not a dent in the cocaine reaching our streets. End the "war on drugs," and, believe me, the campesinos will take care of the drug lords.
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