Palin campaign stonewalls on medical records

[maddezmom]

Source: CNN

Palin has not yet released her medical records.
LAKEWOOD, Ohio (CNN) – With less than 24 hours to go before the presidential election, Sarah Palin still has not released her medical records and there is no indication the campaign is planning to do so.

Two weeks ago, Palin’s campaign told several reporters traveling with the campaign that a summary of the governor’s medical history would be made public before election day.

Reporters were told that details on Palin’s medical background would be released early last week. Last Thursday, after that timeframe had passed, a campaign aide backed off the previous pledge, saying the campaign wasn’t sure when the information would be released.



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[YDogg]

1. Baby is not hers. Or she had an unfortunate "procedure."

My guesses.

[DemNoir]

5. Yep thats it

Medical records would reveal her staged pregnancy.

[sunnystarr]

24. Medical records probably reveal a tubal ligation after Piper was born. (nt)

[RayStar]

139. Tubes tied/clipped

I think this is the reason for keeping her records private.

[MindMatter]

157. But that would give her an opportunity to proclaim a miraculous birth

And she would do it, too.

That Jesus has lots of tricks up his sleeve.

[dmr]

175. Hard to convince people that giving birth to your own grandchild with tied tubes is really possible

is my guess. That, and a possible abortion when she was young, or being on Prozac.

Any of this isn't a problem for me. Palin's medical past mean nothing to me, it's the totality of Palin and hypocrisy that I have a problem with.

[walkaway]

25. An abortion in her past?

That would have sunk her ship.

[MindMatter]

40. But how would we ever know?

There isn't any objective body that reviews these submissions and attests that they are accurate and complete. The candidate can do whatever they want to.

[El Fuego]

181. Exactly. It's easy to BURY something in your medical past, it's CREATING stuff that's the stickler

Just leave some things out. No one will know, unless you've been going to only one doctor your whole life which isn't likely, even in Alaska. If she had an abortion, that info isn't going to follow her around if it was at an independent clinic. No one is required to have consolidated complete medical records.

BUT, what she won't be able to do is CREATE medical records about conditions that never existed. Like, for example... PREGNANCY. As a mother who recently supposedly gave birth, she should have extensive, recent records about every aspect of her pregnancy. But I bet there just ain't none, and that's Palin's Problem.

[MindMatter]

192. We'll send her back to Wasilla, and then ...

some things may emerge after a few months. She may wise up and decide that she isn't cut out for life on the national stage. If so, then this will quickly become a most forgettable 10 weeks in this nation's history.

But if she seriously tries to mount a real push for 2012, I'm guessing there are some folks who know the truth about the pregnancy and other matters, who will get this out into the open.

There are some sensitive lines here. I do not think the public has an inherent right to know all the details of a candidate's medical history. But if it is a case where the medical record does not support a claim as basic as her bearing a child despite colleagues being completely unaware of it through the 7th's month, that is definitely within the public's right to know because it goes right to the character and honesty of the candidate.

[cui bono]

202. I agree. I never believed the baby was hers.

If that was the truth then she's the worst mother and person to have gotten on all those flights after her water broke.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

214. It's actually pretty easy to find out medical info, even if you were only seen at a clinic once

I work in life insurance. Applicants are always shocked at how easy it is to find their full medical history.

[prostock69]

114. It could be why she is so anti-abortion now

The guilt from it has made her so against it, that she's adamantly against anyone woman having one.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

137. She probably had abortions in her teens?

multiple?

[arikara]

173. That's not what happens

And that's not why fundy's are against choice.

[Dervill Crow]

203. For some women, that's exactly the case.

It's amazing how many adamant anti-abortion women had abortions when they were young, sometimes because their families or boyfriends pressured them into it, and they regret it. It should ALWAYS be the woman's choice.

I used to be a Right-to-Life chapter chairperson, and I know whereof I speak. (Emphasis on used to be.)

[tblue37]

218. Not necessarily. Many RW women are adamantly against abortions

for other women, but blithely assume that if they or theirs have an unwanted pregnancy, they should be able to have an abortion. I have never found any of them to feel the slightest guilt about their abortions or about their assumption that they would have an abortion if they needed one.

I don't think people like Sarah Palin have the capacity to feel guilt or shame.

[NorthCarolina]

59. That would be my guess also n/t

[FourScore]

89. Yep!

[dpbrown]

129. Because it's not her baby

Her stonewalling speaks volumes.

[Lena inRI]

193. Yesiree! So what is so worth faking a pregnancy?

1. Bristol's illegitimate baby? Why couldn't they just fess up as they have anyway with the pending marriage and second pregnancy?

Makes no sense at all for Palin to fake the pregnancy for Bristol. . . unless her first baby is by a relative. . .now we're covering up incest.

2. Is there any doubt now that the medical professionals just cannot bring themselves to fake a written record. . .especially a Sarah Palin birthing that never happened.

DNA testing would be the only way to put these suspicions to rest.

It's more medical professional refusing to sign birthing record. . .than Sarah Palin stonewalling.

:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

[LynnTheDem]

2. So much for that "clear and transparent" and Palin's word.

Just like the George W. bUsh regime; say one thing, do another.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

99. Bombard the traditional media with emails and phone calls

Take a five minute break every hour from GOTV activities...

Call each of the major media outlets and demand they cover this.

Ask what they are hiding.

Email the media.

Then find a GOTV activity to do. Bye for now.

[UnitedWeStand33]

131. ACT: TELL YOUR MEDIA COVER THIS STORY TODAY!!! (see media contacts lists posted on DU)

Palin thinks she is above the law already... Hate to think how it will be if she is actually in power.

PS. If the med. files are ever released - I bet they will be "cleaned up" beforehand.

[Dennis Donovan]

3. Clearly, she is hiding something...

That fact alone should make her ineligible for the Vice-Presidency.

[Auggie]

42. And ineligible for 2012, no?

[Bake]

46. Let's see her try to stonewall for four more years!

Somebody out there KNOWS what she's hiding. The truth will eventually come out.

Bake

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[Occulus]

65. What's with the 'both sides' crap? n/t

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[Dennis Donovan]

77. What, pray tell, has the Obama campaign hidden?

:eyes:

Also, it's the Democratic Party, not the Liberal party you'll be voting for tomorrow.:eyes:

[idahoman]

78. What, pray tell......

If it was hidden....hard to tell, eh?

[Dennis Donovan]

80. Then your charge of "both sides have hidden" is bullshit...

...just as I thought.

[Dennis Donovan]

132. Oops! Bye, idahoman...

:rofl:

[ExPatLeftist]

145. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STUDY LOGIC!!!! n/t

[shadowknows69]

107. Voting liberal?

The ticket you're thinking of is The Democratic Party.

[cliffordu]

103. Weaksauce....Intellectually that try is just gruel. Here's your prize:

:hurts:

[felinetta]

67. I hope Andrew Sullivan keeps digging - that baby is not hers!

[RayStar]

141. Thank you Andrew

If this baby is not hers,the American public has every right to know she and first dude are untruthful.

[MissDeeds]

98. Absolutely

And, as a woman, it really ticks me off that she's getting by with this. If a male candidate was refusing to release his records, it would be getting a lot more media attention and people would be calling foul. This stinks for a lot of reasons, and she is undoubtedly hiding something.

[LibDemAlways]

4. No reason a seemingly healthy woman her age wouldn't want to

release medical records - unless she's hiding some dark secret that would spell trouble with the base.

[bdamomma]

57. exactly she is hiding something.

why don't just come out with it? Sneaky beatch.

[MidwestTransplant]

6. She doesn't want to disclose personal info when she knows she is toast.

[torbird]

51. I agree

I think, last week, she told the press she would release the records when there was a chance she and McCain could win. They lost ground in most polls since then, however, and so there is ABSOLUTELY no reason for Palin to release her medical records now.

That would only draw more media scrutiny, and many even here at DU would say she was trying to distract the media in the final hours of the campaign; and she only stands to be harmed by any "revelations" in her records.

She might as well save it for any (slight) chance at public office she may have outside Alaska in the future.

[redqueen]

63. Really? The press is all about the polls tightening... and the gap closing. Sorry excuse. (nt)

[Midlodemocrat]

7. I think she's hiding the fact that she had her tubes tied after Piper.

And, obviously, that means Trig isn't hers. There's really no other reason not to release them.

[libnnc]

9. ding, ding

DING

[KayLaw]

11. Tubal ligation.

The only other thing would be psychiatric problems of the severe kind.

[smb]

112. Huh? Anybody Can Already See That She's Nuts

Holding back her medical records to conceal a psychiatric problems is like holding back her medical records to conceal her eye color.

[paparush]

45. But but but Trig was a MIRACLE (tm) dontcha know!

[Dora]

83. That's been my thought as well. nt

[samplegirl]

8. I have said it all along

the baby is not hers but her trampy daughters. She has had pleanty of time to doctor the records so what drugs is Palin on?

[gauguin57]

56. Hey, hey now. Just because someone gets pregnant as a teenager doesn't mean she's "trampy."

I know several people -- who raised their kids right -- whose kids made one little mistake (decided to go without the condom JUST THIS ONE TIME) and got pregnant. Shit happens.

Bristol may be, as you say, "trampy" ... but we really don't know anything about her. We barely know anything -- really -- about her mother. Since we don't know ... well, I'm just not gonna call Bristol a tramp. I wasn't the most responsible young lady when I was young and my hormones were raging. I lucked out. And I was definitely no tramp. Just silly. And young.

Shit happens.

[ForeignSpectator]

81. I agree with you, EXCEPT, under samplegirl's premise it would be bristol's 2nd teenage

pregnancy. And in that case "just silly and young" wouldn't really apply anymore.

[gauguin57]

88. Nope ... if Trig was Bristol's baby, then she's not pregnant now

(unless they lied about "how" pregnant she is) ... We'll know they're lying by 1) when she delivers or 2) the "miracle miscarriage" I expect to happen (if Trig is Bristol's) sometime after the election.

And by then ... Obama will be president and, at least until around 2011, I won't GIVE A CRAP about the Palin traveling circus.

[Window]

183. Depends on how pregnant Bristol is. It is very easy to get pregnant

soon after giving birth.

A friend and I gave birth within a day of each other. When we went back for our 6-week checkups, she was pregnant again and almost lost her mind.

[arikara]

176. No, but the word "troubled" certainly applies

and I have a lot of compassion for these lost republican children. They don't have a chance.

[mamameow]

105. family footsteps

hey, what do you want from bristol? she just follows mom's history. sarah had baby, full term, eight months after she and todd married. maybe this is what she is hiding. also, remember what you tell your doctor, no matter what it is, he puts it in your records. i know, i read medical records, at least 10 a day for 30 years as a life insurance medical underwriter. so watch what you say!!!!!

[salbi]

121. Does it make you feel better to call her daughter trampy???

I do believe Palin is hiding something and it should come out. It may be that Trig isn't hers, I've always suspected that, but even if that were true, leave Bristol out if it. Calling a 17 yr old names like that is disgusting and is something the Rove and his friends would be more apt to do. Something I hate seeing my own party do.

[RayStar]

142. Willow

What about Willow? Could be hers if Bristol is pregnant.

[KalicoKitty]

210. I have always felt the same way, samplgirl!

Surely, she must know what people are saying, so why didn't she just produce a birth certificate.

[Democat]

10. It's called a "LIE", CNN!!!

No "backed off the previous pledge" bullshit - they fucking lied!

[GinaMaria]

95. Broken promises from a broken campaign.

Is it worth it to pressure the media on this? Make a lot of noise and demand that they put public pressure on Palin to release the medical records now or be called a liar?

[Oregone]

12. Most likely she has been on depression medication

But who knows what else it says. I think we can at least safely assume what I mentioned above.

[Dennis Donovan]

13. That's been my hunch all along...

...that she's received pyschiatric help.

[Oregone]

16. And its really not a major issue for anyone familiar with Alaska

As well as Americans in general (if they weren't hypocrites), being that so many suffer from depression yearly (I forgot the number, but it is overwhelming). But, obviously, it wouldn't fly so well with the public regardless (who doesn't like talking about these things much).

But anyway, thats the least damaging thing I would think is most likely in there. You can only guess what else (especially related to pregnancy, or lack thereof).

[smb]

115. Live By The Low-Info Voter; Die By The Low-Info Voter

Reasonable and fair-minded people wouldn't consider an instance of medically treated depression to be an instant disqualifier.

However, that's not the demographic to which the Geezer/Dingbat ticket appeals.

[99 Percent Sure]

188. "geezer/dingbat ticket" - Perfect...

:applause: :rofl:

FWIW, she began homeschooling Blossom in February and, IIRC, Blossom's fancy boy Ammo is a drop-out. Doesn't add anything to the why of her not having relased her health records, but I think it is interesting minutiae to add to the discourse.

I'm with other DUers - either Dingbat the She-Wolf didn't birth the last baby OR she's got some psych issues that she doesn't want revealed. Of course, it could be both.

It is also entirely possible that the sexually active Blossom began boinking fancy boy Ammo not long after birthing the other baby. It is possible to get pregnant soon after birth; that is not out of the realm. She-Wolf is a pathological liar so we really can't believe anything she says about the pregnancy or anything else - especially not after she's claimed that her water burst over 10 hours before she returned to Alaska yet she waited until she returned home. That to me sounds more fanciful than her daugher being the baby mama.

removes :tinfoilhat:

[eridani]

197. I'm betting on consmetic enhancements on the taxpayer dime, myself

Or an abortion.

[badgerpup]

185. Speaking as somebody who deals with* depression...

Not everyone is a 'success story'.
The hype is 'take this little (red, blue, green, yellow, white, or pink-with-purple-polka-dotted) pill...
and voila! You get your life back, all normal and on an even keel.

It doesn't always work that way. Granted, some people do respond very favorably to medication.
It balances them out and they can pick up their lives and resume normal function.

Others...well...we become more stable than we were...but sometimes there are side effects (e.g., weight gain...which really helps a depressed woman feel better about herself :eyes::sarcasm:) or the medication doesn't work as promised/expected/desired.

Some people would just rather have depression, thank you...the side effects aren't worth it and they don't 'feel better' enough to balance out having to deal with them.


*FWIW...I prefer to use the terms dealing with or managing my own disorder as opposed to 'suffering from' it.

Did that make any sense?

edit for (hopefully) clarity

[barbtries]

26. hasn't helped much n/t

[Dennis Donovan]

27. .

:rofl:

[Midlodemocrat]

14. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to most Americans.

Given where she lives, likelihood of SAD, etc.

I think she had a tubal ligation and is covering up for Bristol. Now THAT would hurt her political career.

[Oregone]

18. For rational Americans it wouldn't be...

But come on now....we know how these things go. Mental illness is just something that people haven't completely come to terms with yet (even though everyone knows people affected).

[Midlodemocrat]

22. I'm thinking in terms of SAD.

People could easily forgive that because of where she lives.

I honestly think she had a tubal ligation, or a TAH. And, interestingly, we haven't seen hide nor hair of Bristol since August. WOnder how THAT pregnancy is progressing?

[Oregone]

29. Oh, about Bristol....

Just an odd prediction: the baby will be a month late or on time and under 6.5 pounds. Or some combination of late/underweight.

Hopefully that will make people ask some questions. :) Like it will matter though.

[Midlodemocrat]

30. It won't matter because by that time Palin will be back in Alaska

and out of our hair.

[barbtries]

28. i've said often

that if i had to live in alaska i'd be in a straitjacket 3 months into the first winter. i know i could not deal with being that cold for that much of the time.

[acmavm]

117. Feels colder in Minnesota in the winter. Alaska, even though

surrounded on 3 sides, they have little humidity and the trade currents. I lived up there and I was surprised on how my landlord and his wife always had their windows open. They were from Minnesota, they said Anchorage was nothing compared to back home.

[barbtries]

120. wow

southern ca born and raised. minnesota, wisconsin, the dakotas, etc, all places i would not consider moving to. just too cold. i'm in NC now and for the past year, and while it gets colder here than it ever did back home (i'm from los angeles), it's mild enough that i can take it.

[d_b]

136. Anchorage isn't that bad.

Fairbanks is really bad. And once you get within the arctic circle you're fucked.

[acmavm]

140. Oh yeah, Fairbanks is something else. I never understood those

native Alaskans who lived up around Pt. Barrow. The must be born with antifreeze in the old bloodstream.

[d_b]

143. way too hardcore for me

south central is cold enough.

[MineralMan]

15. Yup!

That's my best guess, too. Can't have the VP on Prozac, doncha know. Wouldn't be prudent to reveal that information at this juncture. Nope, not prudent.

The lady's just a little too happy and more than a little dingy. Those meds will to that to ya, sometimes. }(

[Texas Mom]

49. That's my best guess

Psychotrophic meds.

[merci_me]

90. My guess too

and IF after age 40 and on a high profile career, IF she does have a special needs baby, medication for depression is very likely.

[Laurab]

163. Or another psychiatric medication or two.

I have a friend who had a baby 6 years after her tubes were tied - so it CAN happen, and I don't believe that's what it is - I'm guessing it's psychiatric medications - she strikes me as someone who could have a LOT of problems in that area. Trig very well could be hers, but I think they took care of the records on that, and having her tubes tied or not makes no difference.

[eridani]

196. In Alaska, with 6 month nights, that would be no big deal n/t

[Haole Girl]

17. Palin and McSame think they can live by a different set of rules

They would never leave it alone if Obama or Biden tried that.

[mac56]

20. Of course they think that.

They're Republicans, after all.

"These silly rules don't apply to me..."

[bowens43]

19. The prop baby isn't hers. n/t

[fourvahl]

21. embarressing cosmetic surgery?

I doubt that the baby with down syndrome is not hers. It has to be something else.. besides daughter is pregnant now and it typically takes 6 months in order to get pregnant again.

Having a child with down syndrome increases considerably after 35.

I am going with cosmetic surgery..

[Celebration]

34. I agree with this

Also, I don't think McCain wanted her to release her medical records, because he didn't have much of a "release" and didn't want to be shown up.

[yardwork]

35. We don't know that her daughter is pregnant now - has anyone seen Bristol lately?

The last time we saw Bristol, she could have been pregnant or she could have been a nursing mother of an infant.

Even if Bristol is pregnant again, it does not "typically" take six months to get pregnant again. Can happen within a month.

It's true that the risk of having a Down Syndrome baby increases with age, but it's not unheard of for teenage moms to have them as well. Also, do we know for sure that Trig has Down Syndrome? Again, no evidence except Sarah Palin's word.

[Mira]

44. Did not McClueless refer to the baby as Autistic in one of the debates?

[Bette Noir]

68. Yeah, but that's because he's an ignorant slut.

Autism is fashionable this year, so he wanted to get on the bandwagon.

[lizzieforkerry]

86. No, he was referring to Palin's nephew nt

[yardwork]

178. Yes, he did. But it's impossible to diagnose an infant with autism.

[nbsmom]

165. Baby is probably Bristol's

Probably not Down's, but Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (I understand the manifestation can be very similar.) And yes, Bristol the last time I saw her looked like nursing mom losing baby weight, not someone who's now -- what? -- seven or eight months pregnant.

[yardwork]

179. I've wondered about Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, too. Bristol supposedly like her drugs and alcohol.

[nbsmom]

166. Baby is probably Bristol's

Probably not Down's, but Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (I understand the manifestation can be very similar.) And yes, Bristol the last time I saw her looked like nursing mom losing baby weight, not someone who's now -- what? -- seven or eight months pregnant.

[MrsBrady]

174. ever seen a young man kiss someone else's baby?

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2008/09/trig-palin-bristol-palin-levi-johnston/

to the men: when you were a young man, if you were marrying your knocked up girlfriend...
would you kiss your girlfriend's brother?

or is this ALREADY your son?

[ingac70]

66. 6 months to get preggers again?

I know far too many women who have had babies 9 months to 1 year apart to believe that.

[Bette Noir]

70. Probably because they believed that old wives tale about it taking

six months to get pregnant again.

[lizzieforkerry]

84. Tell that to my three friends

with babies 10 months apart!

[truthisfreedom]

85. Has anyone seen the daughter with anything more than post-pregnancy fat? She's not pregnant.

She's a fraud. They're both frauds.

[eagertolearn]

91. If she wasn't nursing she could get pregnant right away. My guess is that Bristols

current baby is due in Feb. and that she got pregnant again a month after delivery of Trig. I remember seeing that Sarah had an idea that she was being looked at for the VP position in Jan or Feb and probably soon found out about Bristols pregnancy. Remember she didn't announce she was pregnant until about 7 weeks before delivery which means the plans fell into place right after the VP aknowledgement. What looks better having a 16 yo preg. out of wedlock or you having a baby with downs and deciding to keep it. At this point this doen't really matter because this was her first big lie and she has said many more since. We need to let her alone and let her go back to her life in Alaska and with her family. I hope this doesn't ruin her life when she goes back to Alaska. This whole thing is McCain and the GOP's fault. They knew her life would be torn apart and they did it for their own salvation. It's sad what people will do in the name of politics.

[IntravenousDemilo]

124. You know, in England...

"Bristols" is slang for breasts. "Cor, look at the bristols on that one, eh?"

So essentially, she named her daughter "Tit".

[awoke_in_2003]

198. Screw her life in Alaska...

she made her bed, and she will have to lie in it. Anyone who charges rape victims for their crime kit deserves to have their political career crushed, and to be ridiculed on a personal level.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

106. Not really

When I was in the hospital having my first son, there was a woman giving birth who had a 10 month old baby at home.
Teenagers can and do have Down Syndrome babies.
I think the baby belongs to her second daughter. Pillow or whatever they called her.

[Glenda]

205. Pillow!

:rofl:

I can't keep their names straight either

[louis-t]

118. Wait ,"6 months to get pregnant"?

Sorry, you're wrong. My brother and I are 11 months apart.

[clear eye]

138. Only if the new mother is nursing. otherwise

you can get pregnant again pretty quickly.

[Dervill Crow]

204. Many women who think it takes six months to get pregnant after childbirth are in for a rude surprise

. . . my husband and his sister are 10 months apart.

My mother-in-law has a sampler on her wall that says, "I should have danced all night."

:rofl: - Those crazy Catholics, back in the 1950s.

[samplegirl]

23. Geez, Gosh a Moose ate them!

Palin has put herself in the pickle. And she will be bringing back the suspicion from the public to whether her son Trig is hers. By using the stall tactic with the media on getting her medical records, it will just grow much greater talks of the Sarah-Trig-Bristol triangle rumors

[ryanmuegge]

31. I don't blame her. In a couple years, she can reveal whatever it is she's hiding to promote a book

get her name out in the press again and cash in big-time.

[Wizard777]

32. I think she's escaped from a mental institution in the lower 48.

:shrug: It's gotta be something really bad like that.

[L. Coyote]

36. I'm disapointed, to say the least.

I wanted to know which personality was from Fargo! :rofl:

[Ian David]

33. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Willow was the baby's real mother. n/t

[WarbirdForObama]

37. It's because Grandma Sarah

Doesn't want to have to deal with all that First Ammendment Infringing questions about her Grandson Trigger, and all the Drugs/Alcohol that Trigger's REAL Mother did while she was preggers.

[earth mom]

38. She's hiding something. Probably that the baby isn't hers. nt

[Sarah Ibarruri]

39. She was never pregnant with TRIG, that's why. She lied to protect her daughter's FIRST pregnancy

That's the only reason.

[Mira]

48. I have never ever heard of a woman who's water broke to go

anywhere other than to a hospital or a midwife. It happened to my mother when she was pregnant with me - immediately she was hospitalized.
I have always found the trip back to Alaska utterly suspicious

Possible Reason one: she really was not pregnant, and faking it
Possible and way darker reason two: she knew she had a mongoloid baby and was purposely endangering its life, not being "able" to have an abortion.

[eagertolearn]

130. I agree! Plus the risk of infection is greater after the water breaks.

Usually the nurses try to break your water to get the delivery going faster. With my first I didn't let them (and the labor went on for hours!) but when they came in with the needle to break the water with my second I let them and the delivery went very fast. So you are right that is what totally got my suspisions going along with Bristol being out of school with Mono for 5 months, Sarah Palins interview supposedly a few weeks before her delivery and she was walking fast to her office, talking and not even breathing like a pregnant woman. Plus she did not look pregnant and her daughter in a family photo sometime before Trig was born looked pregnant. Alot of that info conveniently dissapeared on the when questions started to arise but I saw a lot of stuff on the internet the few days after her spot as VP was announced.

[get the red out]

180. Good point

I knew a woman at work who only made it to the entrance of the hospital before her third child was born right there, they couldn't even get her into the lobby. And she was traveling across town to the hospital for the birth after her water broke, not across country. She didn't waste any time getting to the hospital either and the baby still didn't wait.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

209. Oh you bet she was faking it. But she sees no prob between being an evangelical

and a perennial liar. She's a psycho.

[sui generis]

41. she's a moose hunting invertebrate nata-vore

baby eating snail, with a cloaca. Not that there's anything wrong with being non species specific, but the baby eating, and using your asshole to talk out of . . .also if it compels you to lie through your teeth, subscribe to witch-hunting witch-doctors, wear your hair up in a sneech bun, and shoot wild animals from a helicopter, I would probably keep it off my medical record too.

:P

[Janice325]

101. OUCH!!

sui generis, that is the most concise, articulate and cutting description of Sarah Palin I've read yet. :rofl:
It's brilliant!!! I salute you.

[Grinchie]

186. Cloaca! ROTFL!

Priceless choice of words Sui!

[BrklynLiberal]

200. That was superb!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[George II]

43. Most likely to cover the fact that "Trig" is not hers, but her daughter's

[RayStar]

144. Trig

I ask why. The truth would have been a safer choice.

[lies and propaganda]

47. How long does it take to FAKE a birth certificate?

You would think the First Dude was a document forger as well, he does every other job in Alaska.

[idahoman]

75. I give up....

How long?

[lies and propaganda]

128. looks like its at least two weeks and counting..

and the clock is running out ;0

[Javaman]

50. I bet she had and abortion when she was miss beauty queen. nt

[hisownpetard]

52. I knew when she said she'd comply that it was never gonna happen. That woman

is incapable of telling the truth.

And ya know what? Because of that, I think I'm not gonna vote for her!












Hahaaa.

[Mira]

53. Asking seriously : HOW does she get away with it?

[Steelworker In OH]

60. Shes a FAR right wing republician

and they don't question their leaders like the rest of us decent folks do. She can get away with just about anything and her faithful right wingers ill make up excuses for her or just roll along with it. Sheep, nothing but a bunch of Baaaa'ing sheep.
Oh there another great pun, The right wing sheep's like her cause she shoots wolves from helicopters...

[redqueen]

69. What about the press, though? (nt)

[bdamomma]

54. oh geez, we do not need this woman near the WH.

so deceiving and dishonest she is. Is the media reporting on this??? Silly question probably NO.

[CottonBear]

55. She could have had an abortion or gotten an STD or taken psychological medication.

I suppose having had an abortion would destroy her credibility with the wingnut crowd.

[glinda]

58. Todd is not the father

Or all of the above or combinations of.

[prostock69]

119. Could be the business partner of Todd's....

that had his divorce papers sealed right after the rumors of her and him having an affair.

[glinda]

152. YUP!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

61. I can't understand why Republicans aren't more concerned over this

The reason we view medical records of our presidential hopefuls is to make sure they're healthy enough to preform the job. If I were a Republican voter right now, I'd be curious if she's trying to hide a medical condition that could affect her ability to be VP.

[desktop]

64. You assume to much

Most Republicans don't think logically or rationally. They think in agenda driven terms.

[frogcycle]

72. oh come on

to all the conspiracy theorists upthread: if there WERE such a big dark secret, she would never have said she was going to release the records. More likely its just that mccain didn't want to be shown up over his non-release dog and pony show

[truthisfreedom]

74. She's a liar. She said she'd release them, and didn't. SHE'S A FUCKING LIAR.

Screw Sarah Palin.

[frogcycle]

92. not my point

bitch at her for her doubletalk all you want - I agree.

That does not mean necessarily there is a deep dark secret. All this speculation is unseemly. Reads like freeperville.

[LiberalLovinLug]

127. Saying she will release and doing so are 2 different things

If there is some dark secret to be found in her medical records it would make political sense to stall until after the election is over.

If she loses, no one will care

If she wins, its too late. She will hope to ride it out. Whatever the scandal it reveals will be dwarfed by the Big Upset story, (not to mention the thousands of pro-democracy Americans in the streets demanding a fair vote).

[KalicoKitty]

73. What is she afraid of?

That the records will show she did NOT hav a baby in April?

[underpants]

87. S.T.D.s???

Bipolar?

[Gormy Cuss]

76. While it may be fun to speculate, one thing is certain: she lied.

It's obvious now that there was no intention to release the records. Whether it's because Palin wants to protect her privacy or because there is evidence of a physical or mental illness that would impede her ability to serve is now irrelevant. She agreed to release some records, has stalled to the point where they won't be a factor in the current campaign.

She's a liar.

[marmar]

79. I sense some Baby Momma Drama.....

:think:

[Lasher]

82. I just emailed this article to my GOP email friends.

I made no mention of all the emails I have received, asserting that Obama has been hiding his medical records because he was born on Krypton and is not a real earthling. Etc etc etc etc.

[OwnedByFerrets]

93. So, as we all know, SHE IS A LIAR!!!!

Do you want more LIARS in the whitehouse??

[Alter Ego]

94. "Palin campaign"

I was under the impression that she was the Vice Presidential nominee for the Republican Party.

[Dennis Donovan]

97. She herself said last week that she and McCain have two seperate "camps..."

[BrightKnight]

96. Any Government security clearance requires medical records release. - n/t

[redirish28]

100. Watch them release it around 6pm eastern time. When people won't hear

the news so much.

[TrogL]

102. STD's

[WA98296]

104. What is Sarah hiding?

[Joe Collins]

108. I hope she doesn't

Damn, I hope Palin doesn't release them. I can't stomach the idea of reading all the media exploiting stories about her OB/GYN records. Barf and puke!! She is the first "non-male" candidate for a long time and I surely do NOT want to read all her medical stuff. Too late anyway . . just like too late for Obama to release his college records or Illinois Senate records. We vote with what we have now. We go with what we got.

[sellitman]

190. You want a double standard for her because she is female?

ALL the other candidates have released their records.

She said she would do so before the election.

She obviously is a liar.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

109. Hopefully

after tomorrow this story will be meaningless.

[smb]

110. She Lied? I Am Shocked, SHOCKED!!

[orleans]

111. liar liar--she's a fucking liar. n/t

[Gman]

113. the Palin Campaign?? Not the McCain/Palin Campaign

this has increasingly been the terminology for the last few days. I do not ever remember any campaign ticket, as far back as I can remember including Kennedy/Johnson & Nixon/Lodge in 1960, that has ever referred to itself in terminology of two separate campaigns.

This is symptomatic of the McCain/Palin ticket having literally split apart. McCain never had a chance once he tied tails with the right wing whack jobs. They have literally hung him out to dry now and they are looking forward to nominating Palin in 2012.

[DirtyDawg]

116. She's saving it all for her book...

...the one somebody's gonna write for her as prelude to her '12 run. It'll sorta be like Bush gettin' religion, cause as a 'born againer' she will be able to appeal her 'base' that all she was trying to do is save her daughter the embarrassment of the unmarried baby thing.

[valerief]

122. Satan gave her the clap.

That, or more likely, the new kid ain't hers. No believes it is anyway.

When is her teen girl gonna have that make-believe miscarriage for her fake pregnancy?

Oh, and S.P. is nuts and takes Jesus pills, too, but that's not news.

[Name removed]

123. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[complain jane]

125. Why isn't this in the msm?? WTF?

[NoodleyAppendage]

126. She doesn't want pictures of her brain scan known to the public.

[RayStar]

146. Mental issues

I think it may be depression or some other mental issue. Plus the last child she carried is Piper.

[hay rick]

150. Air brained theory.

Great picture

[ailsagirl]

133. At the very least, you have to say there's something there she

doesn't want us to see. Certainly doesn't make us conspiracy theorists!! :eyes:

[Bette Noir]

134. You know, as amusing as it is to speculate about what embarrassing information

is hidden in her medical records, they're none of our business. It really shouldn't concern us, whether she's Trig's mother or grandmother, or whether she has had an abortion or an STD.

It is interesting, though, that she's going to the mat to protect her right to privacy, when she intends to strip it from the rest of us.

In sum, she's free to withhold her medical records-- and we're doubly free to vote for the other guy.

[valerief]

155. And I guess even though she promised them, she's got the right to change her mind.

Being a woman and all.

[SpiralHawk]

135. America has no need for MORE MORE MORE republicon occultism

The republicons have hidden everything from Americans, the antithesis of good government.

[sellitman]

147. Sure looks suspicious.

Things that make you go...




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Jed Dilligan]

148. Abortion, plastic surgery, or drug/alcohol rehab are my guesses.

Maybe a little of all three.

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

149. who IS, Sarah Palin?

[Gin]

151. her friend is her doctor....they can produce anything they want and we will never know the

truth.........I think Trig is not hers...but that's my humble opinion

[osmium]

154. She's not who you think she is...

She's not simply 'visiting.'

'The Base' has spoken. The mothership waits in geosychronous orbit ready to change all votes for the true alien candidate.*

Astrotheology for all humans! Resistance is futile!

*How do you think that she can see Russia from AK? It's easy for a Zebba Canubian.

[valerief]

156. Ha! Astrotheology. Is that an astrotheological sign for each apostle?

I wanna be under the sign of Judas!

[osmium]

164. Sure..

Ha! Astrotheology. Is that an astrotheological sign for each apostle?

You Betcha!

I wanna be under the sign of Judas!

One Judas Iscariot assignment for Val F.

__________________________________________

If I may be serious for but a moment..there is some pretty compelling evidence that X-tianity as well as most(all?) of the world's current religions grew out of Pagan worship of the 'Sun'(Son).

12 Signs, 12 Apostles, etc.

I am certainly unqualified to make any further pronouncements about theism or astrology, as I am a practicer of neither.

__________________________________________

Thanks for playing, Val!

Now back to our thread in progress..;)

[Grinchie]

189. Don't forget 12 months, and 4 seasons...

Human civilization has been devastated many times, yet the simple truth that we rely on the Sun, and revolve about it during a 12 month cycle persist in religious dogma.

The persistent fact of Nature is called by many names, but it exists in all religions, current and antiquated.

Some may say the Rapture is somewhat based on genetic memory of past cataclysmic upheavals of the Earth, and there is no reason to doubt it.

Mayans predict 2012 as the big change, and strangely enough, the predictions of the Mayan Calendar are frightengly similar to today's event.

[Dukkha]

153. records had surgical removal of "666" birthmark on scalp

[madhawk]

169. 666

you know i hate to break your bubble, but 666 is not the sign of the devil. it is a majick number. the fucking christians turned that number around to severe their oun purposes. i know i am a witch, a shaman. so educate yourselves, and stop being led by Christan's. also if you don't inform the PEOPLE they will make up their own story, like you all just did. (i am not making judgment on that one, it's the way it is.)
long live freedom.
sunhawk

[onlyadream]

158. I think Trig is hers...

Trig is downs baby and Palin isin her 40's - the age where downs is like a 1:18 chance, so that alone is some good evidence. Most likely, she was on some kind of med or something that she doesn't want out there.

[Danieljay]

159. i figure its breast enhancement, cosmetic surgery stuff... who knows. n/t

[GinaMaria]

168. Higher probability with teen mothers too.

Either way, it is not "evidence"

[lparsons]

160. Could it be?

The return of the Karl Rove playbook? I seem to recall that after Darth Cheney had miraculously decided that he was the one most qualified to be veep for Shrub Jr., he refused to release his own medical records as well.

[AlbertCat]

161. Oh for crying out loud

ZZZZZZzzzzzz....who cares at this point? If they win (Yikes!) then I'll be interested all over again.

[d_b]

162. her dad is her uncle n/t

[JBoy]

167. The public will have no choice but to assume the worst.

That there are absolutely no health issues that would prevent her from taking over from John McCain.

[David Zephyr]

170. Lyin' Palin.

What a dishonest woman she has shown herself to be.

[happygoluckytoyou]

171. the only transparent thing about PALIN... the CLEAR and present danger she is to those around her

[GinaMaria]

172. Why isn't the media calling her out on this? Why aren't they calling

her a liar? Oh right... the "liberal elite" media is under right wing corporate control!

[newtothegame]

177. Boy I ever run for public office I'm glad I'm a guy...

I love you guys but I would hate to be a female candidate knowing these things people are saying about my "possible" medical background.

[RayStar]

194. Just say no

If she knew what happens when you accept a nod, with all of the baggage she carries, she would have turned it down.

[Norrin Radd]

182. She has lycanthropy.

Didn't want it getting out, as she hates her kind.

[Grinchie]

191. She's a Werepig!

[RayStar]

195. Werewolf

Now this is going over the top. I had to google lycanthropy. OUCH

[Norrin Radd]

201. I was joking.

[GalleryGod]

215. " Lycanthropy!?! In this day and age ! " *

* A quote from the first few minutes of "Curse of the Werewolf" !:rofl:

[Norrin Radd]

219. .

:toast:

[City Lights]

184. mccain said from the beginning that her records would not be released

until after the election. She flat-out lied to Brian Williams. She says what she needs to say in any given situation with no regard for the truth. She's a standard issue Republican liar.

[Imagevision]

187. Obviously she has something to hide, rehab - drugs/alcohol/mental...?

[BrklynLiberal]

199. This kind of reaction certainly makes it look like she has SOMETHING to hide...

[ACTION BASTARD]

206. They're hiding her half Mexican co joined twin's head. Y'know the one with

Tourette syndrome.

[durtee librul]

207. Maybe, just MAYBE, Sarah isn't a woman after all.....?

[triguy46]

208. The only people who will ever see the complete record....

are insurance companies if she applies for health insurance or life insurance. By God, they will turn over every stone, look in every corner, nook, cranny to find some reason NOT to cover something. Much like "The Rainmaker", they do it brashly, boldly, confidently that an individual has neither the time or money to fight them.

[AKing]

211. Records released per CNN 360 No report yet as to what they contain

[LisaL]

212. Records released at night before the election?

:wtf:

[roody]

213. My cousin got pregnant after a tubal ligation! Oops.

The baby is a lovely grown man now.

[customerserviceguy]

216. There have been far too many people digging for far too long

and surely the tabloids would have been willing to write a fat check if they could come up with even a shred of evidence that Trig is Bristol's baby.

Chances are, there's either an abortion that was done prior to the Miss Alaska pageant (probably would have disqualified her, that whole "beauty contest for vestal virgins" thing), or more likely, she had her tubes tied after Trig's birth, not wanting to take the chance of having another Down Syndrome child.

The latter would have been a continuing sin in the eyes of the fundies. An old abortion is something she could have done a Jimmy Swaggert tearful confession on, the Jaysus freaks love to see someone in repent mode.

[passy]

217. Or more likely...

"or more likely, she had her tubes tied after Trig's birth" you meant to say before Trig's birth right?

[customerserviceguy]

220. No

I find it difficult to believe that a sixteen-year old would conceive a Down Syndrome child in this situation. I find it essentially impossible to believe that everybody connected with such a substitution of the mother (who is clearly NOT an unknown) has kept complete silence for the last few months, and that this was done far in advance of anyone (even McLame) knowing that she would be chosen for the VP slot.

I understand all of the kidding about this, and I've laughed at the Palin pregnancy jokes and political cartoons, but the simplest explanation is often the most accurate. We have no Sarah Palin medical records, a tubal after Trig that the fundies would abandon her over is the most reasonable explanation to me.