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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:14 AM Original message |
Israel cautions against Obama dialogue with Iran |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm so sick of this... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Well the good news is something like 78% of American Jewish voters backed Obama because they AGREE.. |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
114. Dictating their threats on us as always. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. First thing that needs to be made clear is that nothing is ever permanent. |
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methinks2 (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
131. I agree |
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thraxis (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
132. This ignoring them over the years has really worked hasn't it? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. And this rogue state has any pull here in the US because... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. ...they are very good at "message control" |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. That's always been my wonder! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
82. Votes, both Jewish and, lately, evangelical as well. that is a significant voting bloc. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
83. Deep pockets? |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. weakness is when you... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
80. What Dennis4868 said. this should not have to be about bashing |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Absolutely |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Your suspicions are irrelevant. |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. Tell her to mind her own fucking business and stay out of our foreign policy. Period. rec'd |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. Hey walfare queen |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. AIPAC will need more money. |
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NOW tense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. Thanks for the input Ms. Livni. I think we might try something |
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DemFromMem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. and the bashing resumes |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I dont see any one being 'anti-Israel'... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I agree- but I do think there should always be a seat for them. If they choose to take it... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. you are if you ever criticize Israel |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I dont see any "best Republican tradition" , either...eom |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. I don't see any comments being "anti-Israel" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
106. No, but implying that it controls the USA is anti-Israel. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. I don't know what thread you're basing those comments on, but it isn't this one. |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. BS - was her opinion sought? No..that isn't how this has worked before and it isn't how it is now |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Being anti-Israeli POLICY is not being anti-Israel. I'll tell you what the best Republican tradition |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
11. There sure are a lot of stories today about people warning Obama not to do anything rash. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
81. I have a feeling that "warning" Obama is not going to go over big with Obama. |
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momrois (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. Time for Israel to shut up |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. Dear Israel, |
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Johnnyheadstone (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
14. Here is an idea... |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
15. Sometimes Israel reminds me |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. Who holds the purse strings Israel? |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. Sounds like Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni stands against America. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. oh crap, what the hell is wrong with these people |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. Hmm Does Israel really run this country? Maybe we can turn the page and try it ourselves. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. Shouldn't that read "Likud cautions against Obama dialogue with Iran"? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Actually, Livni's party is Kadima- not like there's any real difference, unfortunately. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
25. Israel(i hawks) Are Worried That We Won't Attack Iran When They Tell Us To |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
26. Hopefully President Obama will tell Israel to STFU |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. In complete agreement! |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. In your view |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Read "Shattered Dreams" By Charles Enderlin |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Not according to Pres. Clinton |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. And Dennis Ross Really Had People Going With That Eye-Rack War |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Clinton has backed up everything in Ross's book. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. How many times have the Palestinians "been offered a state"? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. **cricketts** from an extremely biased individual |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Simply put, yet brilliant! |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. I Seriously Doubt That |
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curse of greyface (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. Isreal should STFU. that said can we add Isreal as a state when we add D.C.? nt |
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curse of greyface (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. DUPE |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. Maybe Obama will do the right thing and cease assistance with Israel which will reduce tension in |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. Livni should step down. Sometimes folks are their own worst enemies. nt |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
87. You do know who would almost certainly become PM if she did step down? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Does it change my point? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #92 |
105. So what do you WANT to happen in Israel? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. I want a fair election, what more could I want? nt |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. So do I. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. You are right |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. A "shift to dialogue -- is liable to be interpreted as weakness" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
107. good examples |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Hopefully the days of Israel wagging its American Dog are over |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. How about aid to Egypt and the Palestinians? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. They provoke children into throwing rocks, then they spray them with machine gun fire |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm asking for real evidence |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. You'll only get more propaganda. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
77. Shut it all down. |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R How dare they think that the United States exists to be lectured and |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
48. First China warns Obama about Taiwan, now this... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Where is that thread? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Heard it on the BBC this morning |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Thanks. Hadn't heard that and didn't know if there was a thread on it. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Obama wins the election just two days ago... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. And just wait, there will be a host of countries doing the same thing. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Agreed. But I just thought these countries might wait more than a day or two... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. But they didn't. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Hugo stated that Obama's win would be positive for US/Venezula relations... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Can't speak for China... |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Read the article. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. You read the article, yet you see things not there. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. "Israel cautions against Obama dialogue with Iran" --says it all for me. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Of course it does. Much like many others here. |
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sugapablo (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Don't bother... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #64 |
108. Lula in Brazil has already suggested that Obama should end the embargo on Cuba |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. I've never understood the embargo, especially now. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I agree with you.. |
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zelta gaisma (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. ok I get Israel is an ally but |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. I use skin products with dead sea salt in it. Really good stuff |
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zelta gaisma (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. I cook with dead sea salt :P but seriously... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. What's the harm in dialogue? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Well, they pretty much say it point blank: They're afriad it'll make them look weak. |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. Shoot first; ask questions later; Lebanon's near annihilatation |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. We'll talk to anyone we damn well feel like. Maybe we'll save you from getting nuked. |
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Proud of my country (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. No, I think I'll leave it to Rahm Emanuel, Obama's New Chief of Staff |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Yes, and he was also instrumental in staging the now-famous handshake between Arafat... |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
74. Israel, Russia, Chavez et al need to cool it for a while. Obama is not YET the President. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. Good point - but unfortunately they are all embroiled in their own internal political battles |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. You are claiming knowledge of Livni's motivations |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Do you know her? Have you spoken to her? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Neither do I claim to know her motives which you did |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. What is THE ISRAELI LOBBY? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. I edited my comment earlier. It wasn't fair of me to say |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. self-delete (dupe) |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Thanks for that. |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
76. I'm sick of Irael's arrogance, or rather that of their leaders/spoke-persons. |
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Midwest_Doc (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
79. What Else Does Israel Want? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #79 |
88. They have no representation in the US Senate. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. BS. The Israel lobby is extremely over powerful in US politics |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
104. HOW can Israel be that influential on American politics? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. The problem with your argument is that I ask the same questions |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #104 |
127. I'm sure you've heard of the controversial book that came out last year, |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. What a load of shit! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
89. It might indeed be better if other countries waited at least until Obama took office before |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. LeftishBrit, I am not entirely against some of your arguments |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. I agree on all this. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
97. FUCK ISREAL |
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Poseidan (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
98. no thank you |
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fourvahl (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
101. Isreal will have to |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
117. I wonder how our relationship with Israel might shift IF we became more energy independent? |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
123. STFU Israel! |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
124. Israel has a seat in Baracks cabnet 9 al Jazeera ) |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
125. I predict that very,very little will change in the mutually harmful US-Israeli relationship |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. I, also, predict, little, very, very, little will change in the idiotic knee-jerking... |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Partisan as ever, my friend? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Sure, why not? |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
129. A foreign country dictates US foreign policy publicly. LIEberman for Sec of State to appease Isreal. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. He did what he had to do to get elected. Appointing Rahm was.... |
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Mesteryo (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
134. Israel has a right to express their opinion.. |
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